Capturing in Vegas

[hiptune]

Hi, I am using Vegas 5 for most of my capturing and editing now.

I noticed that in capture, the default is set to "good" in both Video and Audio in the properties tab. This is easy to switch to "best" as a no brainer, and as it is in the rendering tab also.

But I noticed that the audio has a tab for sample rate, and it is set to 44,100. At render tab it is set to 48,000. I just wanted to know why Vegas would start with red book (type) audio at capture rather than the 48,000 which is standard for dv/avi, and then convert to it at render.

Looks to me like resampling. And why am I asked if I want only "good" quality of audio capture/render? It can't save much space if it is already 44,100/16. Render PCM at lesser quality as in how?

I guess just stick to best and best at 48,000/16 setting.

[edDV]

I guess just stick to best and best at 48,000/16 setting.

Those are Project settings not capture settings and 48k/16 audio is what you should have. Make sure your camcorder is set to 48k/16 before you record the video. If you have it in 32k/12bit mode, Vegas will transfer it that way but will convert to project settings (e.g. 48k/16) when the video is added and rendered in the time line.

[hiptune]

I guess just stick to best and best at 48,000/16 setting.

Those are Project settings not capture settings and 48k/16 audio is what you should have. Make sure your camcorder is set to 48k/16 before you record the video. If you have it in 32k/12bit mode, Vegas will transfer it that way but will convert to project settings (e.g. 48k/16) when the video is added and rendered in the time line.

Thank you. Good thing I found out about this now rather than much later.

[slacker]

Hi, I am using Vegas 5 for most of my capturing and editing now.

I noticed that in capture, the default is set to "good" in both Video and Audio in the properties tab. This is easy to switch to "best" as a no brainer, and as it is in the rendering tab also.

Vegas is trying to save you some time. In 90% of cases, GOOD will render equal to BEST quality-wise minus the painfully extended rendering times. i recommend reading the manual and visiting the Vegas discussion groups. I've never had to use BEST when rendering well shot DV.

But I noticed that the audio has a tab for sample rate, and it is set to 44,100. At render tab it is set to 48,000. I just wanted to know why Vegas would start with red book (type) audio at capture rather than the 48,000 which is standard for dv/avi, and then convert to it at render.

I understand the Japanese prefer 44k 12b (honestly!) and this may have something to do with this being the DEFAULT, both for Vegas, as well as for Japanese manufactured camcorders in general. First thing I did with my new camcorder is switch it to 48k 16b.

[hiptune]

Hi, I am using Vegas 5 for most of my capturing and editing now.

I noticed that in capture, the default is set to "good" in both Video and Audio in the properties tab. This is easy to switch to "best" as a no brainer, and as it is in the rendering tab also.

Vegas is trying to save you some time. In 90% of cases, GOOD will render equal to BEST quality-wise minus the painfully extended rendering times. i recommend reading the manual and visiting the Vegas discussion groups. I've never had to use BEST when rendering well shot DV.

I am trying to compete on a larger scale. I want to make it as an editor and also make some money mastering things to disc. I really should hang at the Vegas forum more. And I like this site well too.

I tend to max out all settings to their fullest. I don't mind waiting longer for encodes if I can sleep at night knowing I did my absolute best. Sometimes I am doing a demo reel for Dir's. of Photography. I must show that mine is better than what was done by someone else earlier. DPs are the most critical obviously. So I am getting my feet wet with the best of them. I think a person doing this stuff should want the very best. It takes so long to learn this stuff, time money involved...then to accept "good" when you can select "best"?

Sorry, but I'm a tortured perfectionist, and I did learn that about myself long ago. It's too late to turn back now.

[slacker]

hiptune,

My point was that the BEST in Vegas can be accomplished using the GOOD setting the majority of the time. Very rarely do you need to use the BEST setting. If you have the personal time, experiment. If you have tons of computer time, then don't worry about it and use the BEST setting. For me, though, the setting hasn't made a difference. Occasionally, I have tight deadlines, and honestly don't have the time to waste.

There is such a thing as overkill, spending additional resources (labor, computer time, money, utility costs, etc.) for no real return (ROI), bad economics in my book.

BTW, I'm a perfectionist by nature as well, but as I have aged (this is called wisdom) I have learned that even perfection is relative, not absolute. I'm always re-evaluating my DEFINITION OF PERFECTION. And, of course, the process MUST always be fun!

Just my opinion!

[hiptune]

hiptune,

My point was that the BEST in Vegas can be accomplished using the GOOD setting the majority of the time. Very rarely do you need to use the BEST setting.

When does it make a difference, and when does it not? A bit more detail please.

[slacker]

Out of Vegas 6.0c material...

Unless you have specific performance problems, choose Good. Choosing Best can dramatically increase rendering times.

Good uses bilinear scaling without integration, while Best uses bicubic scaling with integration. If you're using high-resolution stills (or video) that will be scaled down to the final output size, choosing Best can prevent artifacts.

Otherwise, I don't suggest using it!

[hiptune]

Well, I am using High Resolution video (originally digibeta).

And it's nice to know what bilinear scaling & bicubic scaling with integration is.....great!

At any rate, I can't take any chances with my projects, I encode while sleeping anyway.

My DVDs look really great, and I am sticking with the top setting all the way. But thanks for looking that up, I do appreciate it.

I also encode at "mastering" setting, and a high bit rate comonly 8200kbs, and ac3 also set way higher than anyone else thinks you need. But that is just me, crazy that I need to do that I know. Oh well.

[slacker]

Good luck kiddo!

[hiptune]

Good luck kiddo!

Oh how dissapointing, I was hoping you'd take my sly hint and tell us what "bilinear scaling & bicubic scaling with integration" is.

Cause that's the whole science behind the art of it babe!