Do you still capture

[qlizard]

For those who are transfering VHS using a DVD recorder, do you sometimes also capture and encode VHS material using your computer? How much do you use one vs. the other? Under what circumstances and why? do you see a quality difference?

[redwudz]

I don't technically 'capture', but I use my ADVC-100 to copy some of my VHS tapes. It allows me to use filtering and DV is easy to edit. I use the DVD recorder mostly for time shifting and for TV programs I want to backup.

I use Virtual Dub Mod for DV editing and MPEG Video Wizard for MPEG editing.

For me, it comes down to how much editing/filtering I need to do. That decides which unit to use for VHS tapes.

[BobK]

For those who are transfering VHS using a DVD recorder, do you sometimes also capture and encode VHS material using your computer? How much do you use one vs. the other? Under what circumstances and why? do you see a quality difference?

I started using a DVD recorder about a year ago. I've only used the computer to capture a couple times since then. Main reason is the quality if much better using the recorder. It also doesn't tie up the computer.

[somebodeez]

Capping w/my PC is the only way I've ever done it (and still do).

I don't have a recorder and judging by the way it seems to be going with those,
https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=292722
I might not bother getting one.

[ktnwin]

Yes, I did it both ways and select the PC or DVD recorder method based on the following criteria:
PC method if
1) I want some video editing capabiltiies (add transitions, title , multi level menus, etc...)
2) the DVD recorder refuses to record the tape (no choice here)

DVD recorder method if
1) the VHS tapes have been edited or are in a "final" form
2) I want to get a DVD quickly from the tapes (with possibly simple editing such as cutting off unwanted scenes)
3) I want to capture and save TV shows
4) the video is more than 90 mins and less than 3 hours.

In general, the PC method produces a more "professional looking" DVD disc, however it's limited to about 90 minutes in length for good quality video. With the DVD recorder, I can get as much as nearly 3 hours of good quality video.

[yoda313]

however it's limited to about 90 minutes in length for good quality video.

What bitrates do you use? Have you tried halfd1 for longer dvds? I'd say you can get a lot more than 90 minutes to look decent on a pc capture. Depending on the source of course.

I only do pc captures and like it just fine. Though now with my hdtv capture card I can get excellent proquality dvds off of hd broadcasts

[otpw1]

I use my ILO dvdr04 as a capture device. The computer always burns the final disc. The dvd recorder removes much of the P.I.T.A. that I used to experience with my all-in-wonder card.

[ofbarea]

I have a Panasonic DMR-ES10 DVD recorder, ADS PYRO A/V Link and an ATI All In Wonder Radeon 8500DV that I use for my captures.

What to use depends on the source material and the time I have for applying filters.

Due the quality limitations of the DMR-ES10, I only use it for captures of maximum 2 hours 30 minutes long. Everything longer than that is captured in the computer.

Bad quality VHS, 8 mm sources are captured in the PC for additional filtering with the help of the A/V Link.

For quick captures of good quality VHS, 8 mm, Digital 8 and sometimes laser disc sources I just use the DMR-ES10.

Most TV shows are usually recorded in the DMR-ES10 but I also use the AIW 8500DV for cartoons.

Stuff that I want to keep in the best possible quality is captured through the PYRO A/V Link, saved in a DV AVI type 1 and cleaned with Virtualdub, Then TMPGEnc is used for MPEG2 rendering and usually TMPGEnv DVD Author with AC3 plug-in is used for authoring the DVD.

Finally the DVD recorder is useful for recording closed captioned videos.

[spectroelectro]

I have a JVC DRM10 and a Canopus ADVC100 and an el cheapo LeadTek WinFast TV PCI capture card on which I swapped out the DV codec for the MainConcept DV codec. I use all 3 depending.

Most of the time I use the JVC DRM10. Probably 80% of the time. The LeadTek ignores all forms of copy protection, so I use that if I need to bypass macrovision, and I also use the LeadTek if I need to capture into Huffyuv and do heavy-duty noise reduction with virtualdub. I use the LeadTek maybe 15% of the time or so.

I don't use the Canopus ADVC100 very much anymore. It's still useful, but most of what I used to do with the Canopus has been taken over by JVC DVD recorder in real time. I use the Canopus if some very fine-grained editing with transitions needs to be done. Otherwise, if only cut edits are required (say, cutting out commercials from a TV show) I'll capture using the JVC DVD recorder and edit commercials out of the DVD-R/W using Womble.