DVDr MEdia

[chrissmc]

Can anyone tell me a brand and product name for inkjet DVDR media that doesn’t have red or purple dye recording surface, I want to achieve a pressed cd/dvd look, and yes, the color on the bottom counts! Can anyone suggest a product? And a retailer if possible? Please don’t post questions or dumb remarks about the color dye, to me it matters not to have red or purple. Thanks!

[Noahtuck]

Can anyone tell me a brand and product name for inkjet DVDR media that doesn’t have red or purple dye recording surface, I want to achieve a pressed cd/dvd look, and yes, the color on the bottom counts! Can anyone suggest a product? And a retailer if possible? Please don’t post questions or dumb remarks about the color dye, to me it matters not to have red or purple.

Then you may as well delete this post now because you are not going to find any in existence

If you want the pressed look/color then you better look into having a large scale production done with a pressing service

[chrissmc]

Like I said... no dumb remarks 2 years ago i had the chance to purchase german made DVD media that had the true silver diamond surface, unfortunately they are no longer imported, and they do exist, also Yuden has something like it but i cant find a retailer... This forum is about helping others not venting vile sarcasm and stupidity.

[Noahtuck]

Like I said... no dumb remarks 2 years ago i had the chance to purchase german made DVD media that had the true silver diamond surface, unfortunately they are no longer imported, and they do exist, also Yuden has something like it but i cant find a retailer... This forum is about helping others not venting vile sarcasm and stupidity.

If you had a clue you would know why pressed media is the color it is and why dvdr media is the color it is

So far the only one

venting vile sarcasm and stupidity.

is

And if such a thing existed i'm sure a good few million people would love to know

[solarfox]

Just because the answer isn't the one you want to hear doesn't make it dumb or stupid.

Frankly, I have never heard of any German company that actually manufactures DVD-R media, and I can see no evidence whatsoever on Taiyo Yuden's site that they make any kind of DVD-R media with a silver data surface (as opposed to the silver labeling/printing surface, which they do make) -- so unless you can provide some kind of proof, via links to a manufacturer or distributor site that specifically mentions such products, both of your claims are somewhat suspect, I'm afraid.

As far as I know, what you want simply does not exist, and probably can't exist seeing as how DVD-R uses a visible-light laser and thus would need a dye layer which can absorb and reflect/be opaque to visible-wavelength light. They do make "diamond-surface" CD-R media, yes -- but that's only possible because CD-R uses an infrared laser, so the dye layer can be made to be (mostly) transparent to visible light while still being reflective to or absorptive of infrared wavelengths. (This is also the reason those black CD-Rs exist, while black DVD-Rs don't -- the "black" plastic is transparent to infrared, so the CD optics can still "see" right through it while your eyes can't.)

[kiki]

many dvd-rw disks have a silver burn area.
I have about 50 of them.
I do not know if they come with a printable surface.
But this will give you something to search for

kiki

[chrissmc]

What do you call telling someone something as obvious as water gets you wet? Its stupid sarcasm, and apparently you don’t see that when you say delete this post because if you want pressed look you should get pressed MEDIA… please! Don’t write anything if it is as obvious, and don’t post if your answer is not helpful.

Also, if you don’t know of something it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist… if you have never seen the Eiffel tower, does it mean it doesn’t exist?

The way CD/DVD Media is made is no big secret, and if you didn’t know, ill explain:

It is made with a plastic media polyurethane with a thin layer of a photochemical reactive compositions of carbon and minerals, such thing is the Dye, purple and red dye are made from organic molecules, that are photo sensitive, and it is a cheaper dye, the term True silver/diamond is a standard in CD industry, and it is accomplished by using a green dye on a silver contrast medium, therefore the CD/DVD ends up looking almost as silver as a pressed media…

In the other hand, when pressed media is made it is made just about the same as in the old days when vinyls were pressed, it’s a vinyl plastic medium with a laminated chrome carrier… and that is the reason it looks silver / pewter color…

In my case, I give my friends and clients a DVD from wedding or get together and of course I am not going to do mass production…2 years ago I bought 5thousand units of a German made DVD media, because that was at wholesale price and minimum quantity of sale, so it lasted me a long time, the media I had was white printable inkjet media with true silver / diamond surface, a little greenish but almost as good as silver… the reason to prefer this other than purple dye media is because it lasts longer, it doesn’t get much UV damage and it looks great…besides it is a flawless media.

Most importantly, if you read closely, I wasn’t asking for someone to tell me what is obvious, all I needed was someone who knows where to buy “yuden” ( Chinese brand) media of this type, or any other brand… IT EXISTS, EVEN IF YOU DON’T KNOW ABOUT IT don’t bother to insist it doesn’t help much if you do.

[chrissmc]

KIKI can you tell me what brand and product name or manufacturers code you have?
That is very helpful, thank you!!

[Noahtuck]

No one ever said they needed a lesson on how dvdr media is made or the diff. between dvdr media and pressed dvd media...

You asked for dvdr media that did NOT have the purple or "red" dye....
you wanted to achieve a "Pressed" look....
well i hate to tell you but it's not gonna happen norbert

And dvdrw is not the same as dvdr, i have tons of dvdrw media... it's not purple or "red" but it's still not even close to looking like pressed media.....
Hell... pretty much any dvdrw media i have ever seen has a silverish tint to it without being puprle or "red" but still not even as close as cdr media is to pressed media,
not to mention dvdrw is not going to be as compatible as dvdr...
But then you already knew that water get's you wet huh

for someone that know's so much you sure are pretty jumpy and on the attack for a first post that just screamed tell me what i should already know

[chrissmc]

Im really sorry, I never mentioned DVDRW did I? any one hear me say DVDRw?... I have no clue where you get in to that idea... also... please... please... please.... stop your wiseness mr... im sorry, i really never intended to be jumpy, and besides, does it matter if its a first or a last post? does it? You write with such autority and pretend to know it all and be the man in charge... dont bother posting if it doesnt help... Im sorry if you dont understand... Its not about being jumpy, it just doesnt help to have your kind of coments here...your attitude and wise guy answers just discourages people from asking questions... and it just puts you in a public display of what kind of person you are... and maybe who cares, but believe me I am sure people in this forum are looking for help from people that have an answer and never to waste time with people who cant accept that if they dont have something helpful to say, they shouldnt say it... i wish there was someone in charge of this forum to take out incoherent unhelpful posts.

I thank KIKI and the rest of the guys for their coherent help... Thank you Guys... and lets move on.

[canadateck]

I'm with you Noahtuck you always have a Helping hand.

[VegasBud]

chrissmc,

If all you want to do is get more disks like the ones you had before, just put one of them in a drive and use ImgBurn (or other programs) to get the media id. It doesn't matter whether it has already been burned or not. Once you have the media id, google should be able to help you locate more of them.

To be honest, I also don't think what you are looking for exists, and I'll tell you why. While dvd duplication houses will bend over backwards to fulfill requests (for an added fee), they don't offer "silver bottoms" as an option (no matter how much you are willing to spend for them). Given the demand, and potential profit, they would have long ago rooted out such media if it existed. There are also pages like this one that explain why media distributors can't fulfill requests for "silver bottom" recordable disks. Once again, despite the large demand, and the loss of potential profit by not meeting the demand, the unavailability of the product prevents the welcome business.

By the way, the outer layers of dvds (stamped or recordable) are made of polycarbonate, not polyurethane or vinyl. Also, aluminum is most commonly used for the foil layer in stamped dvds because it's inexpensive and relatively impervious to corrosion. I've also heard of gold, silver, or copper being used, but not chrome.