No Pre-owned games for PS3

[SilverBlade]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27568


This would kill the rental industry for this console...
This would kill PS3 within a year. Good luck with this one Sony, I'd rather stick to PC anyways.

[lumis]

no way they're going to do this.

like it was mentioned in the article..

when you wore out your laser and or your ps3 got dropped/broken/burned/etc or stolen, all your games would be useless..

[suppafreak]

Gamers will just start buying the new XBOX.

[mbellot]

Looks like Sony is really trying to commit suicide... Twenty years too late, but hey who can argue.


Now if only they could get ahold of Apple and make it a murder/suicide things would really start looking up

[Tidy]

Please tell me you don't buy this crap. This article is nothing but a load of supposition. Do you have any ideas how many patents are granted around the world that never come to market? Don't put too much stock in the phrase "the most obvious place to use it is in the PS/3".

Jesus I don't think Sony is going to reengineer the optical and software systems in the PS/3 within 8 months of release just so they can put in this ridiculous technologythat would cost them so much to administer it would probably recreate the loss due to piracy.

It makes no sense......think about it

[Faustus]

Went ahead and moved to off topic. Its hardly news, its PURE rumor. Analized from any point of view it would hurt the PS3 and alot of other companies in the process. IT would seal the 360 as the defactor winner of this generation.

[MackemX]

don't these big companies make enough money anyway?

if they ever pulled crap like this then their profits will probably suffer

greedy bastards!

[lordsmurf]

Pure rumor.
Waste of an article.
Waste of time to read it.

Just a waste all around.

[adam]

Well as already mentioned, due to the time frame I can't see how this could possibly be implemented into the PS3 and its just a patent application anyway, but even still I kept reading that patent application trying to find where I was going wrong but it really is intended to prohibit sales of used video games. That just seems so insane, but I checked and used video game selling is actually illegal in some parts of the world like Japan.

[lumis]

adam,

does that apply to optical/magnetic media only? or does that include cartridges (nintendo) too?

[adam]

Reading the patent, it looks like it only applies to optical media. I'm saying this based on how the technology works itself. So I'm not for sure since that stuff is over my head.

As for laws prohibiting sales of used video games, its based on the lack of application of the first sale doctrine which basically says that once sold the creator loses the right to place restrictions on anyone but the first purchaser. So you can limit distribution initially, but then once sold that individual can sell it just about anyway they want. In Japan, the first sale doctrine does not apply to cinematographic works and they also classify video games in this category as well. Don't ask me why, it seems even their courts can't figure it out, but that's the way it is.

http://law.vanderbilt.edu/jelp/archive/vol6no1/DanRose-NewVideoGame.pdf

So those countries that prohibit or control (require royalties) used game selling probably don't distinguish between optical and cartridge based games.

[Doramius]

Maybe it's a patent that'll be implemented in Japanese PS3s only. WHY?- would be the question.

In Hind-sight, it would kill the company, YES, but the market for bootleg copies would seriously grow immensely. Think of it this way, you run the game once in a computer and save to HDD, burn a few copies to disc, then hack/mod-chip the PS3. Pirating would grow so far out of control, it would be too difficult to monitor even moderate pirating people. You could only go for the megas-mass pirater.

As far as being able to jurisdict something of that magnatude, it would be similar to an area that has a 55MPH speed limit, but everyone goes 15-20MPH over the limit, so the law is not as striclty enforced, unless something major happens. (IE: you get in an accident & then they cite you for speeding). As rare as it is, it does happen in this matter in many different areas and for different things.

Again, it would be a company suicide, IF IT EVER CAME TRUE. But it would severely reform how bootlegged games & movies are looked at.

------IMO------

[adam]

Maybe it's a patent that'll be implemented in Japanese PS3s only. WHY?- would be the question.

Well if that were the case I don't think they'd bother filing for a US patent. It wouldn't do them any good.

Who knows what they plan on using this for. It seems useless to me. The patent description does contemplate using it on a large scale though. That would just be suicide in the US.

[Doramius]

It's a US PATENT? I didn't catch that.
Something major sounds like it is in the works. Of course it may be a bit more stretched out & planned for over time. I'm doubting it'll happen with the PS3, but who knows. Something is definitely in motion if they are doing a mighty brave step like this patent.

The PSP is becoming a bit popular, but I've heard the movie sales for it aren't as high as they were expecting. The UMD movies only play on the PSP and you can't play a regular DVD on the PSP. It has the mp4 transfer capability, but whoa, what a space taker. It's good for clips and a few movies, but not really a capability to back-up any movies. I'm better off bringing a protable DVD player and a Disc-Binder. 80+ movies at my fingertips.

PSP has got some potential if they allow it to accept standard DVD media. There's more, but I dont want to threadjack, THAT MUCH. :P

[adam]

Sony officially denies this will be used on the PS3. In other news, millions of people simultaneously say, "I told you so."

http://joystiq.com/entry/1234000213068073

[Faustus]

Make that millions and Me. I hate all those other guys and refuse to be lumped in with them.

[Doramius]

The oddest thing is I'm not exactly sure where Sony stands on Copyright infringment. They support the RIAA, MPAA, and various game copryright agencies. They do crack down on illegal pirating, ESPECIALLY in music recording. However, they have place several patents out and not used them, as well as allowed many fairly old games to be pirated on a low level. Maybe I'm following it poorly, but I'm gathering that they are about to do something from a total power standpoint FOR copyright agencies. OR they are trying to allow a minor level of pirating, possibly making money in the way of selling items that allow people to pirate these various areas of media.

Sony seems like they are one of the first or top companies to allow people a way to copy record, or duplicate anything out on the market.