CRT monitor or LCD?

[Rivers]

My 6 year old crt monitor's picture is jumping and quivering on the right of the picture, I assume its on its way out? Should I replace it with another crt or LCD?
I mainly use this pc for surfing and photo editing. What do you think?

[Conquest10]

CRT
EDIT: What type of photo editing? Snapshots? I so, then it doesn't matter. LCD cuz they look cooler

[Rivers]

Yes, nothing serious on the photo editing, I do video editing on the laptop. What sort of price would you pay? Obviously dirt cheap stuff is crap but over £200?

[Conquest10]

I would say probably minimum of 300?

[waheed]

CRT have better resolution.
LCD look cooler but are mainly for saving desk space.

[shelbyGT]

if price is a factor, CRT.

[Conquest10]

if price is a factor, CRT.

And image quality. CRTs are still the best but some people don't like the big, bulky things that produce so much heat.

LCDs are better if you really need the extra space and I've heard they are easier on the eyes when reading text all day on them.

The Apple Cinema displays are pretty great as far as LCDs go for quality but are $800 for the cheapest and still can't beat my cheap CRT for image quality (resolution it could but its fixed as we all know what it is to run non-native on an LCD).

[Rivers]

Thanks folks, I do find myself preferring the display of digital snaps on the crt than on the lcd of the laptop. The pics seem more vivid and have a depth about them

[rallynavvie]

Even the high-end LCDs aren't comparable in quality to mid-range CRTs. Also that whole "native resolution" thing with LCDs scares the crap outta me. CRTs have faster refresh as well, despite what some LCD owners say regarding the tech behind LCD.

[guns1inger]

text only - LCD
anything else - CRT

[stiltman]

CRT, benefits list above. Plus you have an extra shelf for papers and stuff

I have a great 21" shelf on my desk

[tenders]

well i just bought a lcd the other day and to me its awesome!! much better than crt. space saving, easier on the eyes, and everything looks way better.

and expensive is NOT always better. mine was only $150 CAN.

you can adjust the refresh rate...but on lcd's its not really required.

i'd say very few people in this thread actually own one, so don't reply to things you don't know about eh!

[stiltman]

OK, eh!

I've had 3 different LCDs and not one of them could match my CRT

[waheed]

I still say CRT is better. It has better resolution.

And by the way, i own a 17" LCD which cost just under £400 2 years ago.

Im running at 1280 X 1240 pixels at 75 Hertz (max supported).

[tenders]

there is always quality issues with whatever you buy. lcd's have come along way in two years.

@stiltman if you prefer crt's..thats fine. for me lcd's far exceed crt's

[Shocker Milwaukee]

everything looks way better.

No, it doesn't... but thanks for sharing.

[tenders]

everything looks way better.

No, it doesn't... but thanks for sharing.

it does to me, and i have tried everything from digital photos, dvd, ripped dvd, 3d app creations etc.

are you going to elaborate on that shocker?

[Shocker Milwaukee]

are you going to elaborate on that shocker?

No, it's common knowledge.

[tenders]

are you going to elaborate on that shocker?

No, it's common knowledge.

if that was true...then this whole thread wouldn't exist...

anyway..thanks for your non contribution.

[rallynavvie]

Uh, hello?

native resolution

Enough said

[tenders]

Uh, hello?

native resolution

Enough said

Uh, hello? native resolution just means that is what the monitor is optimized for...it does not mean you have to stick to it.

enough with the riddles. if you got something to say..then say it!!

its no wonder i rarely come here anymore. this place used to be full of friendly advice, and their was always a good explanation that came with a comment.


i'm pretty sure that this web site was created to help people and not supply them with riddles. so there is some big secret i do not know about lcd's? a simple link would suffice if its too much trouble for you to type it out. if you asked a question in one of the forums...how would you feel if you recieved these kind of resonses??

[Conquest10]

OK, for you LCD users, I got a little quiz for you. No cheating, just by looking, which image is solid white?

[shelbyGT]

I cheated, I have a CRT.

[hoyboy]

i have both-a 17 inch lg studioworks monitor about 3 years old and a 15 inch lg lcd about 7 months old. i was just going to use the lcd for lan nights, but since using it i have made it my main monitor as it totally kicks the crt in terms of brightness and resolution, as well i don't need to wear my glasses as my eyes don't get tired now. i love my lcd
btw it's the second panel

[rallynavvie]

Uh, hello? native resolution just means that is what the monitor is optimized for...it does not mean you have to stick to it.

If you run the resolution at anything other than native the display has to interpolate the image across more or less pixels depending on if you set it to higher or lower than its optimal resolution. Say you have an LCD that is 1024x768. It has 1024x768 physical pixels on that display, so if you try to run higher resolution on that display, say 1600x1200, some of the image data is getting dropped completely or "resampled" to match the resolution (I think most are using nearest neighbor resampling). CRTs don't have physical pixels, the tubes decide how many "pixels" you see on the display so a CRT can handle any resolution the tubes can handle without having to resample the image at all.

And yes, the folks here are helping people out by putting down myths and stereotypes that people sometimes post in here. There are still advantages to LCDs that people have posted here such as the power, space, and heat they save over CRTs. They will certainly last longer than a CRT as long as you can deal with the occasional dead pixels. They're getting better at their limited viewing range and refresh rates too, but a good CRT will still beat a good LCD for color matching and never having to worry about ghosting. I have an Apple cinema display at work, one of the better LCDs out there, and moved it off my G5 workstation in favor of the big old Sony FD Trinitron for DCC work. The Apple display is now used for preflighting print jobs. In fact the only color profiles we had set up for our workstations is for CRTs, the company that set up our color spaces said the Apple LCD wouldn't work because it has a bit more limited palette than a CRT. We payed those guys close on $20k to color calibrate all our machines so I'm guessing they know what they're doing.

I think you probably paid a lot of money for your LCD but therefor think it's better than any CRT. This may perhaps be true of CRTs you've owned previously since a really good LCD will look nicer than a crappy CRT in most cases, especially if the tubes are going and the image is getting fuzzy at high refresh. What you may be seeing is simply a placebo effect.

[thecoalman]

and moved it off my G5 workstation in favor of the big old Sony FD Trinitron

Just like my cordless mouse you would have to pry my trinitro from my cold dead hands. Everyone that looks at this monitor usually has the comment somethiong along the lines of "why doesn't mine look like that".

[vitualis]

Conquest: second from the top. And I can see the striped grey pattern easily on my LCD monitor (Hyundai Q17).

I think that even for image editing, for most people it is still easily "good enough". When you factor in the ergonomics, LCD wins hands down for me.

And if you don't spend the majority of your time editing images on your PC (most people don't), you're not really going to notice the quality difference.

Regards.

[Conquest10]

Easily? Damn, on my cheap-ass CRT I can easily see it too but its almost impossible on an Apple Cinema Display. I have to start looking at at different angles to see it.

[b1tchm4gn3t]

Just like my cordless mouse you would have to pry my trinitro from my cold dead hands. Everyone that looks at this monitor usually has the comment something along the lines of "why doesn't mine look like that".

Agreed! I fix alot of computers for people around here and all the time I get the 'wow, that monitor is awesome!' and everytime I ask them what they have.....its a CRT. But IM one to say its personal preference. I only got one because I bought this really huge desk a few months ago, and a CRT would have stuck out right in front of me, so I opted to buy a LCD and wow was I amazed at the picture quality vs. my 3 CRT's. I know Im the envy around here to anyone that has a CRT. Not taunting anyone but I always hear that. And for so many to say it that owns a CRT must mean something! Just my humble oppinion.

[Conquest10]

And for so many to say it that owns a CRT must mean something!

Not really. People in general are idiots.

They are saying that because it looks kewl. Wave of the future!