DVD2SVCD & CCE.....yet again

[dizidave]

OK, i tried the CRC patch that some one sent me (thanks whoever it was) and it looks like it got CCE working ok......anyway, DVD2SVCD went through a full run.

What i dont understand is that in DVD2SVCD I set the number of discs to use to 3 CD's (800's)

If you take a look at the log below you will see what the output was.....not surprisingly i wasnt particularly impressed with the output (but not surprising considering max bitrate was 2000)

I thought that DVD2SVCD chose a bitrate that would fill the number of CD's that you have selected?

What u can see from teh log is that the first CD is crammed to the brim, while the second CD is less than half full and the third CD has nothing on it at all (except i think the title pic)

Can anyone set me straight here please?

I would love to get this working properly so that i could do a decent comparrison between CCE and TMPGEnc.

Thanks.

[dizidave]

Oooops!

Heres the log from DVD2SVCD.....



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- 22/01/2002 20:31:31
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.6 build 1
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 22/01/2002 20:31:35
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\temp\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program
Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -IA=1 -CS=2 -EXIT -OF=[C:\temp\DVD2AVI_P
roject_file] -IF=[D:\DEVILSADVOCATE_PAL_DISC4\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob, D:\DEVIL
SADVOCATE_PAL_DISC4\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,D:\DEVIL SADVOCATE_PAL_DISC4\VIDEO_
TS\VTS_01_3.vob,D:\DEVILSADVOCATE_PAL_DISC4\VIDEO_ TS\VTS_01_4.vob,D:\DEVILSA
DVOCATE_PAL_DISC4\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob,D:\DEVILSA DVOCATE_PAL_DISC4\VIDEO_TS
\VTS_01_6.vob,D:\DEVILSADVOCATE_PAL_DISC4\VIDEO_TS \VTS_01_7.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 22/01/2002 20:36:12
- Free on drive C: 3999.80 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\temp\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -104 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 22/01/2002 20:42:17
- Free on drive C: 3620.05 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting DVD Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\temp\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input
"C:\temp\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output
"C:\temp\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" ) -azid( -c normal -g max -L -3db ) -ota( -g
max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\temp\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 22/01/2002 21:19:42
- Free on drive C: 3398.52 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 22/01/2002 21:19:48
- Free on drive C: 3397.31 mb
- Video Encoding
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2495536764
AudioSectors: 239318548
VideoPAPO: 34950024
ScanOffsetBytes: 316239
SeqAligningBytes: 20098745
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2200853195.67
Seconds: 8433.04
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 210826
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 1
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: One Pass VBR
Q. Factor: 70
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2087
Closing program
Video Encoding finished.

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- 23/01/2002 00:12:24
- Free on drive C: 2441.11 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 23/01/2002 00:12:26
- Free on drive C: 2441.09 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe"
"C:\temp\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 23/01/2002 00:12:29
- Free on drive C: 2441.03 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe"
"C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
5716 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 5718
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe"
"C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2576 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 8294
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe"
"C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 23/01/2002 00:28:02
- Free on drive C: 1258.30 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
5717.760 seconds C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2577.189 seconds C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
1.228 seconds C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 23/01/2002 00:29:09
- Free on drive C: 1258.30 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 31

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program
Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD
1.cue" --bin-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin"
"C:\temp\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 23/01/2002 00:32:51
- Free on drive C: 1198.95 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 12

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program
Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD
2.cue" --bin-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin"
"C:\temp\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
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- 23/01/2002 00:33:57
- Free on drive C: 824.16 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 1

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program
Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD
3.cue" --bin-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin"
"C:\temp\VCDXBuild_Script_3.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 23/01/2002 00:34:01
- Free on drive C: 803.28 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[dvd2svcd]

Heh, now wonder you get bad result. Try setting the Q Factor to 5

Q 70 = really really bad

Besides, there is no way to calculate the proper filesize when using 1 pass vbr, as there is no such thing as an Avg. Bitrate in 1 pass vbr. So if you want to be sure to get good quality and perfect filesizes either user multipass or CBR (however, cbr is not as good in quality as multipass)

[dizidave]

thanks alot!!! ill give it a whirl.....

P.S. does the Q factor in CCE have a counterpart in TMPGEnc?

(just for comparison purposes)

[sommersby]

also for best quality you need to do 3 passes on CCE, 1 pass will yield allot of blockiness.

[Truman]

In TMPG the Q(uality) range is 0-100 (100=highest), in CCE the
Q(uantization factor) range is 0-300 (0=highest). The average Q range according to the cce manual is 40-80. Q=5 comes quite close to CBR.

[Bozo]

Hey were did you download the patch for cce2.50?

[Truman]

Is it soooo hard to seach the forum ?
https://www.videohelp.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=59566&highlight=crc+patch

[TitaniumDragon2001]

Hey dizidave,
Can you send me that Patch That someone sent to you? Please send it to me at my email address dbztitanium@hotmail.com . Thanks alot I really Need it.

Thanks in advance!!