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    Does anybody know how to copy the macrovision software off DVD's? I want to be able to take the program and place it on my own DVD'S. Why would I want to?, because I just want the program that allows me to copy protect my own DVD's without paying for the crap.
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    You can't. Don't ask. Can't be done.

    Also, macrovision only protects from analogue copying, and will not and cannot protect you from copying on a PC.

    The copy protection scheme that is supposed to stop PC copying is called CSS, and can only be applied to pressed discs, not burned discs.

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  3. There is no Macrovision software on DVDs. There is only a flag that tells the DVD player to apply macrovision "errors" to the analog video as it plays the DVD. This only prevents VCRs from copying via analog connections. You can set this flag if you want.

    As guns1inger points out, CSS is the encryption used on DVDs. In theory, you could CSS encode your video but there is no way to write the CSS decryption key to burnable media (the key resides in a area that can't be burned). So no DVD player would be able to play your encrypted video.
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    adamrose - I'm going to be blunt. If your videos are so precious that they MUST be copy protected, you need to pay for professional pressing. A professional pressing plant can encode them with CSS. Do note that ALL DVDs can be ripped and copied no matter what you do. Yes, CSS is enough to stop a lot of people, but if you are hoping to prevent teenagers or tech savvy people from copying your discs, you are wasting your time. If you are some kind of professional photographer and your business model depends on nobody being able to make copies, you should seriously consider whether that's really a wise idea or not. We get posts here all the time from people with similar concerns to yours. Some of them are just dumbasses who want to copy protect DVDs of their stupid kid playing t-ball because they are morons who honestly believe that the entire world wants to see this crap. Yes, we really do get these kind of people here. Others are professional photographers/video guys who, for example, recorded a wedding (or a school play, etc.) to video and want to get fair payment for their work. The last thing they want is to sell one copy of the DVD for 20 dollars and then have the buyer make dozens of copies for relatives and friends and cut them out of the sales. You can get a professional plant to add CSS or you can try to set the Macrovision flag yourself (I have no idea how to do this or what software you would need), but again, anybody who knows what they are doing can rip and copy your DVD with no problems no matter what you do. There are no consumer available programs for adding CSS yourself. If you are looking for something you can do yourself and burn to DVD-/+R discs, you are wasting your time. And do note that if you intend to sell this video that must be copy protected that burning it to DVD-/+R will possibly require you to refund money to angry customers who have old, crappy DVD players that can't play your DVD. The only DVDs that are guaranteed to play in all players are ones that are pressed.

    If you believe in miracles, you can look at the "Authoring (DVD)" forum and there's a sticky near the top about protecting your own videos. Some guy in Poland claimed to have a way that was very very difficult to defeat, but even he admitted that his method could be defeated. ALL methods can be beaten. Even Hollywood studios, who have a lot more interest than you do in this subject and more money to throw at it, have failed to come up with a method that can't be overcome.
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    @adamrose I'm going to be candid, the level of personal venom in some responses is typical of many forums (fora?).
    People who fancy themselves as the keepers of the sacred flame or doorman of a snooty country club - a club that has no time for anyone who doesn't measure up to their standards
    These big lads, safely anonymous, feel free to offer insults to people they have never met - they wouldn't have the nerve to say the same things to you in a pub or saloon - never learned the Golden Rule and are not worth responding to.

    "dumbasses" "stupid" "moron"
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    Originally Posted by sambat
    @adamrose I'm going to be candid, the level of personal venom in some responses is typical of many forums (fora?).
    People who fancy themselves as the keepers of the sacred flame or doorman of a snooty country club - a club that has no time for anyone who doesn't measure up to their standards
    These big lads, safely anonymous, feel free to offer insults to people they have never met - they wouldn't have the nerve to say the same things to you in a pub or saloon - never learned the Golden Rule and are not worth responding to.

    "dumbasses" "stupid" "moron"
    It doesn't matter. Obviously you didn't bother to check that this is the OP's very first post.
    Normally that means he/or she will NOT be back because he or she is a troll or a plant
    who is looking for someone to provide them with possible illegal material, activity or information.
    A first poster who correctly spells and knows about "macrovision" but asks a blatantly easy-to-find
    information about macrovision on this here internet deserves to be at LEAST hassled a bit.
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    Originally Posted by hech54
    Originally Posted by sambat
    @adamrose I'm going to be candid, the level of personal venom in some responses is typical of many forums (fora?).
    People who fancy themselves as the keepers of the sacred flame or doorman of a snooty country club - a club that has no time for anyone who doesn't measure up to their standards
    These big lads, safely anonymous, feel free to offer insults to people they have never met - they wouldn't have the nerve to say the same things to you in a pub or saloon - never learned the Golden Rule and are not worth responding to.

    "dumbasses" "stupid" "moron"
    It doesn't matter. Obviously you didn't bother to check that this is the OP's very first post.
    Normally that means he/or she will NOT be back because he or she is a troll or a plant
    who is looking for someone to provide them with possible illegal material, activity or information.
    A first poster who correctly spells and knows about "macrovision" but asks a blatantly easy-to-find
    information about macrovision on this here internet deserves to be at LEAST hassled a bit.
    "Obviously you didn't bother to check that this is the OP's very first post."

    Your crass assumption regarding my perception of the OP is as offensive to me as the spite sprinkled throughout the rest of the thread.
    Common courtesy extended to all is the mark of a functioning human being;acting as arbitrator and passing judgment (on myself and the OP) is the mark of a pretentious prig.If you don't care for a particular thread, refrain from responding - massage your ego in private.Your silence is your revenge.
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    Originally Posted by sambat
    Your crass assumption regarding my perception of the OP is as offensive to me as the spite sprinkled throughout the rest of the thread.
    Common courtesy extended to all is the mark of a functioning human being;acting as arbitrator and passing judgment (on myself and the OP) is the mark of a pretentious prig.If you don't care for a particular thread, refrain from responding - massage your ego in private.Your silence is your revenge.
    Do us all a favor and get an education. It's obvious you are not a newbie
    at video "work"....but you are a relative newbie here and have not seen what we old-timers have seen.
    https://forum.videohelp.com/topic340425.html#1774993
    There are MANY people here concerned about threads like these. We have seen too many
    software creators badgered and harassed TO EXTINCTION(see my signature below) and I
    for one will NOT remain silent about it.
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    sambat - The poster got told what he needed to know. You don't like HOW he was told? Too bad.

    Yes, we do get people who are exactly like I described here all the time. We do get people who honestly believe that a DVD of their kid playing T-ball is just incredibly valuable and must be copy protected. It must! I also took the time to explain that the poster MIGHT have a legitimate need for such (ie. they recorded a wedding) and told them how to do it - pay someone to do it professionally. I even pointed the poster to a thread where this subject has been discussed endlessly and pointed out that someone claimed to have a solution that worked for them, but it still couldn't protect the DVD from copying.

    You don't like the fact that I didn't get all lovey-dovey with them? Tough.
    Yes, certainly I am a "keeper of the flame" and all you say - not. I gave the poster much more helpful info than this inquiry deserves at all. If I got a little snide, well, tough. People who want to copy protect T-ball games deserve it. I see that you're Canuck so just substitute "midget hockey" for "T-ball". The bottom line is that you CANNOT copy protect DVDs - they can ALWAYS be copied. People just don't seem to get that, so I tend to be a little rude to people who ask this thing. Again, I gave the poster a much more detailed answer than this question deserves and if you don't like what I said, that's YOUR problem. Anyway, the original post is asking about an illegal activity (using Macrovision without paying for it) so I'd say that even getting a snide answer with several potentially helpful ideas is better than it deserves. Although if you want to argue that a thief deserves to be treated with respect, I eagerly await your thoughts on that subject.
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    I eagerly await your thoughts on that subject.
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    Originally Posted by sambat
    @adamrose I'm going to be candid, the level of personal venom in some responses is typical of many forums (fora?).
    People who fancy themselves as the keepers of the sacred flame or doorman of a snooty country club - a club that has no time for anyone who doesn't measure up to their standards
    These big lads, safely anonymous, feel free to offer insults to people they have never met - they wouldn't have the nerve to say the same things to you in a pub or saloon - never learned the Golden Rule and are not worth responding to.

    "dumbasses" "stupid" "moron"
    This type of post comes up frequently, a quick search through any of the forums and you will find the answer is am emphatic no you can't. There is a thread already pointed out by someone with some tricks you can use but these will all fail if the person trying to copy the disc has even a medium amount of knowledge. Secondly and even more important even if it was possible to do what the OP wanted providing such information could possibly put the provider of that information AND/OR this site into legal trouble. The OP wanted to know how to a use product that has to be licensed... it's much the same as asking how do I pirate Windows. It's against the forum rules to ask such questions because of the legal troubles they can cause and although the OP may not realize it his post can be deemed as such.

    Having said that since you are more than eager to comment negatively on the facts presented by other posters what's your solution to the OP's question hmm? or are you just trying to stir up shit??
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  13. There have been a lot of topics on people wanting to copy protect videos, have a look at those. Of course, you can't do it 100%, but there are tricks.
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    Originally Posted by handyguy
    Of course, you can't do it 100%, but there are tricks.
    The only trick that even partially claimed to work had one very large flaw : the disc it produced was no longer a compliant DVD Video disc, did not play in all players, and could be copied by anyone who knows how to copy at the image level. In other words, it failed at every level.
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    just pour lemon juice on the DVD, I do this all the time when I make my home movies...this way everything stinks
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    I won't be surprised when they actually do that...
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