Advice for printing on dvds...

[werewolf_02]

Hi,

Im going to buy these items from svp:
www.svp.co.uk

Epson R200
Datawrite Titanium (8x) "Full Face" Printable (CMC MAG. AE1)
Satin - Inkjet Fixative Spray
Set of 7 Datasafe/Ridisc branded cartridges for R200/R300

Will these add up to give a good dvd finish and work in most dvd players?

Also, how will I be able to get the exact sizes for printing onto the dvd? Never done this before....

Advice please 8)

[Fandim]

R200 comes with printing software. For Full Face printable, you might want to try an inner diameter of 21-23, and for an outer diameter, 119 seems to work well for most printables.

You might want to make sure your DVD burner lieks CMC Mag AE1. Personally, I've had pretty good luck with the DVD+R's made by CMC, but a LOT of people have had very serious issues with this media ID.

What kind of burner are you using? My main concern, again, is the brand of discs you're purchasing... It could be trouble.

Seth
You might want to try to get a small amount of these first, and test them before ordering in any kind of bulk.

Also, be careful with the spray. If any gets on the bottom of the disc, it will be ruined. The print from an epson R200, in my oppinion, looks good enough on it's own, even without any extra spray, as long as the disc dosnt plan on getting wet.

Another problem with the spray, is if you apply it unevenly, it will look much more unprofessional than just the plain printed face itself, as well as can throw the discs balance off, and again, ruin the disc.

Most ink carts should work OK, even though epson recomends against it (of course, they'd prefer you to buy theirs at 4x the cost). I've only ever had problems with one set of ink cartridges, that I ordered from megatoners.com.

[garryheather]

I'm currently using a full compliment of Ridata cartridges in my R200 and so far so good - especially with SVP's BOGOF offer.

The only issue I found is one of the cyan carts has a small protrusion in the plastic that stops it fitting the print head - but at that price a deft bit of work with a craft knife to trim it off is no great hardship. Oh yes, mine are working without the blue spacer provided under the latch.

If you do happen to get any spray on the data side of the disc, a little isopropynol will remove it just fine.

You might like to check out your DVD player in the lists to the right to see if anyone else has tried those CMC discs in it - it's not just the burner you use, some players are right fussy buggers about what media you feed it. Don't forget SVP do sample packs...

[werewolf_02]

Thanks for the replys

Im using the pioneer 108.
What full printable white dvds would you recommened? :

[e404pnf]

I've used about 250-300 of the Datawrite Titanium’s with CMC MAG.AE1 on my Pioneer 108 with excellent results - not a single coaster . The print quality is also pretty good, I'm using a Canon i865.
I have had great compatibility in standalone DVD players too. In fact always played perfectly, even in old or cheap players.

- e404pnf

PS If you are going to order from svp try to get your order in before Wednesday 29th as they have an offer on the postage (only £1.99).

[e404pnf]

PPS...
If you don't want to take a risk with the CMC dye, SVP also sell full face printable with a G05 dye. This has had some bad press in this forum too, but I've not had any problems - that said only burnt a dozen or so.

Which ever you order, why don't you get one of the samples packs that they sell too? There are 6 different disks (with 4 different dyes) to try out. See which you, your burner & printer prefer.

- e404pnf

EDIT: sorry Garry, just read your post properly to see you also suggested the sample packs

[werewolf_02]

Cheers e404pnf

Ill go for those dvds

What about printable cds?

Also, if I have a dvd picture to be printed onto a printable dvd, and it has no inner bit, and I have 'Full Face Printable' will it still look okay? (If you understand what I just said :P )

[HARRYSPADGE]

werewolf_02, just a little bit of advice that might be useful to you,

I have the Epson R300 which is the same as the R200 except that the 300 has a card reader.
I have recently bought some full face printable Datawrite Titanium DVD-R's and when I print on them I experience 2 lines of banding on the print faces which are opposite to each other. It seems almost like the print surface is lifting very slightly once printed (that's the only way to describe it, though I am not 100% sure why this happens).
At first I was a little bit concerned by this because the Infiniti discs I also use do not do this.
I found that if you leave the discs to dry for 2-3 days (maybe more) the surface settles down and you can then spray them and they look much better, although there is still a very slight trace of banding visible.

I dont want to put you of these discs but just thought you may like to know in case you experience this problem.

By the way if you take a look at Ebuyer.com they have these discs with the Mitsubishi dye (MCC) which is considered to be a better dye and you may get them cheaper than at SVP. You may also get the printer cheaper from there, it's worth a look.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=8476184200&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdW...duct_uid=90421

You can also get the spray you want cheaper at 7dayshop.com, check your other post regarding the Inkjet Fixative spray as I have posted a link there.

Let me know how your prints turn out as it would be interesting to see if anyone else has this problem.

[bidefordboy]

Have burned & printed over 500 Ritek G05 full face printables, using my old faithfull Nec 2500a & Epson r300. No problems. The software that comes with the printer is all you need. I use 21mm inner & 119mm outer, then just run my finger tip around the outside edge if there is any excess ink. If you can't find a decent disc pic, then download the case pic & use 'cut & paste'. (Use the 'paint' programme that comes with Windows XP)

http://www.rambox.co.uk/index.php

[iooi]

Personally i would avoid the CMC MAG. AE1 I have had too many of these burn and play Ok but refuse to be copied at a later date and when scaned give nothing but large area's of errors.
I tend to use these 2 brands from SVP for full face printables. Both have Ritek Go5 dye, which seems to be pretty stable. Havent had any that i could not copy at a later date.

{DV 3243} Ridisc Xtreme' "Full Face" Printable (Ritek G05 dye) (8x) DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 50
{DV 3206} Ritek "Full Face" Printable (8x) DVD-R Disc in Spindle Tubs of 50

Mmm, could have sworn last batchs i got were around £10 to £11 for 50.....

[werewolf_02]

Hmm, okay - lots of advice here

Im going to the 3000rpm shop in the next couple of days:
http://www.3000rpm.com/

They sell the 'RITEK FULL FACE PRINTABLE DVD-R 8X (50 PACK)' for £10.99.
It doesn't give a media code, what do you think these dvds would be like?
I want them to play in as many different dvd players as possible.

Also, silver vs white printables, which give a better print?

[Bodyslide]

The silver ones have a hologram effect. I prefer the white ones. The Silver ones I buy if they are on clearance only....

[stiltman]

Also, how will I be able to get the exact sizes for printing onto the dvd? Never done this before....

Use a ruler to measure the white surface, or look at the sticky in this forum



BTW, here's a screenshoot of the setting I use to get about the best possible results.

[iooi]

They sell the 'RITEK FULL FACE PRINTABLE DVD-R 8X (50 PACK)' for £10.99.

I want them to play in as many different dvd players as possible.

Also, silver vs white printables, which give a better print?

Well Svp sell the same ones...
{DV 3166} Ritek G05 "Full-Face Printable" A Grade (8x) DVD-R Disc in Packs of 50
ADVDINFO: .RITEK G05
So they should be OK. Always found Riteks to be one of the better brands for playing in anything.
Have done some printing to sliver disks, but cant say i'm best impressed by it. Seems to need amount of ink to be upped from 0 to +2 or 3 to get a decent quality. Having said that they do have there place for certain jobs where all you need is black text as they then have a nice look to them.

[werewolf_02]

I ended up going for:

Datawrite Titanium "Full-Face Printable" (16x)

Anyone know the exact size of the inner and outer?

[stiltman]

I ended up going for:

Datawrite Titanium "Full-Face Printable" (16x)

Anyone know the exact size of the inner and outer?

If someone responds, I'll added to the sticky

In the mean time, do you own a tape measure or ruler?

[Pudah]

BTW, here's a screenshoot of the setting I use to get about the best possible results.

Are those the settings that you use for all printable media, or was that post in reference to a specific brand or type (white vs silver) of media?

[werewolf_02]

23 Inner and 119 outer worked well for the dvds, but I have a problem...they are supposed to be 16x, but they will only burn at 4x! I have a pioneer 108, do I need to update firmware? If so, where do I do this?

Also, I bought 100 Ridisc Printable cdr's...but no matter what inner and outer size I put, it will always leave a small amount of white round a bit of the inner and outer of the cd...

[iooi]

23 Inner and 119 outer worked well for the dvds, but I have a problem...they are supposed to be 16x, but they will only burn at 4x! I have a pioneer 108, do I need to update firmware? If so, where do I do this?

Go to the pioneer site it has all the updates there.
Have found by far the best way to get size is to measure by ruler as some seem to vary from batch to batch.

[werewolf_02]

Okay, ill get the firmware from the pioneer site

Btw, stiltman...I tryed your settings and it improved the quality A LOT...

But does that take up huge amounts more ink?

[stiltman]

I use this setting for all my printable media (white,silver, DVD and CD) I like great looking print outs, so the ink doesn't matter. (notice what I have the settings saved as?)

BTW, if you use Super MicroWeave, it will really drink the ink.

[werewolf_02]

Okay, well...

Any clue how much more ink it will use? Double than normal?

Btw, do you spray your dvds stiltman?

[stiltman]

Okay, well...

Any clue how much more ink it will use? Double than normal?

Btw, do you spray your dvds stiltman?

Don't have a clue on the amount of ink it uses. I don't count my DVD/CD print outs or photo print outs. I just replace the ink carts (G&G generics) when they are empty.

I spray some of them. I use Patricia Nimocks Clear Acrylic Sealer (Gloss). You can find it at walmart in the craft section (not where all the spray paints are) or I use Krylon clear gloss.

BTW, here is an original and a print out on some old Prodisc S03s (the printed one hasn't been sprayed with gloss so it has a little less contrast and vibrancy)