world cup 2006

[Baldrick]

I got tickets to Sweden - Paraguay!!!

anyone else going to germany this summer?

and i'm talking about real football.

[MackemX]

I got tickets to Sweden - Paraguay!!!

anyone else going to germany this summer?

and i'm talking about real football.

I hear ya!

I'm not going but I will go to a World Cup one day, probably when it comes to England . I don't know if there's any plans to bid for future World Cups or even who's got the next one

anyone know?

[MackemX]

forgot to ask, who are you supporting? :P

I've got Scandinavian roots from Denmark 8) but I don't even know if they are there . Always good to have a backup team to support

:edit: No Denmark

[Cole]

I've got Scandinavian roots from Denmark 8) but I don't even know if they are there . Always good to have a backup team to support

:edit: No Denmark

In the same boat there; my second team is Belgium (Mother was from there), but they're not in it either.

[Baldrick]

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I had applied tickets for 10 matches....and I was hoping for sweden-england. But I might get some tickets in the last sales period...but I don't thinks so...4.5 million applied for 300000 tickets in this sales period.

[Cole]

Is Sven Goran-Ericsson still Public Enemy No. 1 in Sweden?

[MackemX]

you can always get some black market tickets at silly prices

I remember the last few times we played Sweden . Should be a good game I reckon

fancy a little side bet?

[Baldrick]

Is Sven Goran-Ericsson still Public Enemy No. 1 in Sweden?

Who?

[MackemX]

yeah.......Who?

I thought Mike Bassett was manager of England now?

[Cole]

Souness is now free.

[MackemX]

Souness is now free.

yep and hopefully Mick McCarthy also will be soon. Newcastle are free to come and poach him

[MeDiCo_BrUjO]

I got tickets to Sweden - Paraguay!!!

anyone else going to germany this summer?

and i'm talking about real football.

I hear ya!

I'm not going but I will go to a World Cup one day, probably when it comes to England . I don't know if there's any plans to bid for future World Cups or even who's got the next one

anyone know?

HELL YEAH!!!

Ecuador is going to win this time... eh eh eh!

I just hope we do good this time.

[hech54]

I got tickets to Sweden - Paraguay!!!

anyone else going to germany this summer?

and i'm talking about real football.

So you are going to Berlin?
I love Berlin. Been there several times myself.

[Baldrick]

Yep and first time in Berlin. Already booked ibis hotel....

Anything that you recommend that I must visit?...except sweden-paraguay..

[Caple]

I would love to go to a World Cup one day too, must be damn cool.
Hope this year we get our 6th star

[hech54]

Yep and first time in Berlin. Already booked ibis hotel...

WooHoo...a rookie...
No worries...I still consider myself a newbie or "rookie" in
Berlin too.

Well the Ibis Mitte Hotel is near the TV Tower…a short walk from
Alexanderplatz…all of the cool touristy shit is over that direction including
The Brandenburg Gate, Checkpoint Charlie etc etc etc.

The Ibis Hotel Ostbahnof is two train stops further east…basically in
the same area of Berlin so basically you are already on the “touristy” side
of Berlin no matter which Ibis you are staying.

The S5 and S75 (overhead trains)supposedly go directly from both of those hotels to the
Olympic Stadium….though I swear I had to switch trains once…but I may be
getting confused with a concert venue near the Olympic Stadium called the Waldbühne.

The overheads are the second best way around Berlin….especially the lines mentioned
above…that is the main one – the one I always use. The best way to be touristy
is on a bicycle.
Buy a map too…just in case. Berlin is BIG but it is also FLAT…a map is
a necessity.

[Cole]

I would love to go to a World Cup one day too, must be damn cool.
Hope this year we get our 6th star

Don't be so greedy

[TimBooth4Eva]

Come On England.

Yeah, I know most of you out there hate us, but what the hell. We have some REAL world class players now. If they gell and peak together, who can say what will happen.

Just need a decent British manager who can keep his bits in his pants and who is loyal to the cause.

Oh, and for the few idiot fans to stay away and for the rest of the football world to give us some credit for a change.

Come On England.

Peace......

[bigmicka]

not going but will be spending the month up late a t night watching from the other side of the world.

First time in my life that Australia has finally made the world cup.

but playing Brazil Croatia and Japan might be a hard ask for us to get into the second round.

I thought they were trying to replace Sven with Guus Hiddink, you cant steal him of us just yet.

mic

[Cole]

I thought they were trying to replace Sven with Guus Hiddink, you cant steal him of us just yet.

Sven isn't going until after the world cup, but the noises here are that the English FA want to have a British manager; but as we all know the English FA always stick to thier decisions and steadfast back up their employees

[Heywould3]

i started to put a long msg here regarding foot ball and "real" foot ball.. being from the US ill agree im biased. but just because it had the same name doesnt mean by any means its close to the same thing.. ill put any major US football player up aginst any major original football player as far as size and strength. not to say that us football is better just that it is different. original football players play long games and do it on bigger fields.. but i bet that if you took the best players on again "original" football and put them in a us football game.. they would be screwed.. on the same hand.. i dont think any top US football player could have any affect in a international football game..


for the record. that statement was redon a few times to make sure it didnt sound like i thouhgt one was better than the other.. just to say that we should trying to compare one to the other.. its like apples and oranges

ps please forgive the sp errors and typoes i see there are quite a bit.. i dint want to re do it.

[MackemX]

Hi Heywould, there's nothing to be biased about so there's no problem 8)

it's only the word football that is causing the debates in my eyes. The equivalent to American football here in the UK is rugby and not football (soccer). You cannot really compare the two sports of 'football' in terms of size and strength of the players as that's like comparing an apple to a knife not apples to oranges or knives with forks . These guys are simply experts in their fields and it's obvious they won't beat each other

the thing is the rugby guys don't need girlie padding but it's just as fierce contact at times. It is also an 80 minutes game split into two 40 minutes or something. It's not an hour game (or however long a AF game is) split into 4 quarters spread over 3 hours with a breather every 15 seconds

So as a much better comparision put a team of the best hard faced rugby players up against any Amercian football team without the padding and I know who's ass would be getting whupped .

It would be very hard for the AF guys to handle 80 minutes non-stop physical contact without padding and extra training. That's like fighting a boxing match without boxing gloves as it's skin to skin, bone to bone with very little soft stuff in between. It is also like a 15000m runner trying to run a marathon, they couldn't do it without extra training to get a decent performance

The rugby guys however would find wearing padding and having a breather every minute or so being like a stroll in the park on a quiet Sunday morning . They will have less impact and they will also need less stamina

I think the whole debate that always pops up is the fact the name is 'football'. To me American Football looks like the ball is in the hand a lot more than being kicked. So which silly idiot decided to call it American Football? we should all blame him :P

cheers 8)

[MackemX]

look at the early name for College football, it's ‘ballown’, American Ballown, just doesn't have the same ring to it does it? .

http://wiwi.essortment.com/americanfootbal_rwff.htm

HISTORY OF AMERICAN FOOTBALL

HISTORY OF AMERICAN FOOTBALL

Football historians, those who have studied the game and its origins, place the game’s beginnings in rugby, an English game played with many similarities to football. Rugby began in eighteen twenty-three at the famous Rugby Boys’ School in England. Another cousin of the game of football is soccer; its beginnings can also be traced to English origin, being played as early as the eighteen twenties.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL: ITS BEGINNINGS

At the same time, a group of students at Princeton began playing what was then known as ‘ballown’. First using their fists to advance the ball, and then their feet, this game consisted mainly of one goal: to advance the ball past the opposing team. There were no hard and fast rules applied to this earliest attempt at the game we now call football.

more in link above......

another interesting read 8)

http://rl1908.com/resources/Origin-Rugby.htm

The origin of Rugby in England goes back long into the 19th century and even earlier. In 1800's formalities were introduced to football rules in the seven major public schools of England. Six of the seven schools were largely playing the same game (including Eton, Harrow and Winchester) - while the seventh, Rugby School (founded in 1567) at Warwickshire, was playing a markedly different version of football.

It is at Rugby school where rugby origins
became codified into a sport.

Hunslet (white) v Liversedge at Halifax 1892

The other schools moved ahead refining their rules and eventually their game became known as "association football" - soccer. How the Rugby School's game developed differently is lost in history and the true story is unlikely to ever be known. The much revered tale of how in 1823 the young Rugby School student, William Webb Ellis, "in a fine disregard for the rules" picked up the ball and ran with it in a defining moment in sports history is now accepted by sports historians as being fanciful and a gross distortion of what is known.

There is no doubt that Ellis was a student at Rugby School from 1816 to 1825, but he was never mentioned by anyone as having done the actual deed ascribed to him. The first reference to Ellis appeared in a Rugby School magazine in 1875 (four years after Ellis' death) by an Old Rugbeian, M. Bloxham, who was endeavouring to refute claims that rugby was an ancient game.

Bloxham's story has always been in doubt because of the time that had passed since Ellis supposedly ran with the ball. Bloxham himself wasn't there and no living person could corroborate his version of events. In addition, examination of existing records and documented recollections does not show that the Rugby game dramatically changed after one event (i.e. Ellis or anyone else deciding to run with the ball).

Handling the ball was permitted in football in the early 1800's when players were allowed to take a mark and then a free kick, long before Ellis arrived at Rugby. In fact, most of the public schools allowed forms of handling the ball right up until the formation of the Football Association in the 1860's. The Association even considered whether to allow its continuation, before eventually deciding to outlaw it. The reverse picture that the rugby game was born from soccer the moment Ellis picked up the ball and ran with it is now known to be unfounded.

so what I can gather, football with a decent set of rules started originally with guys kicking it around the field. You could use your hands at the time but only to take a 'mark' and then a free kick.

It isn't clear how Rugby came along as it could be a myth that a kid from the Rugby boys school picked up the ball and ran with it but it sounds good

I just don't understand why they didn't call it American Rugby or even change it in later years after it developed?

yet another interesting read if anyone has the time

http://www.football-rumours.com/football_history.htm

look further down the page at this :O

British Football History

In Britain during the 8th century, football was created, not as a recreational sport, but as a war game. One of the stories of the original roots of the sport comes from when a Danish Prince was beheaded, and his head was used as a ball and was kicked around. Ever since this 'legendary' tale, villages and other communities would play a game where they would have to kick a ball to a specific goal.

It was a violent game, where injury and death were not uncommon, but it was popular nevertheless. In fact, it was so violent, that in 1331, King Edward III passed laws to try to stop the playing of the game. It did not work, however, and the sport carried on.

either way although I have no interest in AF and find the name puzzling, I still think it's a decent sport and the guys are pretty fine tuned athletes in their field 8)

[Cole]

i started to put a long msg here regarding foot ball and "real" foot ball.. being from the US ill agree im biased. but just because it had the same name doesnt mean by any means its close to the same thing.. ill put any major US football player up aginst any major original football player as far as size and strength. not to say that us football is better just that it is different. original football players play long games and do it on bigger fields.. but i bet that if you took the best players on again "original" football and put them in a us football game.. they would be screwed.. on the same hand.. i dont think any top US football player could have any affect in a international football game..

Just as an aside, I had a very similar conversation a while back and I raised a very interesting point, which applies to Rugby as well as American Football.

In Football Football () the skill or effectiveness of a player does not necessarily depend on the size and strength of the player; Michael Owen for example isn't the biggest built person I have seen, but he is regarded as one of the best goalscorers, neither was Maradonna a particular muscular seven foot hulk (although now he has become a wide one). They may be an arugement that only the biggest lads become goal-keepers but that isn't always the case.

However, in the rugby world (and seemingly more so in American Football) the players that seem to be the most effective are the monsters e.g. New Zealand's Jonah Loumou (sp.) couldn't be stopped by anyone. Having said that, Johnny Wilkinson isn't exactly big, but he does spend half the time injured!

[Baldrick]

I got my swe-par tickets... ....but I don't think Sweden will go far though, we just don't have any good defence.

Is the world cup aired on free tv channels in Germany? so I can watch other games on my laptop, I have an analouge and digital dvb-t usb device.

[Caple]

Very cool, man!
It will probably air on free channels. Have no doubt about it.

[hech54]

My father in law won(free) two tickets the other day...a game in Hannover....not sure which one.

[Craig Tucker]

Is the world cup aired on free tv channels in Germany? so I can watch other games on my laptop, I have an analouge and digital dvb-t usb device.

Thats what pubs are for. Who you going with, mates or the missus.

[Baldrick]

I will driving around most of the time, a new city every day, leipzig, berlin, cologne, leipzig, cologne, hamburg....so I don't have time for pubs all days...

[Cunhambebe]

Curious...the tickets show Brazilian colors. By the way, where is Paraguay?