Why does it change wide screen to full screen?

[adamthole]

I ripped Shrek last night, to test out my SVCD capabilities, but it changed it from wide screen, over to Full Frame, why? I use Smart Ripper, DVD2AVI, and TMPGenc. Is there some option I had clicked that did that? Thanks.

[gastric]

I'm currently using DVDx and it defaults to letterboxing all movies. You have to manually set the "Zoom" feature to "full 16:9 or 4:3" to not letterbox everything. Look for a similar feature in the tools you're currently using.

[Truman]

Probably you have a 16:9 anamorphic DVD. DVD2AVI does not resize, so this have to be done in TMPG.
Advanced: Source aspect ratio 16:9 "full screen[keep aspect ratio]"
Video: Aspect ratio: 4:3

[Sefy]

I'd just like to add and enhance what Truman said, in TMPGEnc go to Settings / Advanced and do these two settings:

Source aspect ratio = 16:9 Display
Video arrange method = Full screen (aspect ratio 2)

in Settings / Video:
Aspect Ratio = 4:3

unless you have a 16:9 TV

[LazY]

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Source aspect ratio = 16:9 Display
Video arrange method = Full screen (aspect ratio 2)

in Settings / Video:
Aspect Ratio = 4:3

unless you have a 16:9 TV
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Sefy,

does the same apply to DVDs in FullScreen mode? i mean to use for them:

Source aspect ratio = 4:3 _Display_
<not any NTSC ones?>

Video arrange method = Full screen (aspect ratio _2_)
<not the first one?>

and, BTW, which template is better for the following playing NTSC VCD on standalone DVD player - VideoCD (NTSC) or VideoCD (NTSCFilm)?

thanks


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: LazY on 2001-12-12 22:01:16 ]</font>

[Sefy]

LazY, the same basicly does apply, even if the movie source is not 16:9 and if you make TMPGEnc still use it, then the movie will appear with the black bars even though the original didn't have it, but it will be squashed, and the charcters would need a severe diet

As for the type of Template, well, that depends on how you did the Project Files in DVD2AVI, if you used Force Film, then you better use the NTSC Film, if not, use NTSC (unless the movie is PAL!)

[poopyhead]

hrm...if you wanted to keep the same aspect ratio...don't u need to choose

fit to frame (preserve aspect ratio)

of course maybe the same setting has been changed from earlier versions of tmpgenc (like double=blend)

btw...aspect ratio 2?....wut does that do compared with regular preserve aspect ratio?

[Sefy]

poopyhead, fit to frame is now called Full Screen, as for the Aspect Ratio, between the 1 and 2, the diffrence is only viewed on Media Player, not using your DVD Standalone.

[poopyhead]

ah....wut's the diff. on mplayer then?

[Sefy]

Well, as far as I remember, when you use the first aspect ratio then in Media Player played in Window Mode you will see the correct aspect, but when played in full screen, it will not be played correctly, as if the black bars aren't there.

When you use the Aspect Ratio 2, then when you play in Media Player in full screen, the black bars are retained and the movie plays in the correct aspect.

[poopyhead]

really?...hrm..i've used fit to frame (preserve aspect ratio) and the black bars are still there when full screen in media player...

but i guess it really doesn't matter cuz media player can't play SVCDs once their burned on SVCD discs by nero...

[Sefy]

You seem to be using an older version of TMPGEnc, i'm presuming around the 12a area, you need to select the Preseve Ratio 2 in order for it to show the black bars in full screen playback.

The Black Bars ARE the correct aspect ratio, without them, it is NOT the correct playback (if your movie is Wide Screen)

[Fastfwd]

If I understand correctly you must make svcd for either 4:3 or 16:9. So if I make all my svcd in 4:3 now and buy a widescreen tv later I will have to watch it with both vertical and horiontal bars???

[Sefy]

I have no idea regarding Wide Screen TV, maybe if they have a Zoom function you'll be able to eliminate the bars, but if not, then I doubt it will get rid of the bars.

[BenzBen]

Kinda on the same topic, but:

I ripped and burned Bring It On, and instead of being 16:9 format like the DVD, the VCD is fullscreen.

I know that you can adjust the size in TMPGEnc, but I noticed that while using Smart Ripper, one of the fields says "Pan and Scan." Does this mean that Smart Ripper is ripping it as Pan and Scan rather than the 16:9 format??
If so, how do I change that?

Note: I also ripped and burned Swordfish, but that remained in widescreen 16:9 format.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: BenzBen on 2001-12-14 09:26:44 ]</font>

[poopyhead]

dunno how accurate smartripper is...maybe it has become more accurate with later versions, but the earlier version of using, it constantly gives incorrect aspect ratios...so i only trust dvd2avi (even though dvd2avi has also told me incorrect aspect ratios on 2 movies)

in regards to Sefy's reply, yes...i'm using 12a still (works great for me so i didn't wanna bother with changing)....anywayz, i still only choose preserve aspect ratio (not 2) and when i was watching a rip of an anamorphic widescreen DVD in fullscreen in media player, the aspect ratio is completely maintained...i even compared it to the original DVD's aspect ratio by using tape on the monitor to keep track of the aspect ratio (all the black bars are still there and in correct sizes and positions)

so....??

[BenzBen]

Wait... DVD2AVI can rip? If so, how do you do it.

And would you still need to frameserve to encode on TMPGEnc?

[Sefy]

BenzBen, Smart Ripper just rips the VOB's as is, whatever that is on the VOB's is what the movie will be like, Smart Ripper does not make that decision.

poopyhead, like your, I also have the old TMPGEnc 12a, I rename the exe to TMPGEncA so I won't overwrite it with newer versions the reason I keep it is because it can open ASF files and other types of files that new versions no longer open, but it is very slow when it comes to encoding

BenzBen, no DVD2AVI can't rip, only frameserve, but you can use the Statistics window to tell what type your movie is.

[cdubbleu]

Hi I´ve also benn wondering about keeping the right aspect ratio on my rip´s.
And what helped me a lot was a thread I found in another forum. There´s a guy who gives a really good explanation of the aspect ratio issues. Even if it´s not directly related to a special programm (like TMPGenc...) it helped me a lot.
So i thought this might be intresting...
here is the link: http://rilanparty.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=1bcd13881ca773a6c30171377e31db63&threadid=5905

greetz,

[shorsfall]

The best way to keep the right aspect ratio is:

Write down the settings in DVD2AVI (I dont trust smartripper)

You must remember one thing. If your DVD is 16:9, you must encode your VCD to 16:9 otherwise the aspect ratio will be incorrect. You cant simply change from 16:9 to 4:3. The image will be out of proportion.

On the note of playing on a widescreen TV, it should remove the black bars.