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    If I want to have DVD's I burn to be compatible on the most DVD players - both in being able to be played & in playing well - which should be used: DVD+ or DVD-? I would be very interested to see which way the majority go. Thanks.
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    There is no such thing as a "minus" disc. You don't call it "DVD minus R" anymore than you'd call it a "CD minus R" disc.

    It's simply "DVD R" and "DVD plus R".

    At any rate, just use good discs. Verbatim DVD-R or Taiyo Yuden DVD+R

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    If they are modern players, it won't make any difference so long as you use good quality discs. On older players +R is less compatible unless they are +R specific. Bitsetting +R discs can close the gap some way.

    I rarely use +Rs and have never had a playback problem that could be traced to disc format.
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    if your burner can bitset dvd+r to dvd-rom then dvd+r is as compatible as dvd-r. if not stick to dvd-r.
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    heh, popular poll ... my vote makes it 50-50

    it seems more really that you tailor what you use to the hardware it needs to be played on.... the twin format thing is a pain that way.

    personally i use mainly +R as it seems more reliable and more compatible with my own equipment. -R is ok, but seems more failure prone and my DVD player hates it with a passion. +RW vs -RW is more moot; surprisingly the player likes -RW just fine, and it actually seems to be slightly better quality / more resilient than +RW... but it also doesn't have that handy "no reformatting necessary" high-speed overwrite feature
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  6. If you plan to use a dvd recorder, look carefully at the specifications. I found, for example, the LG RC797T can record to both dvd-r/rw and dvd+r/rw but it is easy to edit out commercials with -rw and not all with +rw.
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    odd... you mean it doesn't use VR properly with +RW media? (even though ostensibly they're easier to overwrite)?
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  8. The full test of the edit features are on this thread,

    https://forum.videohelp.com/topic279460.html
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    Hmmm. It does look like it falls down a bit in some other areas too, maybe as a side effect of cramming a vhs player into the same box... no SVideo input, other oddness with +RW vs -RW and RAM, recording modes, etc.

    Interesting and informative thread there, even if OMG REPETITIVE IMAGE OVERLOAD. I was thinking of getting a DVD recorder. I shall check back there first on the details of it... or perhaps search around the site to find similar reviews of PAL / DVB-T hardware... (now all I need is somewhere that hosts reviews of audio equipment along the same lines - i need a new stereo but don't want to be landed with a clunker, and most magazines seem concerned more with expensive seperates and turntables that "offer outstanding value"... at £2995... o_O... my CAR cost less than that, jeez
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    I have more luck with +R's playing in my own standalone player, but if I send any out to other people they're usually -R's (8x if I can spare them).
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    There is no such thing as a "minus" disc. You don't call it "DVD minus R" anymore than you'd call it a "CD minus R" disc.

    It's simply "DVD R" and "DVD plus R".
    This has been discussed here many months ago. Although I understand your point because DVD–R is supposed to be written with a dash and not a hyphen, it is still my opinion that to call it minus is logical and convenient. Most people, including you and some DVD media makers, write it with a hyphen. If we will strictly stick to "dash" principle, how will we read this: DVD±RW? It will be confusing to read it with silent "dash" sign, if it were really a dash.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R
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    Originally Posted by edong
    it is still my opinion that to call it minus is logical and convenient. Most people, including you and some DVD media makers, write it with a hyphen.
    I'm sure that puts a smile on the face of Ricoh/Sony/Philips. Their goon marketing has worked on somebody. But it's still not correct.

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    If we will strictly stick to "dash" principle, how will we read this: DVD±RW? It will be confusing to read it with silent "dash" sign, if it were really a dash.
    No such "DVD±RW" format exists. The correct verbiage for this is "dual-format DVD burner".
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Originally Posted by edong
    it is still my opinion that to call it minus is logical and convenient. Most people, including you and some DVD media makers, write it with a hyphen.
    I'm sure that puts a smile on the face of Ricoh/Sony/Philips. Their goon marketing has worked on somebody. But it's still not correct.

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    If we will strictly stick to "dash" principle, how will we read this: DVD±RW? It will be confusing to read it with silent "dash" sign, if it were really a dash.
    No such "DVD±RW" format exists. The correct verbiage for this is "dual-format DVD burner".
    If somebody asks me what "dual" refers to, I will say one is for +R and the other to R. Just ignore the other sign. And it is more correct to refer the DVD±RW as dual-format DVD burner than DVD-R as DVD minus R (to distinguish it from DVD+R). Perhaps, if they did not invent the +R format . . . .
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    I was always told it was "plus R" and "dash R"
    Where in the world is "-R" media ever written just as "R"?

    hmmm...
    anyway who cares so long as it allows you to easily identify between the two major types eh?

    Had further funs with it; the laptops at work seem to like everything except +R... incompatibility HO!!! Damn format wars.
    (then again the drives do seem generally faulty and have +R/RAM markings on, so how can you ever be sure?)
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  15. DVD-R (Verbatim Advanced Azodye)

    The -R and -RW variants support a whole bunch of features not available with +R and +RW. My standalone Sony DVD recorder can do all kinds of nifty things with -R and -RW.
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