Capturing to AVI using ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 9800?

[echo1434]

Hi,

I have been having problems capturing to AVI using my ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 9800 card. The formats I'm interested are raw AVI or the "lossless" formats like Huffyuv. I've tried using various programs, such as Studio 8 and VirtualDub, and the results are always terrible. It looks like there are lines going through the video.

I called ATI support, and they told me that the product is not designed to capture to AVI. The guy said I was pretty much out of luck.

Does anyone out there know how to make this work? Are there any programs or drivers I can install to do this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[Richard_G]

Why not use the ATI MMC that came with it? I have no problems capturing to avi with my All-in-Wonder Radeon 7500. The hardware may be slightly different but the software is the same.

[NIRVANAX5X]

I think I know what you are talking about and have the same problem. Grab MMC and try to capture to their VCD preset, that'll remove all the lines by get this, de-interlacing. I'm in a rut about this and need a new card. I'm thinking the Sapphire Theater 550 but I don't want to get to this same flipping problem.

[mike909]

I am in the process of looking for a card that has the ability to capture avi and has a tv tuner built in. I was under the impression that happauge pvr's can't do this because they are meant to capture mpeg2 through hardware only; but it seems like some people are achieving this with the ATI AIW's.

[lordsmurf]

There is no "problem" whatsoever.
Those "lines" are interlacing. That is proper video.

Whoever you talked to at ATI was, quite frankly, a dumbass.

I've been using ATI AIW cards for about 4 years now. They can capture MPEG-1/MPEG-2 as well as any AVI codec you want.

Visit www.digitalFAQ.com and read the capture guides. Especially the INTERLACE guide and the ATI AIW catpure guides (one for MPEG, one for AVI).

[mike909]

Lordsmurf,
By any chance, have you been able to capture to avi with a hapauge wintv pvr (150, 250 etc) or do you know if it's possible?

[lordsmurf]

Lordsmurf,
By any chance, have you been able to capture to avi with a hapauge wintv pvr (150, 250 etc) or do you know if it's possible?

That is an MPEG hardware card. So, no.

[echo1434]

Thanks so much to all those who replied! Lordsmurf really hit the nail on the head here. And yes, the fellow I spoke to at ATI was a dumbass! He kept telling me the best thing to do, if I want an AVI, is to capture to MPEG-2 and convert to DivX, because it is an AVI. No matter how many times I told him that wasn't my intended purpose, he just didn't get it.

He couldn't even tell me that the card's AVI capture was based on the UYVY format. That's something I figured out on my own!

Anyway, I captured to both raw UYVY and Huffyuv. As usual, the files looked "wrong" because of the interlace lines. Then I converted them to a 720 x 480 MPEG-2, the lines went away, and everything looked great. Then I made it into a DVD... Everything is just fine!

I really wish I would have known this a long time ago. I'm sure many others, as seen in this post, are experiencing this same frustration. It's pretty sad when even technical support people can't help you out.

In summary, it seems that large AVI files aren't meant to be an end product for viewing. It's just a means to an end. In conclusion — problem solved!

[NIRVANAX5X]

I was thinking of different lines not the interlacing.

Notice this line in the top middle, I got tons no matter what the source in both fields. Don't see them on my TV and encoding to MPEG-2 and playing a DVD I DO see em.

[echo1434]

That's weird you still get the lines on a DVD. I really don't know what to tell you. I'm still pretty much a novice when it comes to video stuff. I'm just starting to master the basics.

I guess you could call ATI... But good luck! =) The guy I talked to was about as helpful as talking to a wall.

I hope one of the experts on here can help you solve your problem. You shouldn't have to buy a new capture device... Best of luck!