Lite-On DVDRW LDW-411S - PROBLEM

[Aznmask]

I bought this a month ago and then upgrade the fireware to DR4FS0J. Then i trying to burned some VIDEO_TS file.. with Nero.. (of course i burned them in DVD-VIDEO mode) it was a sucessful burned.. without any problem. But my Panasonic DVD player can't play them? i failed like 5 dvd-r disc.. THen i bring the DVD to play in my cousin's Yamaha and it work. SInce my cousin also have a DVD-RW.. his Sony 8X. THen i used the same type of DVD-R Disc and burned the same file.. and it work well in my Panasonic Player..

Plz help thx

[code65536]

Tell me more...
1) What kind of disc was this? What was the media code? (download Smart-Burn from the LiteOn website and use that to query your media) Under what name was this disc being sold?
2) How picky is your Panasonic. Have you had problems before? Have you had problems with other media types?
3) The burn that worked on your Panasonic... to clarify, that was burned using your cousin's Sony drive? If so, what's the model number of the drive?

Also, note that the latest is not always the greatest when it comes to firmares. FS0J is not known to be the best firmware in the 411S family. You may wish to consider FS0H or FS0F.

[Aznmask]

my cousin upgraded my firmware.. and i thought that could be the best choice..


it is not the dvd-r media problem.. if so why i burned the same file from my cousin's sony dvd-r can play in my Panasonic.

[atulo]

I have a similar case with my Panasonic A110 and CP67 players. I used Ritek G03 and G04 disks. The players can not play them if burned with LiteOn 451 but no problems if burned with Pioneer 106.

[poncho]

Check in this link

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDname=panasonic&Submit=Search&Search=Search&c...=&orderby=Name

You say is panasonic player, look for the model you have it....

Look if can play DVD-R......thats could be the problem..

I have the same burner... and my player (Sony) plays DVD-R and DVD+R well, but the DVD player of my brother cant play DVD-R....(is a Daewoo player)

Hope be helpful
Good look

[Aznmask]

so it is definitely the Lite-on 411S problem...

so does anyone know how to fix it??

[budz]

Try flashing your 411S drive to the FS0F firmware. The FS0F seems to better to use to burn DVD-R. Check this site and read how you can flash your Liteon 411S to another firmware.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92285

[Aznmask]

if i degrade the firmware does it kill my dvd-rw? o well i wish Lite-On will release a new firmware..

[budz]

Aznmask wrote:

if i degrade the firmware does it kill my dvd-rw?

No it doesn't kill your dvd burner. If it did mine would have been dead by now Just follow the instructions at the Liteon forum at cdfreaks.com.
I gave the link in my other posting. I've flashed my drive 3 times now and it still works perfectly fine. When I first got the drive I upgraded the firmware to FS0J then flashed it to FS0F so I could burn the orange riteks G04 DVD-R media then flashed it back to FS0J to use the bitsetting tool. At the Liteon forum I read how using the FS0F firmware works better with the RITEK G04 4x DVD-R media. Good Luck!

OOPS! I meant to give you the download for FS0F! Sorry! Here's the site:
http://dhc014.rpc1.org/indexOEM.htm#L

[johns0]

Your dvd-rw will be ok.If you want you can get the patched fsof firmware from my site,it will let you go back with no problems.budz,cdfreaks have an app that patches your bitsetting firmware so you can apply the patched firmware and it will set the booktype to dvd-rom without having to manually set it.Reboot and not have to worry about setting the booktype any more.
http://members.shaw.ca/johnisme/FS0F.zip

[budz]

john0 wrote:

budz,cdfreaks have an app that patches your bitsetting firmware so you can apply the patched firmware and it will set the booktype to dvd-rom without having to manually set it.Reboot and not have to worry about setting the booktype any more.

From what I've read using the FS0F firmware on a 411S drive it can not use the bitsetting program. Take a look at the thread at cdfreaks.com
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92285

[johns0]

budz,i know that part about the firmwares,i was just telling you about using the patch on the newer bitsetting firmware so when you flash to the newer firmware you wouldnt have to worry about setting the booktype,then you can flash back to fsof to burn dvd-r without the bitsetting feature.

[Aznmask]

budz thx for the information..but i'm confuse by which way i should use..

well can you write a guide step by step to flash back the firmware?

thank-you very much!

[johns0]

Aznmask,look to my previous post,i have a link to the firmware you want and it will flash back to fsof without any problems.

[code65536]

budz thx for the information..but i'm confuse by which way i should use..

well can you write a guide step by step to flash back the firmware?

thank-you very much!

Look in the tools sticky in the CD Freaks LiteOn forum. Be sure to read what is said about LtnFW, since that's what you'll be using...

1) Download a .BIN of the firmware from dhc014.rpc1.org
2) Run LtnFW
3) Select "update" mode, check the "update bootcode" box, AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT DRIVE SELECTED IN THE DROP-DOWN BOX!
4) Select the .BIN file you downloaded
5) Click the button it flash your drive... wait a while as it flashes... and you're done... you don't even need to reboot

[Aznmask]

ok i degraded my Lite-On to FS0F and i burned the the dvd.. and it can't play.. in my Panasonic RV-32 DVD player..

can some1 help.. thx

[code65536]

I ask again...

1) What is the media code of this disc that you're trying to burn??
2) What is the model number of your cousin's Sony burner?

[Aznmask]

i use Ritek.. DVD-R

my cousin'd DVD+/- 8X DVD-RW.. DUAL format..

Lite-ON!! Suk.. i swear i wont buy their product anymore..

[budz]

Aznmask>What software are you using to back up dvd movies? I use DVD SHRINK & DVD DECRYPTER to compress. What version of Nero are you using? I've read that if you're using NERO version #5 there could be problems in playing the disc in some standalone dvd players. Try updating your Nero to the latest version.

I think you're having a software problem and it isn't the drive because I've used RITEK DVD-R with the FS0F firmware and haven't had a problem in playing back in my RCA, APEX 1500's, LENOXX, & INITIAL dvd players.

All brands of dvd burners have their problems, Liteon isn't the only one.

*OOPS! I meant to say using the latest NERO version 6 has problems with 411S drive. Using version #5 seems to be ok.

[Aznmask]

nero ultra 6.3 , i don't think it is software problem..

[budz]

I ask again what software are you using to back up your dvd movies? DVD SHRINK?

[Aznmask]

i didn't back up my dvd movie..

actually i convert those MPEG into VIDEO_TS file then burned into DVD-R... that is the reason why i bought a DVD-RW czu i rather have 1 dvd-r than 7cd-r.

my cousin's SOny DVD-RW use the same software.. we in the NETWORK,

let me make this clear..

the dvd-r i burned with my Lite-ON can play in my cousin's YAMAHA DVD player his player can support dvd+R, Dvd-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW.

oops i forgot to mention that my lite-on is OEM..

[Aznmask]

o well i think to buy another DVDRW. dual format..

Is pacific Digital good? Pacific Digital 4x2.4x12x Internal DVD+-R/RW Drive

staples have a hot deal on this.. $49 AR..

[budz]

Azmask wrote:

o well i think to buy another DVDRW. dual format..

Is pacific Digital good? Pacific Digital 4x2.4x12x Internal DVD+-R/RW Drive

staples have a hot deal on this.. $49 AR..

i didn't back up my dvd movie..

actually i convert those MPEG into VIDEO_TS file then burned into DVD-R... that is the reason why i bought a DVD-RW czu i rather have 1 dvd-r than 7cd-r.

my cousin's SOny DVD-RW use the same software.. we in the NETWORK,

let me make this clear..

the dvd-r i burned with my Lite-ON can play in my cousin's YAMAHA DVD player his player can support dvd+R, Dvd-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW.

Seems to be a software issue. If you're using NERO to encode the files that could be the problem. Nero is crappy at encoding from what I've read on other forums as well as on this forum site. Why not use TMPGE DVD AUTHOR to create your VIDEO_TS file then use Nero to burn. But hey buy another drive and see if you have the same problems. You could run into the same problems. Too many people blame the drive when problems arise when it could be many other things. Too many variables in burning and authoring dvds.

[lacywest]

Seems like we are going around in circles.

Do you have a friend who can guide you or are you the only one in your circle of friends who is burning DVDs.

I'm my daughter's guide. She has the Lite-On 411. She did have some problems awhile back ... like back in January 2004. When she first started burning on her own.

About a good strong month ago ... She had some bad burns ... but they were only two disks she brought to me ... back in March. They froze up in certain spots.

Type of disks ... PCClub Orange Landscape Riteks ... on one of them I could see a fairly small but large enough smear in the dye pattern.

Backs up the story about the Orange Landscape DVDs being Grade B.

She is currently using the flavor of the week/month version of Nero dating back to ... oh ... late February or early March.

I tried to show her how to use Nero Recode 2 but she prefers DVDShrink.

Her computer is not quite as fast as mine ... She has a MSI mobo ... AMD 1700 XP CPU ... and Windows XP OS ... and a 60 gig HD.

When I gave her the LiteON 411 for Christmas ... I also installed an extra 40 GB HD for ripping purposes. 100 GBs total.

As for the fireware update ... for the LiteOn 411 ... whatever was current back in February 2004.

Staples had a sale on Sony DVD-R 10 Packs for $10 ... I gave her two packs [20 Sony DVD-Rs].

But last I heard she was still using the 25 PK of Orange Landscape Riteks.

I hope this was helpful.

Oh and her table top DVD Player ... the Panasonic E35S DVD Player ... plays ... DVD-RAM also. $80 bucks at Wal-Mart. The Panasonic E25S doesn't say it will play DVD-RAM

I have two Panasonic DMR E50S DVD Recorders so ... I gave the Panasonic E35S DVD Player to my daughter and one to my girlfriend. As a Christmas present. My daughter definitely knows I love her ... LOL.

And yes ... the E35S does read and play DVD-RAM ... because last Wednesday Star Trek Enterprise ... was recorded on DVD-RAM and my girlfriend watched it on her E35S.

I have Comcast Cable she has DirectTV ... her antenna gets lousy reception.

[budz]

lacywest wrote:

Seems like we are going around in circles.

It ain't me going around in circles. The guy has only said he uses Nero to encode after I asked about the software he was using. If you read the earlier posts he asked about firmware issues & mentions Nero burn but never did say what other software he was using.

That is why I asked what other software he was using. He obviously thinks it's the drive that is the problem so I suggested he try to use another software to author like TMPGE DVD AUTHOR. But if he wants to buy another drive that's his choice. I have no problems using the RITEK DVD-R ORANGE TOP LANDSCAPE DISCS in my LITEON 411 with firmware FS0F & PLEXTOR 708A. They all playback fine in my standalone dvd players. They also playback in Panasonic and Sony standalone dvd players.

[code65536]

my cousin'd DVD+/- 8X DVD-RW.. DUAL format..

That's not a model number. There's a reason why I ask that... because depending on what model number the Sony is, your cousin could be using a LiteOn. Sony 8x dual format burners with the U18A model number are actually LiteOn 812S drives with a Sony label slapped on them... so if your cousin's drive is a U18A, and you like that drive, then it means that you like a LiteOn. What blasphemy! But then again, the LiteOn _11S drives are known to be more problematic than their later _51S and 8_2S drives...

LiteOn drives are good drives. Their weakness, however, is that they deal poorly with poor media. I'm probably going to anger all the Ritek fans out there, but after my experiences with "Grade A" Ritek discs (sold under their RiData brand) where some of the discs had visible dye imperfections, I've come to the conclusion that Ritek is shit. And this was supposed to be grade A stuff... there's a lot of grade B or worse Ritek super-shit floating around, and if that's what you got, then it's definitely a media issue and not a drive issue.

[lacywest]

my cousin'd DVD+/- 8X DVD-RW.. DUAL format..

That's not a model number. There's a reason why I ask that... because depending on what model number the Sony is, your cousin could be using a LiteOn. Sony 8x dual format burners with the U18A model number are actually LiteOn 812S drives with a Sony label slapped on them... so if your cousin's drive is a U18A, and you like that drive, then it means that you like a LiteOn. What blasphemy! But then again, the LiteOn _11S drives are known to be more problematic than their later _51S and 8_2S drives...

LiteOn drives are good drives. Their weakness, however, is that they deal poorly with poor media. I'm probably going to anger all the Ritek fans out there, but after my experiences with "Grade A" Ritek discs (sold under their RiData brand) where some of the discs had visible dye imperfections, I've come to the conclusion that Ritek is shit. And this was supposed to be grade A stuff... there's a lot of grade B or worse Ritek super-shit floating around, and if that's what you got, then it's definitely a media issue and not a drive issue.

Okay everybody ... calm down.

I burn the Orange Landscape Riteks too ... but now I make it a habit to look underneath and check for blemishes.

I also bought to ... 2 ... 25 PKs ... of the Silver on top/purple on bottom Riteks ... for 40 some bucks from shop4Tech ... they write and read ... just fine in my Panasonic DVD Recorders.

Plus when Staples had that Sony sale ... I bought ... 4 ... 10 PKs

Plus I buy em when I find them at Walmart the Maxell DVD-RAM disks ... 3PK for $12 bucks.

[Aznmask]

budz,
i use TMPGEnc DVD Author to encode... then use nero to burn. my issue is my Lite-On burned the DVD-r that my Panasonic DVD player can't play it.. but my cousin's Yamaha DVD player can play it..

o well now everytime i want to burn DVD i have to go to my cousin's house.. ya thx Lite-On for such product.. thank-you everyone

have a great day.

[budz]

So you're saying you used TMPGE DVD AUTHOR? Because in your earlier post you said you used NERO to encode. How odd you still have a problem! Do a test by using DVD SHRINK to back up a dvd movie you have. I'm sure you must have one. Use DVD SHRINK to compress the movie then use NERO to burn. I'm thinking that MPEG you say you're using was probably not encoded correctly or something. Do a test as I suggested because if it works and can be played back on your PANASONIC RV-32 then the problem isn't the 411S drive but the MPEG you have.

If you insist the 411S drive sucks then return the darn thing and get whatever drive you want. I have the same drive as you and I got no problems with it at all. I'm done with this thread