burning 4 short mpgs to dvd?

[willhenderson]

what would be the easiest program to do it?

i tried using winavi to convert to dvd then burn with nero's burning rom but i get a errror as it starts, i also tried neros vision xpress, and i get errors also. im thinking i need a app specifically for ".mpg"

any ideas

[daamon]

Are the source MPGs DVD compliant?

If you're not sure, use GSpot v2.52 beta to ge info from the file. Take a screen shot and post it here.

[teegee420]

It might also help to know what the error message says that you're getting in Nero.

[willhenderson]

thanks for the replys, here is a shot of the file opened in GSpot




(@ teegee420 i didnt print the txt of the error)

[daamon]

From that screenshot, the resolution is already NTSC VCD - which is DVD compliant.

The audio is MP2 at 44.1KHz. You'll need to address the audio, as MP2 isn't in the NTSC DVD spec (though most DVD players nowadays appear to play it), and the DVD spec requires the audio to be at 48KHz, not 44.1KHz - so it'll need to be upsampled.

In short, what you have is a VCD compliant MPG file. You only need to get the audio to either WAV (huge filesize) or AC3 (much better as files are smaller) and upsampled to 48KHz and you'll be good to go.

Anticipating your next question... Here's how to sort the audio out:

1) Load the MPG into VirtualDubMod.
2) Save the audio to a WAV file. There are guides that tell you how to do this - look below the tool's listing on it's download page.
3) Encode that WAV file to AC3 @ 224kbps (suggested) using ffmpeggui.
4) Author to DVD using original MPG as video source, and new AC3 as audio source.

[guns1inger]

Authoring software such as TDA or DVD Lab will automatically recognise VCD files and transcode the audio accordingly. WinAVI and Nerovision will needlessly re-encode evrything.

[daamon]

Authoring software such as TDA or DVD Lab will automatically recognise VCD files and transcode the audio accordingly.

Well, I never knew that!!! You learn something new every day...

However doesn't the MP2 vs NTSC DVD compliance issue still stand? I guess it's OK if the OP's DVD plays MP2s. But AC3 is in spec and so will be played.

WinAVI and Nerovision will needlessly re-encode evrything.

But I knew that! Isn't WinAVI the one everyone says to stay away from coz it's sh*t?

[willhenderson]

right using these settings correct? (i now have a .ac3 file)



thing is now, what do i use to go burn?? im going to have 4 mpgs and 4 ac3 audio files right..i want to burn all 4 videos to dvd to play in order....

thanks for the help it is appreciated

[guns1inger]

MP2 seems to be a lot less of an issue nowadays. Coupled with the fact that many conversion programs only offer PCM and MP2 to avoid paying for AC3 licenses means that it is a very common format for home made material (rightly or wrongly)

@WillHenderson

You now need to author the discs, using the original video and the new audio. What software are you going to author with ?

[willhenderson]

well that is the the thing im not sure about, what does it.....im thinking something prefferably small in size and free....i do have nero but like i said i tried neros burning rom and vision xpress and it didnt work.....maybe theres another route i need to take

any ideas

[daamon]

If you're sticking with AC3, then those settings are spot on.

There are DVD authoring tools that are free:

GUI for DVDAuthor
DVDAuthorGUI

But I doubt if these will upsample your MP2 audio, but should take the AC3.

Or, you can get the fully functional 30-day trial of TMPGEnc DVD Author (TDA, mentioned above) and use that to upsample your MP2. This, too, takes AC3 audio.

[willhenderson]

ya im looking to go that route^^^ not sure i get the upsample your MP2 Audio part, but ill try out TMPGEnc

[daamon]

not sure i get the upsample your MP2 Audio part

You've got MP2 at 44.1KHz sample rate. For DVD you need 48KHz - you need to upsample. TDA does this automatically, but MP2 isn't in DVD spec though commonly played.

AC3 is in spec and so safest, but a bit more work.

[willhenderson]

Darn so i got DVD Author, tried adding a mpg and i get this. harder than i thought.

[daamon]

Sorry, I've no idea what a "VBV buffer size" is or how you might fix it so it's acceptable. Time to search and, in the meantime, see if anyone else responds.

[guns1inger]

At a guess, what you have may be VCD resolution, but have not been encoded for VCD use, and are therefore not VCD or DVD compliant. Which would mean you are back to square one - having to encode the videos to a compliant state.

I don't know if DVD Patcher can perhaps fool TDA into accepting the videos as-is. It is worth a try.

[Bobo2010]

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[willhenderson]

wow so what way you guys think i should now go? id rather not trick anything into accepting the file because it might pick up on my stand alone but not others, im going to be sending these videos to a friend overseas and id rather be more sure they are going to work than have them not be playable and have to send it back n forth.

what would be some other ways of converting, what other format or programs that would be best

[ZippyP.]

Try authoring with TDA, free 30 day trial available.

[daamon]

Try authoring with TDA, free 30 day trial available.

He already has...

Darn so i got DVD Author, tried adding a mpg and i get this. harder than i thought.

A result from Google on VBV Buffer Size:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=18970

[daamon]

At a guess, what you have may be VCD resolution, but have not been encoded for VCD use, and are therefore not VCD or DVD compliant.

Your guess appears to be confirmed by this:

www.dvdhelp.us/index.html?html/tuttmpgencadvvideo.html~mainFrame

And, yes, I know - I'm sorry. Referencing material from that site...

Of particular interest is the information under the description for the VBV, particularly:

Usual values are 40 when producing an MPEG-1 VCD and 112 for an MPEG-2 SVCD. These are the minimum allowed by the specifications...

@ willhenderson: Does TDA allow you to ignore the error message? i.e Acknowledge it and continue anyway. Or does it have wording along the lines of "This can't be ignored"?

It would seem that the danger in having a higher VBV value is that some players may, in effect, become swamped with more data than they can handle at any one time and throw their toys out of the pram in some fashion.

[willhenderson]

@ willhenderson: Does TDA allow you to ignore the error message? i.e Acknowledge it and continue anyway. Or does it have wording along the lines of "This can't be ignored"?

No i cant continue, the button for it isnt lit up im only able to click "cancel"

[jimmalenko]

To the best of my knowledge you only have one option:

Re-encode.