DVD not player in older player...

[GreenStang511]

My post was locked 'cause I crossed the rules and I was issued a warning. I'll try my best to have that NOT happen again. I still need help as to why I cannot get my DVDs to play on the Phillips DVD825. "Please explain..." was the name of my other post. To differentiate, there are my camcorder videos and "other" videos if you know what I mean.

I want to thank everyone who has been helpful thus far.

Here is the recap:

My player is DVD/VCD/CD and takes DVD-R. "Other" movies with DVD Shrink and Nero play fine with brands Maxell and Sony.

With my miniDV, I've tried to capture to AVI and MPEG2, and use Nero to burn. The DVD outcome has the VIDEO_TS folder and the appropriate .IFO, .VOB etc...files. Any help is GREATLY appriciated. I'm still a newbie and I am wonder if there are settings that I am missing and/or something Nero may be doing to make an incompatable DVD.

[Abond]

The answer to your problem is quite simple one. Use one of the Guides under HOW TO here on the left side which doesn't include Nero. Try and see.

[FulciLives]

Before anyone responds to this plea for help please see this link ---> CLICK HERE

That's what happened the last time he/she asked this question.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[GreenStang511]

Thanks FulciLives

Yes lets make sure we look at how the newbie made an honest mistake.

Thanks again for the help, but I'll figure out my problems by myself since some of you think you are so superior. I see I've wasted my time here.

[Abond]

My suggestion was for real. I would do this.

[GreenStang511]

Thanks and I will!!

You see, my warning was because of the illegal thing which I don't do hardly at all. I did it to learn how to burn DVDs, and I used it in my post as a comparision when someone asked me about the media.

Thanks again for all that did help!!!

[Abond]

Well, your original question here and in the other thread was for help with your home made video. If you really don't need to be part of this forum, why you registered at all?

[ROF]

If you really don't need to be part of this forum, why you registered at all?

To look for help obviously. The reference to not needing to be a part of the forum is because there are some people here who can't see beyond a reference to an illegal discussion. The original post in which that occured was merely mentioning it in an off topic sort of way and was completely unrelated to the matter at hand.

I'm all for people trying to stop others for violating the law or discussing their illegal endeavors in this forum but let's try and keep the discussion to the subject at hand. There's no need to vilify someone for it. Quite a few people don't even realize that doing what the OP was warned about is illegal and can result in jail time. The OP was warned, a moderator took care of it, end of that discussion.

That being said, without any experience or knowledge of the video I'm going to say that either the video or the audio encoding is not DVD compliant. You can still have a VIDEO_TS folder with non-compliant video. Did you check to make sure both streams were DVD compliant before burning?

[mats.hogberg]

ROF is correct. If you find a post violating the AUP or otherwise bothering you, report it, and let the moderators deal with it.

/Mats

[GreenStang511]

Thanks ROF! Very sensible!

Yes, posting your exact problem is sometimes better then simply searching forums. This is why I signed up. I saw the wealth of info on the site and mostly learned what I know in about a week of reading. I knew nothing.

Anyway, I've used serveral programs. My last was that TMPGEnc. I've captured to DV AVI and MPEG-2. My last step has always been Nero to add these files and Nero turns them into the appropriate files. I have 2 DVD players in my computer. All tests so far work fine in both players.

[mats.hogberg]

Try authoring with a reliable authoring app like TMPGEnc DVD Author (30 day free trial) or free tools like DVDAuthorGUI or GUI for DVDAuthor.

/Mats

[greymalkin]

The OP was warned, a moderator took care of it, end of that discussion.

nothing was taken care of if I can just come back and do it again. This post doesn't even pretend to hide the fact that we are still talking about rented movies and with a wink and a nod it's ok?

The AUP is only good when it is enforced. Otherwise...game on!

...am i now in breach of national security? 8)

[ROF]

@greymalkin

Did you even read the referenced post? How about the original post above? We are not discussing rented movies at all. The discussion is about video shot with a MiniDV and making a compatible DVD from such video. Unless the original poster is shooting his MiniDV video of the display units screen and recording the rented movie in this manner(highly unlikely) I doubt your assumption of guilt holds any liquid. If you have a problem with such a discussion you can take it up in PMs but please do not continue to disrupt a valid subject.

[mats.hogberg]

Where do you see anything in this thread, violating the AUP? I don't, but if you do, please report it. Until then, keep this thread on topic.
As much as I hate to see noobs violating the AUP, I dislike when old members give them a hard time.

/Mats

[psx_pirate]

FFS ... give the guy a break ... he made a mistake ... we all make mistakes, and lets be honest ... how many members can homestly say they have never downloaded something illegally (even deleting it later is still illegal) .. my guess is not many. sometimes its a miracle that newbies even bother to post when they get this sort of treatment. ... this new post is perfectly valid and is in no way violating forum rules so lets try to help the guy

that said ... i haven't actually done any capturing but i have converted an avi that was captured by a friend (he wasn't having much luck either). i used TMPGenc 3.0 xpress to convert the avi's into DVD compliant mpeg's and then i used TMPGenc DVD Author to author the mpeg's into the needed dvd files (.ifo, .bup .vob etc) and saved them to my hdd ... you can of course use TMPGenc DVD Author to burn the disk but i chose to burn with Recordnow Max as i had a payed for version that i knew to be reliable for burning dvd's (i used the trial versions of the TMPGenc software) ... there are other tools that will do the job too (the ones listed by mats.hogberg to name a few) altho i have never used them

the best piece of advise here is ... keep away from NERO ... its crap for authoring dvd's

[GreenStang511]

Many thanks for all the support of my "issue". The treatment has definitily taken a turn for the best.

Now back to my other "issue". I will try some of these authoring softwares out. I guess if I use Nero or Sonic's Record Now which I have, to strictly do a burn and not author, then I may have a different out come. Tell me, when I do finally arrive at my .IFO, .BUP, .VOB files, is it as simple as throwing them into a VIDEO_TS folder and then buring a "DATA" DVD as appose to a "VIDEO" DVD?

[ROF]

Most of the Authoring APPS listed above will create the DVD compliant folders for you. From there you can either use the APPS burning software or create a Data DVD and drag the created DVD compliant folders to your project.

[mats.hogberg]

TDA can burn too - quite competently in fact, at least on my system.
If the authoring app just delivers the VIDEO_TS + AUDIO_TS folders, I create an ISO image of them with imgTools classic, then burn the image with DVDDecrypter (or imgburn). Like the rest, I can just chirp in in the choir: Don't involve Nero in your video process.

/Mats

[ROF]

Oddly enough I use TMPGenc DVD Author as my authoring APP and use Nero 6 or now 7 to burn my projects. Nero hasn't let me down when the video has been successfully processed through TMPGenc DVD Author. It should be noted I am not using the free version of either application so your mileage may vary.

[psx_pirate]

the trial versions of both TMPGenc applications are fully functional .... they will do exactly the same as payed versions except you can only use them for 30 days (the one exception is that in the trial version of TMPGenc 3.0 xpress the batch conversion tools will not function ... but you can still convert files one at a time)

if you are going to use TDA to author then you may as well use it to burn the disk too ... once it has finished authoring just click the burn button and it will do the job for you without you having to select any settings or import any files etc

since i did the conversion of that avi i have purchased TMPGenc 3.0 xpress and TDA as well as the ac3 plugin app for these software titles ... TDA uses the same burn engine as Recordnow max (sonic software)

[FulciLives]

The OP was warned, a moderator took care of it, end of that discussion.

nothing was taken care of if I can just come back and do it again. This post doesn't even pretend to hide the fact that we are still talking about rented movies and with a wink and a nod it's ok?

The AUP is only good when it is enforced. Otherwise...game on!

...am i now in breach of national security? 8)

Exactly my thoughts and hence my reason to make it even more clear with the link to the LOCKED thread.

Not only does this person turn around and post with hardly any delay time at all but then is STUPID enough to make a reference to the LOCKED thread and give the wink wink oh shucks thing.

Bullshit.

We shouldn't help this leech.

The proper thing would have been to wait at least a couple of days then post a new thread and make no mention of the old thread or any of that wink wink bullshit.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

*** EDITED FOR STUPID SPELLING MISTAKES ***

[ROF]

The proper thing would have been to wait at least a couple of days then post a new thread and make no mention of the old thread or any of that wink wink bullshit.

Actually, the proper thing would be to help someone out with a completely unrelated matter instead of continuing to post in a topic you obviously take offense to for some odd reason. The OP referenced the original post in a more apologetic manner. I see no wink wink or ah shucks at all. As a matter of fact if you read the now locked topic the OP was making a reference to some other types of activities completely unrelated to that and this topic. There is no leeching occuring here or there. If the OP is actually talking about recording rental movies with a MiniDV and wanting to convert the DVD it be one of the most extreme forms of avoiding copyright I've seen in all my years of video related topics. Pointing a MiniDV at a video output device and recording is surely a very inefficient method of recording.

Again, if you can't add anything positive to helping someone solve a problem completely unrelated to the violation for which the OP received a yellow card for I guess that would be considered something along the lines of harassment of a member here which I believe is a violation of the AUP and can result in the person doing the harassment being permanently banned. I'm quite sure you don't want to continue your current line of thought.

[FulciLives]

[quote="ROF"]

Again, if you can't add anything positive to helping someone solve a problem completely unrelated to the violation for which the OP received a yellow card for I guess that would be considered something along the lines of harassment of a member here which I believe is a violation of the AUP and can result in the person doing the harassment being permanently banned. I'm quite sure you don't want to continue your current line of thought.

I don't like threats even if they come with a smiley face.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[mastersmurfie]

I'm gonna go out on a wild tangent here...but oh well

I have an old Philips DVD711 player (that I used to use...daughter still uses it in her room--I have since bought a new player...)

This player would NOT play any burned DVD-R that was burned with less than 4GB on the disc (not necessarily at least a 4GB movie...but anything less than 4GB on the disc)

If the "movie" that I was burning ended up being less than 4GB, I had to add *something* to the root of the DVD for it to play...otherwise, it would just spit the disc out after reading it for a bit...

I made what I called "pad" files...and added them to the root of the DVD before burning.

Backed up DVDs (using Decrypter and DVD Shrink) were no problem, as I could typically make them be at least the 4GB needed. Other stuff (home movies converted, vid clips, etc...) were a problem for the player.

Again, going out on a wild one here, but it never hurts to check all the angles...

[mats.hogberg]

We shouldn't help this leech.

You don't have to.
I asked nicely before, to keep this thread on topic. I ask again. The next poster not keeping 100% on topic will recieve a yellow. If that's hard to undertand, please PM me, and I'll explain.
Use PM for 1 on 1 conversations too.

/Mats

[hech54]

What does:
DVD not player in older player as the title of this thread mean anyways?




I don't get it.

[GreenStang511]

It was suppose to be DVD not Playing in Older Player...oops a typo.

I want to thank everyone who has been helpful on this board. I have to try some of these tools and suggestions out this weekend. I'll let you all know what I try and how it goes.

Oh and to clear things up, I'm a computer programer...so I not stupid, and I am at the computer all day. Second I'm a decent person. Yes, I even go to church. Third, I started all this because I am learning to use my miniDV to take movies of my kid who is coming in about 5 days.

So FulciLives, you waste precious min out of my day reading your posts. Please go type somewhere else and listen when people say to stay on topic. Oh and thanks for calling me a leech...what are you 5 years old?

[GreenStang511]

mastersmurfie

I thought of that too but in a different way. I didn't think that I would need a full disc of data but wondered if my small 4 min clip, of my cats, wouldn't be enough for the player to read.

[mats.hogberg]

thanks for calling me a leech...what are you 5 years old?

Ouch! Try to avoid spilling any more blood now, you too! And stay on topic!

/Mats

[mats.hogberg]

I think some players require a certain amount of data on the DVD (1 GB?) to work properly. Think there was (is?) even a setting in Nero to ensure this.

/Mats