Intervideo Copy2 Platinum

[4smiley20]

I just got this piece of software and still need to get familiar with it. I was dissapointed to find out that it can't rip, but I suppose thats their get out of jail free card. For those of you that use this and like it very much is it really worth using over shrink? I could see using it on a dual layered disc when the movie has to be compressed a ton in order to get it to fit on a dvdr. But since shrink can do everything why not just use it.

So what would be the prefered method of backing up movies with intervideo? Decrypter + Intervideo? If anyone knows of a useful and thorough guide for this thing I would sure appreciate if you could post a link. And any opinions of intervideo compared to shrink would also be helpful. I've been using shrink since I started backing up my movies and have been very happy with it especially with the new features on 3.1.7.

One last thing, what kind of format to the movies have to be in for intervideo to read them? Can it read isos or just video_ts?

[Kingnog]

Advantages of Intervideo over Shrink:
1: It's a lot faster
2: Quality is a LOT better. Check out this link: https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?link=555

3: You can take out things like intro-scenes without messing up the playback order, or leaving 10-second-long black screens
4: Prolly some more im forgetting

Disadvantages:
1: You have to pay for it.

[Vanderlow]

I like using it in conjungation with anydvd. I thought it did a btter job overall then Recode 2, but it might also leave little out of focus spots for a second now and then - so I guess that artifacts, but overall there was more sharpness to the picture then Recode 2. I bet others have opposite views, try compressing 70% or more to your have drive and compare. It has a movie only option.

[Phil Thomas]

Have a little read/view of this :

http://dvd.box.sk/articles8.php

[MrShavez]

The http://dvd.box.sk/articles8.php test is total bull, sorry to say. The images of Intervideo DVD copy and the original are THE EXACT SAME PICTURES...sorry to burst your bubble=(

I even tried this "miracle" software, and it totally blew me away..NOT. Pinnacle Instant Copy put that proggy to shame hands down...

[Phil Thomas]

The http://dvd.box.sk/articles8.php test is total bull, sorry to say. The images of Intervideo DVD copy and the original are THE EXACT SAME PICTURES...sorry to burst your bubble=(

I even tried this "miracle" software, and it totally blew me away..NOT. Pinnacle Instant Copy put that proggy to shame hands down...

Well ... you are entitled to your opinion and so am I.
I have tried this software and compared it to DVD2One, which I have been using since the first version. IMO the output from DVD Copy2 is easily comparable to DVD2One, if not better. I wouldn't knock IC8 either, if that works for you fine.
BTW how do you conclude that the test is total bull or is that just your opinion ?

[Kingnog]

1: The pictures are not exactly the same, you must not have looked at them. There is a slight difference.

2: Did you do a "full disk" backup? Of course this isn't going to produce "miracle" results. In the test they used only 1 audio stream. So I suggest you look more carefully before you start complaining. Try it again with 1 audio stream and see what happens. Or, run it through DVDSHRINK and take out any audio streams you dont want, THEn do a full disk backup.

[tsioc]

in that test, why did they use such an old version of dvdshrink, aren't the current versions MUCH Better?

[qwerty111]

Intervideo DVD Copy 2 Platinum is great and its picture quality is very very good, but the pictures on http://dvd.box.sk/articles8.php seem to be exactly the same as the originals indeed I was looking at them very carefully for several minutes but could not find not even one different pixel in comparison to the original...

[SoCalMK]

I use the older version of this program (v. 1.2) and love it. I even like the new version more when I tried it on a trial basis, but I couldn't get either version to write faster than 2x speed. My Pioneer 105 burner is 4x and all other burning programs I have used work at that speed. I haven't been able to find an option on the Intervideo program that would allow me to change the burning speed. I would greatly appreciate any help that can be offered.

[Phil Thomas]

in that test, why did they use such an old version of dvdshrink, aren't the current versions MUCH Better?

They didn't ... they used v.3.1.1 check the download link .... looks like they made a typo.

[Phil Thomas]

Intervideo DVD Copy 2 Platinum is great and its picture quality is very very good, but the pictures on http://dvd.box.sk/articles8.php seem to be exactly the same as the originals indeed I was looking at them very carefully for several minutes but could not find not even one different pixel in comparison to the original...

Could that maybe be because the program is good ?

Try it and see for yourself ... there's a free trial .... you might just be impressed

The tests must have taken them hours to produce and are very comprehensive look again zoom in to 300 or 400% and you will se that all of the programs have differences to the original. The similarity between Recode and DVD Shrink is accurate (same author) and the similarity between DVD2One and DVD Copy2 Platinum is accurate.
It doesn't wash to dismiss it, without a valid reason. I dont go with the conspiracy theory on this one ..... after all you have to believe something sometimes

[MrShavez]

Well take a looksee here...

http://dvd.box.sk/dvdr/img/art6/

This is the Intervideo dvd copy page; the images are bit for bit THE SAME SIZE with the exception of one picture...


http://dvd.box.sk/dvdr/img/art5/

this is the Pinnacle Instant copy page; NOT ONE of the images are the same size...

So it would seem that they copied the images and just rewrote their names.


To me this is proof enough, but I have also tried the program and it just didn´t produce the quality the test would suggest.

But if it works for you guys, great! I´m happy for you. But in my eyes the software is mediocre at best...

And that test is still bolognie IMHO

[pippocalo]

I did had the same impression.
The test of Intervideo is not true.

The transcoded images are the same of the original.

I test the program (the new 2 release and the old one) and do not produce this quality.

In same situation the quality is lower than DVDshrink.

Bye

[thxkid]

also try using "Ghost" with it, that allows you to rip and compress a backup thats CSS encrpted so you don't have to use a ripper 1st, also I have ripped and burned a single layred DVD in 15 minutes flat with this software, takes about 30-40 minutes using a dual layered disc that has to be compressed, cuts alot of time if you use a DVD-Rom and also a DVD burner, its just a one click process.
To see how well this program does I tried a 8.3 gig DVD and compress the entire disc and on a 56in tv it looked mighty impressive and thats over 480I component, but have to confess that the DVD was in B/W, have not tried a high action color DVD yet.

[Kingnog]

You people must be doing something wrong. I've made a bunch of backups and they're all exactly the same as the original (except the xtra features...but you cant expect everything to be perfect, eh?). The movie itself was awesome, even when soomed in 4x on my dvd player.

[qwerty111]

I dont go with the conspiracy theory on this one ..... after all you have to believe something sometimes

I don't think it is a conspiracy either. But could be a mistake though...
I would be very happy to see a program so good that no difference can be found between the original and the backup...

[nufan292]

I don't know how you could screw up on it, you press a damn button and wait. But yeah, I don't see much difference b/w it and dvd-shrink and such. But I haven't gotten my eyes checked in two years.

[Bregalad]

I ran my own test - DVD Copy2, DVD2One (v1.30) and DVDShrink (v.3.1.7 deep analysis). Only did cartoons (SIMPSONS, season 1)

Ripped with DVD Decrypter (latest).

Compressed from about 6.8GB, burnt with TMPGEnc DVD Author onto three separate DVD+RWs, then played in my player. 68cm Sony CRT TV - maybe on a larger 80cm TV, differences will show up more.

DVD2One and DVD Copy looked the same, and a bit "crisper" and brighter than DVDShrink - but I was really nit-picking.

DVD2One had highest bit rate, then DVD Shrink, then DVD Copy (very much lower). Then I noticed that the DVD Copy files were just 3.61GB, even thought the DVD option only has one setting - 4.7GB. Is this a bug?

As time elapses, will do feature movie tests, too.

Pro's: Quick, easy to use, allows you to keep menu functions when removing titles, good picture.

Con's: 3.6GB files, unable to specify non-standard sizes (eg. 4.4GB, to allow for disc surface errors), unable to compress different titles at different levels, and that nagging doubt in my mind that the reviews were a bit staged? When in doubt - DVDFab it and wait for the dual-layer burners!

[MysticE]

InterVideo still has some maturing to do. It's basic engine is sound but there are few problems in the final execution. It seems dropping audio steams (of which there is not enough choices) does not readjust the target size, hence the disc isn't filled. The only way to get a true 'Movie only' backup (ver 1.2 at least) with no menu is to rip 'Movie files only' in Decrypter. It shows promise and results on long movies can be be amazing some times, but for the price it needs some work.

InstantCopy 8, which is (was?) being offered for $29 is a better choice for great video (if it plays nice on your system).

[Kingnog]

I've always done full-disk backups after running it through dvdshrink, the size comes out to 4.4gb

[noki]

Then I noticed that the DVD Copy files were just 3.61GB, even thought the DVD option only has one setting - 4.7GB.

i had a similar experience. the final size was 3.91G instead of 4.35G (or 4.36 or 4.37 depending on your prog and taste). PLUS the resultant movie was not even playable in PowerDVD. big thumbs down to v 2.0 platinum. to those that use this version and have gotten great results...congrats.

[bmiller]

I'm back to using 1.2 gold.The new version is so full of bugs,it's basicaly unusable for me.They have admitted there are problems,but i have got no response from them regarding a time frame to fix errors in the program.

[Vanderlow]

I'd love to see more apps have a menu like CloneDVD 2. I think its tops menu wise.

[4smiley20]

Since I started this topic I figured I'd better follow it up. I've done a few movies now with intervideo copy2 platinum and it seems to do a fairly good job. It definitely doesn't make perfect copies of the original. I noticed some major artifacting in the menu and extras, however the movie was very good quality. I didn't do any action movies so I am still a little worried that intervideo could cause some noticeable problems in the movie itself.

There were some features that I didn't like with intervideo. First was that if you choose to customize your backup you are very limited to what you can keep and what you can't. This is one big advantage that shrink has over intervideo. With shrink you can pick and choose every type of audio stream and subtitle that is present on the disc. Intervideo you can't.

Another thing I didn't like about intervideo is that once you compressed the original the program does something to the menu ifo or vob which causes other programs to not be able to read it. Decryter will still rip the files intervideo creates, but I couldn't get any other program to burn them again besides intervideo. Thats something I really don't like cause it forces you to keep using that program.

Although I would still prefer to use decrypter and shrink for everything here is my solution to producing the best quality backup of a movie. And this is definitely not give you the fastest results.

1. Rip with decrypter.
2. Open the video_ts folder with shrink and strip out anything you don't want
3. Create a hard disc folder with shrink with no compression
4. Open the hard disc folder that shrink creates with intervideo, do the compression and burn it.

I think this will give the best results, but I still think I'm just gonna be using decrypter and shrink cause I don't mind a little artifacting once or twice during a movie. There's no point in creating a hard disc folder with intervideo because you'll only be able to open it back up with intervideo to burn it.

[HARRYSPADGE]

I did some testing of Intervideo Platinum 2 and DVDshrink and found that on playback, if you try to jump chapters on the DVD recorded by Platinum 2 it would jump the chapters erratically.
What I mean is, rather than it selecting the next chapter it would jump by 2 or 3 chapters.
Has anyone else experienced this ?

I also found it very difficult to notice any difference in quality between the Shrink version and the Platinum 2 version, but I'm sticking with shrink at the moment because the chapter skipping works a treat.
Maybe Platinum 3 would be better ?

[VegasBud]

I actually bought the full version of Intervideo DvdCopy2 Platinum, and was happy as a clam for several dvds, but really didn't notice much (if any) improvement over DvdShrink. Then I started getting major macroblocking, but only on certain dvds. After about a half dozen times burning garbage, I realized the only way to use it would be to actually watch everthing it produces all the way through on the computer before burning.
I contacted Intervideo several times about the problem, got no satisfactory answer from them, and removed the software from my computer. That was many months ago, and I haven't looked back. The software now sits on a cd in my "Jeez that was a waste of money" bin.

[HARRYSPADGE]

I actually bought the full version of Intervideo DvdCopy2 Platinum, and was happy as a clam for several dvds, but really didn't notice much (if any) improvement over DvdShrink. Then I started getting major macroblocking, but only on certain dvds. After about a half dozen times burning garbage, I realized the only way to use it would be to actually watch everthing it produces all the way through on the computer before burning.
I contacted Intervideo several times about the problem, got no satisfactory answer from them, and removed the software from my computer. That was many months ago, and I haven't looked back. The software now sits on a cd in my "Jeez that was a waste of money" bin.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
I noticed the same macroblocking problem too, but didn't get that problem with DVDshrink, so my copy of Platinum 2 sits on my desktop 'looking pretty'.

[dap]

I gave up on this POS three days after I brought it home.

DVDshrink is just too good to waste money on this imature program IMHO, but if you got to spend money for a program I like clonedvd.

[bmiller]

I haven't used this for many months.It is a useless piece of software.Clonedvd2 and dvdrb are what i use exclusivley,depending on the level of compression.