HCEnc framerate mismatch...

[michcio]

hi!
I got a .avi file with framerates : 23.976 (NTSC avi) which I want to convert to .m2v. But when I input my .avs file into HCEnc I got an ERROR message in the bottom panel where it's written :

use pulldown for DVD compilance, WARNING, resolution/frame rate mismatch

and now if I check in the 3:2 pulldown radio button I got a new message:

pulldown turned on, set flags for 23.976 --> 29.97 fps, interlaced is disabled, if your score is interlaced please de-interlence it first, if input rate is not equal to 23.976, setting is ignored.

and if I instead of checking the 3:2 pulldown button press "make DVD compilant" button I got a different error message instead:

possible non-DVD compilant settings fixed, WARNING, resolution NOT DVD-COMPILANT, WARNING, resolution/frame rate mismatch

I made my .avs file in FitCD in NTSC settings:
I didn't check the PAL button and my Destination is set to : 704x480

If I don't care about this warnings and create my MPEG file and then try to make a DVD in GfD with that file I got an error while creating it:

Rejected sp r/fr 1.m2v

here is more info about my .avi file:
from GSpot:

AUDIO:
Codec: 0x0055 MPEG-1 Layer 3
Info: 48000Hz  116 kb/s tot , Joint Stereo 

VIDEO:
Codec: XVID
Name: XviD Dev ver. 11-Jun-03

Pic/s: 23.976
Frames/s: 23.976

pic (w h) : 624 x 464

please help!

glad for answers!

michcio

[FulciLives]

Thank you for the GSpot info as that info is handy but can you also post your AviSynth AVS script as well because without that it is hard to say exactly what is wrong.

The only thing that I can think of as of now is that I always do 720x480 or 720x576 but never 704x480 nor 704x576 and although both 720 and 704 are DVD compliant it could be that HCenc only likes 720 and not 704.

This is only a guess based on the limited information available to me and the fact that I always use a width of 720 when using HCenc and have never encountered the type of errors you are currently getting.

So go back and create a new AViSynth AVS script with FitCD but use 720 as your width and see how that works or use your existing script but add 8 pixels of black to either side (with the AddBorders() command) to make it 720.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[jagabo]

I tried a 704x480 file at 23.976 fps and didn't get any complaints from HCGui. Obviously, I had to enable 3:2 pulldown and set the frame type to progressive. I don't know how far off of 23.976 fps (24000/1001 to be exact) the frame rate has to be before it would complain.

[michcio]

The only thing that I can think of as of now is that I always do 720x480 or 720x576 but never 704x480 nor 704x576 and although both 720 and 704 are DVD compliant it could be that HCenc only likes 720 and not 704.

thank you for answering so fast FulciLives and jagabo!! =)

ah I change the width to 720 instead of 704 and the DVD type to 740 also (instead of DVD702 I choose DVD740) and then HCEnc opened my .avs without any errors ..thanks for that tip FulicLives!!

and here is now my new .avs file:

# -= AviSynth v2.5.7.0 script by FitCD v1.2.8 =-
AVISource("MyFile.avi")
BicubicResize(720,480,0,0.6,0,4,624,456)
#Trim(0,64986).FadeOut(150)

and here is the old .avs that gave me my error:

# -= AviSynth v2.5.7.0 script by FitCD v1.2.8 =-
AVISource("MyFile.avi")
BicubicResize(704,480,0,0.6,2,0,620,464)
#Trim(0,64986).FadeOut(150)

I tried a 704x480 file at 23.976 fps and didn't get any complaints from HCGui. Obviously, I had to enable 3:2 pulldown and set the frame type to progressive. I don't know how far off of 23.976 fps (24000/1001 to be exact) the frame rate has to be before it would complain.

hm I have as well always been abel to encode this kind of files without any problems in HCEnc...for example the "old .avs code" I use for this file while used on a simular one don't give me any errors at all :S that's really weird. Where do you set the frame type to progressive in HCEnc?

once again thank you for good response

michcio

P.S. I'll soon test to create a DVD in GfD and see if my new .m2v file works =)

[jagabo]

Where do you set the frame type to progressive in HCEnc?

Seetings 1 tab, top left. It's set automatically (for a 23.976 fps source) when you press the Make DVD Compliant button on the Main tab.

[michcio]

Where do you set the frame type to progressive in HCEnc?

Seetings 1 tab, top left. It's set automatically (for a 23.976 fps source) when you press the Make DVD Compliant button on the Main tab.

ah ok yeah I can see that it' set to progressive there...btw I have now made a new project in GfD with my .m2v (from the new .avs) and it work just fine! So my problem is solved I think!!

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!

cheers

michcio

[FulciLives]

Seems strange ... one says 704 width doesn't work and the other says it does work.

What version(s) are you two using? The newest? The newest version is v0.23 and I've used it a few times now and I wonder if this version just isn't "screwy" somehow?

For instance I never had this problem before but when using v0.23 the M2V will not load into TMGEnc DVD Author but this is only some of the time. Other times it loads A-OK. When it won't load the only thing that "fixes" the problem is to author with MUXMAN then import the MUXMAN output into TMPGEnc DVD Author and BINGO it works. Yet I never had such an issue with the older versions including the v0.22 version.

Weird !?!?!?!

I might just go back to v0.22

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[michcio]

yeah that's really weird

well I'm using v. 0.23 as well and I had never have any trubbles on vers. 0.22...

maybe it's like you say that 0.23 got some bugg.

[jagabo]

I have 0.23 as well.