what is vivo??????????????

[swiss]

i was looking at video cards and saw vivo, i know it stands for video in video out but what is that. what type of funcionalities does it have and is it even worth buying. hows the capture basically and info any has on it please share and the card i was looking at is this one right here http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-125-152&depa=1
thanks

[reboot]

Yes, it's a capture card/video card all in one.
What happens when you want to upgrade your video card though? You gonna buy another capture card to go with it?

[lordsmurf]

Only video game nerds have super need to "upgrade" the video cards all the time. Something like the 9000 series ATI cards shown here will do pretty much anything you want, with the exception of a couple uber-nerd games. Few people ever have need to replace the graphics cards, often they replace the whole computer before just swapping graphics cards. Even demanding 3D work software will be just fine with these cards.

ATI AIW/VIVO ... some of the best cards you can get. Very high quality graphics, very high quality video captures.

VIVO = video in, video out

[TheFamilyMan]

VIVO refers to the interface connector that the graphics card uses to input and output analog video signal. This connector uses a dongle the breaks out into 4 connectors, 2 video composite and 2 s-video. One of each type of is used for input, and the other are used for output. A video capture application captures video from a video device that is attached to either the composite or s-video input. Audio must be captured in tandem with the video using a sound card; most capture applications have no problem doing both at the same time. Likewise, you can connect the video out connector to a TV or VCR; audio is provided by the sound card. The behavior of the video output is controlled by your monitor output settings. I hope this helps. I use VIVO and am statisfied. Its advantage is you get two capabilities, AGP and video capture, in one card. I don't know enough to know any disadvantages, though there has to be some.

[swiss]

does it have a tv tuner , or is it just video in. i already have a tv wonder ve, will this card will replace it or will i still need it to watch tv.

[lordsmurf]

does it have a tv tuner , or is it just video in. i already have a tv wonder ve, will this card will replace it or will i still need it to watch tv.

AIW has tuner.
VE card is new paperweight.

[TheFamilyMan]

VIVO does not include a TV tuner. AIW (All-in-wonder) does. TV Wonder VE has analog video capture. Unless you tried it and did not like it, you really should not need to buy another video capture device. If you are really looking for a new video (AGP) card, I suggest that you don't need VIVO or AIW since your VE should do video captures just fine.

[DEC]

If you do get an AIW, I believe you can still use the VE and have picture in picture on your pc.

[swiss]

aiw cost $$$$ and im on a small budget. the cards i was looking at cost $66 which is around my price range. is there another card that anyone can recommend that cost under $100

[lordsmurf]

Use a VCR for the tuner.

[Gurm]

*ahem*

VIVO also was a video format a few years back. Remember the Vivoactive Powerplayer? Yikes!

Also, the company that made that video format ALSO made some camera/capture/etc. cards and packages.

Just providing historical reference.

[zoobie]

I'm in the same boat...and think this low end card would be good enuf to capture analog to mpeg2.

[reboot]

There's a ton of capture cards around. From about $20 up. For casual capture and TV viewing, you don't need much.
Few of them will capture to mpeg-2 directly with any success. Better to capture with a "lossless" codec to avi, and encode.

[zoobie]

Has anyone actually used the radeon 9250 vivo or is this all conjecture?Couldn't find any reviews.
I found it for $53 + shipping
Thx

[rabg]

Hi vivo is what the seven dwarfs sang going to work

VIVO ,VIVO ITS OF TO WORK WE GO LOL.




Rabg

[zoobie]

After researching this card, I didn't find much.

Using model number GV-R925128VH it appears Gigabite is a 3rd party knock-off of ATI. Some pics show it to have DVI & d-sub displays (better than most AIW's) while others show only d-sub.

I found 3 different specs with Gigabite having the least of all. The Gigabite 9250 and ATI 9250 seem to be different cards.

I came across one review at newegg I think that has a rating of 5 stars with 6 votes cast and 1 review which was very favorable.

I don't think anyone here...or at least anyone reading these general threads...has actually used this card.

Maybe you could start a new thread with this card as the title and someone would see it and comment.

[lordsmurf]

After researching this card, I didn't find much..........I don't think anyone here...or at least anyone reading these general threads...has actually used this card..

You must have missed this....
This is from the images on newegg...



While that could be something else, not very likely.

Nobody has to actually use "this card" to know how it acts. If you've used one ATI RADEON-based card, you've used them all (more or less). I've used at least 5-6 cards of this range, and they are all the same in performance. Only gaming nerds notice the "better graphics" between 7000-9800. All the video/theatre chips act the same.

Anyway, as the image shows, this does indeed have the ATI THEATRE chipset, and is therefore excellent quality video. And it has a 9000 series graphics core. Pretty self explanatory, thanks to newegg descriptions, titles and images.

If you can afford this card, get it.

The only "unknown" is whether it can really use ATI MMC or not. I forget whether some of the other ATI AIW clones could use it or not.

There is clearly no tuner, the hardware is not on it.

[zoobie]

Ok...You like the Theatre chip...cool.
I'll take a cheapo with DVI out.

[lordsmurf]

Ok...You like the Theatre chip...cool.
I'll take a cheapo with DVI out.

My ATI AIW 7200 (32MB DDR) has DVI out.
You can find those on eBay for $40-50 quite often.
Save even more bucks.

[Gurm]

Virtually ALL Radeon cards in the past year or so have been "third party knock-offs". ATI doesn't fab their own cards any more. "Built by ATI" are just higher-quality Sapphire (I think it's Sapphire) cards nowadays. Gigabyte cards are quite nice, actually.

The 9250 is a R2x0 core card, just fine for last year's games... and the VIVO on it will be about as good as you'll get without spending hundreds on a dedicated card.

[zoobie]

I came back to say a couple of things with these cards.

First, it probably depends on if you want dual heads, the theatre chip, and s-video. I know I do.
The Gigabite 9250 Pro ($53 new) has dual heads and s-video in/out but not the higher quality theatre chip.
The Rage Fury Pro 128 that lordsmurf showed us appears to have dual heads with the theatre chip...but ATI elected to have composite in/out only with no s-video...even going as far as saying there was no difference in s-video and composite (see my thread "s-video vs composite").
I think some of the higher priced late model AIW may provide dual heads, the theatre chip, s-video, and composite...but at additional cost which was the OP's concern.
It appears the Gigabite 9250 Pro would be slightly inferior because it lacks the theatre chip...and once again...it depends what you want in terms of quality. It's probably fine for low end general use.
I've been reading up on this now for 2 weeks and it's total information overload. You have to actually look at each ATI card and their 3rd party manufactureres (Sapphire and Gigabite) because each is usually a different card.

This is insane...

[zoobie]

bumped for comments

[lordsmurf]

It appears the Gigabite 9250 Pro would be slightly inferior because it lacks the theatre chip...

What? The ATI RAGE THEATRE is the THEATRE 100 series chip.
Shown in the images in my last post above.

[Sturge33]

I have an ECS Radeon 9250 VIVO in my wife's computer and an ATI AIW 9600xt in mine. The 9250 would not capture video period. I had nothing but headaches trying to get it to work. I went so far as to even format the hard drive and reinstall everything and had the same problems. That's when I decided to give it to my wife and get the 9600xt for myself. The 9600xt works like a dream. I love it. I suppose the 9250 could possibly be defective somehow, or it could be that it's a third-party "value priced" card. If you get one, I would look for the actual ATI brand.

[zoobie]

It appears the Gigabite 9250 Pro would be slightly inferior because it lacks the theatre chip...

What? The ATI RAGE THEATRE is the THEATRE 100 series chip.
Shown in the images in my last post above.

Sorry...My bad. I've read so much crap (see below) in the past 2 weeks, not sure of anything anymore.

ATI [Rage Fury Pro 128] opted not to include an s-video connector for video capture as the quality difference between composite and s-video capture is non-existent with the high quality RAGE Theatre multimedia chip.

[ProperRogue]

I'm also looking at this card, and yes, I realize this thread is over 6mos. old.

What I'm curious about, if anyone knows, is how this card will behave in conjunction with a Hauppauge PVR-250? This is what I'm currently using for capture, and my only main reason for buying the Gigabyte is for a good card with VideoOut.

Right now , I'm using the PVR-250 with an older GeForce card, and I just wanted to upgrade the agp card.

Would I experience any problems with driver conflicts or anything like that using the ATI? Would I still be able to use the PVR-250 as my main card for capture/recording?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.