Premiere Pro to Quicktime 7?

[foochuck]

Hello I'm using Premiere Pro 1.5 on Windows XP Pro.

I'd like to export my edit to a Quicktime 7 - mp4 file that is playable on my iPod video. I've purchased quicktime 7 and I'm not sure if I can export from Premiere Pro to quicktime 7 format or if I have to export from Premiere Pro into another format first...Ideally I'd like to export from Premiere Pro to Quicktime 7 in one step...is this possible?

Foochuck

[ozymango]

It's definitely do-able, what's your budget?

Seriously, all you need to do is install Debugmode Frameserver (free download) that'll let you frameserve (natch!) from Premiere into your encoding program, where you have set the output for Quicktime. The only hitch is, your encoding software has to be able to handle the Quicktime plugin as an output, and I don't know off hand of any free programs that do this.

But the $60 version of Canopus Procoder handles Quicktime output, plus it's just a very nice encoder all the way around, so if you spring the $$$ for that, then you'd just need to:

1) Create project in Premiere, frameserve the "avi" file from inside Premiere using Debugmode.
2) Open the resulting "avi" in Procoder (or whatever encoder you find that works for Quicktime), set the output for Quicktime mp4, hit the "start" button, and voila, you're done.

I took a quick look through the Tools section here to see if there was a freeware front-end for an encoder that could handle Quicktime output (being you already have the codec), but didn't find anything. But it might be worth digging for one, if you're cheap, like me!

EDIT: Okay, forget using Procoder, you can do it but it requires a bunch of funky tweaking and making your own template; the .mov qt video it produces is not by default set to mp4, but 3ggp or some other nonsense that won't work for you easily. Drat.

BUT, apparently Xilisoft has a $35 converter that'll do a very easy "save as ipod video" feature, so the first step still stands -- do the Premiere stuff, frameserve using Debugmode, then open that temporary avi file in Xilisoft Video Converter and save as iPod video. You can download a free trial of the converter but it only does five minutes, apparently. But if it looks decent it may be worth it to you. Good luck, and hoped I helped in here somewhere!

[foochuck]

Actually I was able to render an AVI file from my Premiere project and then open that AVI in quicktime and export it to a m4v file. I would however like to alleviate one of these steps and just go directly from Premiere to Quicktime.

[ozymango]

Actually I was able to render an AVI file from my Premiere project and then open that AVI in quicktime and export it to a m4v file. I would however like to alleviate one of these steps and just go directly from Premiere to Quicktime.

No, that was what I was trying to do actually, despite all the verbage -- when you use Debugmode you don't actually create an AVI file, you just create a "virtual" AVI file (in name only) that then "serves" the output from Premiere directly into your encoder. So you are saving a step, there's no real AVI file created, you don't need to spend any time converting to a "real" AVI. Make sense? Sort of?

Actually I think I made this even harder then it is. Try this:

1) Do your Premiere stuff, install Debugmode; inside Premiere, when you go to save the file, you can choose "Debugmode frameserver" as a file type.

2) Save your file as an "Avi" -- it's not really a full AVI, it's just the header and the info needed to "fake out" the encoder into thinking you've got a full AVI file.

3) Then open this bogus avi file/header/whatever in Quicktime and save as iPod video. I think that should do it.

Again, you are not creating an actual stand-alone AVI file doing it this way, you're just creating a "link" between Premiere and Quicktime to get the file moved across without the intermediate step of a "real" AVI.

Is that any better? I'm trying!

[Cornucopia]

Only problem with that is that both Premiere and QT are resource hogs and by going with frameserving you have to have both running. This eats into your compress time efficiency.

Scott

[foochuck]

Actually I was able to render an AVI file from my Premiere project and then open that AVI in quicktime and export it to a m4v file. I would however like to alleviate one of these steps and just go directly from Premiere to Quicktime.

No, that was what I was trying to do actually, despite all the verbage -- when you use Debugmode you don't actually create an AVI file, you just create a "virtual" AVI file (in name only) that then "serves" the output from Premiere directly into your encoder. So you are saving a step, there's no real AVI file created, you don't need to spend any time converting to a "real" AVI. Make sense? Sort of?

Actually I think I made this even harder then it is. Try this:

1) Do your Premiere stuff, install Debugmode; inside Premiere, when you go to save the file, you can choose "Debugmode frameserver" as a file type.

2) Save your file as an "Avi" -- it's not really a full AVI, it's just the header and the info needed to "fake out" the encoder into thinking you've got a full AVI file.

3) Then open this bogus avi file/header/whatever in Quicktime and save as iPod video. I think that should do it.

Again, you are not creating an actual stand-alone AVI file doing it this way, you're just creating a "link" between Premiere and Quicktime to get the file moved across without the intermediate step of a "real" AVI.

Is that any better? I'm trying!

I will give this a try...thanks for the help and happy thanksgiving.