Mouse-over command/technic

[moviebuff2]

Hi everyone:

I am interested in learning the mouse-over command/technic that has been used at many web sites to prevent people from stealing their posted pictures.

Would someone please give me some directions?

Thanks

p.s.: I am already using watermark. :P

[yoda313]

Hello,

Try this mod at www.phpbb.com:

http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=303972&highlight=mouse

[moviebuff2]

Thank you, yoda313. Cheers.

[thecoalman]

Works only in IE:

<script language="JavaScript">
function right(e) {
if (navigator.appName == 'Netscape' && 
(e.which == 3 || e.which == 2))
return false;
else if (navigator.appName == 'Microsoft Internet Explorer' && 
(event.button == 2 || event.button == 3)) {
alert("Please don't steal my stuff!!!");
return false;
}
return true;
}
document.onmousedown=right;
if (document.layers) window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
window.onmousedown=right;
</script>

If you search around you'll probably find one compatible in both IE and FF -but- maybe not. FF ignores a lot of the stuff that trys to "posess" your computer. In th4 nedi it's like trying to prevent someone from copying your DVD's.

[Conquest10]

There is no way to prevent people from stealing your images.

[thecoalman]

There is no way to prevent people from stealing your images.

What he said... If they are determined they will just figure it out on there own or come somewhere like here and ask. Do some advertising and add the URL for your website to the watermark, personally I would think the watermark should be enough to deter anyone. No point if it has a big copyright mark on it.

[Conquest10]

Its not even that difficult at all (at least not in Firefox). I just went into a page that has that code and went to File>Save Page As... It saved the page as well as every image on it into a folder.

I just see trying to learn all this as a big waste of time. You're going through all this "high-tech" way to try to protect your images and its all defeated by a simple Save Page As.

[moviebuff2]

Hi

Preventing people from stealing my properties is the last thing on my list because, as you might have already read in my question, I have already used watermark. So anyone wants to take my watermarked photos, go right ahead.

But I think it would be hilarious to me that as soon as those people move the cursor over one of my photos, a figure looking like Mose but dressing like Confucius appears and points finger at them and says: "Thou shall not steal!"

Thanks for the directions. Cheers!

[RabidDog]

SO you would accuse anyone who moves the mouse to the wrong part of your website to be a thief?? A very effective customer retention device. be flattered people want your images ...

[dipstick]

For the record, any image can be taken using any browser by simple using the "PrintScreen" key. Then paste the image into your image editor where you can then crop out the image. If someone is skilled and determined, he can easily remove the watermark. But watermarking should keep out the honest people.

[moviebuff2]

Thanks for all the inputs.

I think this is such an interesting subject that we should keep it going on.

Here's "my challenge" :P for all of you.

I don't have a per se watermark software. The software I used came with my cheap digital camera (so cheap that I won't even dare mention the name here). Anyway, I created the below photo which merged one of my favorite photos that I took many years ago and my "Property of moviebuff2" sign.

Let's see if anyone can decompose(?) my "watermarked" photo.

Have fun and cheers!

[thecoalman]

About 3 seconds. The background helped a lot. I just smudged it, I'm not kidding either, took 3 seconds. Use a larger mark with gradient color fill.

[moviebuff2]

Impressive!

[rallynavvie]

For the record, any image can be taken using any browser by simple using the "PrintScreen" key. Then paste the image into your image editor where you can then crop out the image.

Except that if the image you're copying in that way is higher than screen res you automatically revert it down to screen res so it'll look like ass if you wanted to print it, and forget about enlarging it any.

[jimmalenko]

I wonder whether VBScript or JavaScript could be written to capture the key press of the PrintScreen button and provide alternate behaviour ?


Hmmmmm .....

[moviebuff2]

Hello again:

I can't help noticing that when I point to a topic, the first post of the topic appears in a nice little window.

Is this a mousse-over technique? Would that be OK for me to ask this web designer to show me how to do it?

I am creating my Exhibition Page - absolutely non-commercial - with a lot of pictures. I would like to enable visitors to my page to point to each picture to obtain detailed information of the picture, like the painter's name, the publication year, etc.

Thanks

[jimmalenko]

Is this a mousse-over technique? Would that be OK for me to ask this web designer to show me how to do it?

Yes, it's called "overlib" (view source will tell you that).

Google it and you can get the supplementary javascript code you need. then it's essentially just a matter of putting in the following code into your page:

onmouseover=overlib('text you want displayed')

More info here:

http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/

[moviebuff2]

Thanks jimmalenko:

This would be a nice addition to my exhibition. When I was creating my page, I had to decide between showing only the pictures or showing the pictures with all their pertinent info. The first choice would not help the viewers of my page appreciate the paintings; the latter would risk distracting viewers with too much info (not to mention the background music of my page already being a distraction :P ).

Now with this feature, I think that it would be nice for the visitors of my page to view all my pictures. If there is a particular picture that interests them, they can simply point to that picture and learn more about it. All of this while listening to the accompanying background music that pertains to the exhibition.

Cheers

[thecoalman]

You can get that by adding the alt attribute which you should be doing anyway, works for all images in IE. Seems to be hit and miss in FF. Can't figure out why it works for only some. Links on the left work all the time, plain images don't seem to work and a link o the right side doesn't work ... I don't think it works as fast as using JS though, you do have to hover for a few seconds.

[img]yourimage.jpg[/img]

[Ai Haibara]

I thought you weren't supposed to be using the alt attribute for images, like that? That's the impression I got from the FF extensions that said something like that, but enable alt comments for those pages that code it that way, anyway.

I'll go look at the extensions, again...

Edit: Hmm, guess I just made an assumption when reading the description in passing. For anyone who's curious, here's one (or the only?) extension: http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_popupalt.html.en

[Conquest10]

I thought you weren't supposed to be using the alt attribute for images, like that?

You are right.

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_img.asp

Firefox uses the alt attribute the way it's meant to be used, like an alternative text if the image won't load, not as a mouse-over text.

[Ai Haibara]

Huh. I remember reading that bit of text at some point, too. Maybe my mind IS going...

[lordsmurf]

These deterrents are all pretty good. In the last 10 years, I've come to these two conclusions, when it comes to "protected" images:

#1 - People who know how to get around them generally have no need to steal anything, they're quite talented on their own, will make their own content.

#2 - People who would steal images (and bandwidth) are generally too stupid to know how to get around some of the most basic deterrents. They are usually lazy and will just give up. They also lack imagination most of the time, hence the need to steal.

[thecoalman]

I thought you weren't supposed to be using the alt attribute for images, like that?

I use them as they were meant to be used, as alternat text. Generally your alternate text is going to be a description of the image which is what he wants to do. I was just pointing out that they work as pop up text too in IE, I can't prevent it from not working :P . Additionally I Figured out why they worked on some in FF because I was using the title attribute too for the ones that did work.

[psx_pirate]

I use a utility called html protector to prevent people stealing my site content ... it works well with several different options to protect images/text and source code ... it disables right clicking (save picture as etc) .. it disables print screen ... it disables save page ... images can be split into any number of pieces so that a person cannot go to their tempory internet files to retrieve images without spending several hours trying to put all the pieces back together to form the original image ... it does a lot of other stuff as well .... its not free though but if your images really are that valueable its worth the cost of $39.95 ... check it out here http://www.antssoft.com/htmlprotector

[thecoalman]

its not free though but if your images really are that valueable its worth the cost of $39.95 ... check it out here http://www.antssoft.com/htmlprotector

Here's the entire sample page. BTW, it may very well protect your source code but it's also preventing search engines from indexing it too. You're also going to have many who are simply not going to want to view your pages since it requires that JS be enabled. And to top it off I see you can stop people who are using FF from acessing your pages. Not a very user friendly appliction at all. BTW most of the stuff that does besides the source encryption can be accomplished with some simple code.

[jimmalenko]

Someone used imaging software with a capture feature now, didn't they ?

[Baldrick]

it disables print screen....hmm...

[jimmalenko]

It stops the page from caching locally too, so I would hope that you don't have many large file graphics and whatnot on a page, otherwise people (especially on dialup) will get pissed with it having to download the whole lot every time.

[thecoalman]

Someone used imaging software with a capture feature now, didn't they ?

Yep, just paste the URL, here's a resized one one from another post on similar topic that was already in the adrees bar.