1500 kbps MPEG-1, muxed as SVCD and burned as SVCD. Is this

[glinckens]

I have a hardware MPEG-1 capture card. It can only capture in VCD resolution (352x288 in my case). When I capture at the VCD standard of 1150 kbps, I get a lot of blocks. When I capture at 1500 kbps the captured mpeg has enough bits per second and doesn't have any blocks.

When I remux this 1500 kbps mpeg to a XVCD using Tmpgenc and burn it with Nero, my Apex AD-600A DVD player won't play it correctly. The video speeds up or slows down during playing, always at the same places.
When I remux my captured mpeg file to a SVCD using Tmpgenc and burn with Nero, the player plays it flawlessly!

So my question is:
Is remuxing MPEG-1 audio/video to SVCD and burn it as SVCD a good thing to do? It doesn't get converted to MPEG-2, but stays MPEG-1. Only the player sees it as SVCD and sudddenly is a lot more tolerant playing it...

[AntnyMD]

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On 2001-12-05 14:29:57, glinckens wrote:
When I remux this 1500 kbps mpeg to a XVCD using Tmpgenc and burn it with Nero, my Apex AD-600A DVD player won't play it correctly.
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Don't remux. Drag and drop your MPEG-1 capture without any muxing directly into Nero and burn as an XVCD.

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So my question is:
Is remuxing MPEG-1 audio/video to SVCD and burn it as SVCD a good thing to do? It doesn't get converted to MPEG-2, but stays MPEG-1. Only the player sees it as SVCD and sudddenly is a lot more tolerant playing it...
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You have an extremely forgiving playback device. Don't break it!

[glinckens]

AntnyMD, thanks for your reply.
Burning the captured MPEG-1 directly with Nero doesn't work. The mpeg file doesn't contain the extra videocd information (don't know the correct term) so the DVD player won't play it. So I have to remux it to "VCD non-standard" to insert this extra videocd information into the mpeg file.

The Apex isn't as forgiving as many think. It will not play back XVCD's correctly without the mentioned speeding up and slowing down. I have tried about all encoding and muxing programs, but the Apex won't play any XVCD without any faults. It's especially sensitive to the used VBV size of the mpeg.

The only way to play XVCD's with the Apex is to remux and burn them as SVCD's. It is exactly the same MPEG-1 video, only the player thinks it's dealing with a SVCD and gets a lot more forgiving.
I wonder if other DVD players also play such mpeg-1 SVCD's.

[VidGuy]

I've had the same problem with the Pioneer 333 and with an Apex 3201. VBR MPeg-1 is not real happy as an XVCD, but it works great as an SVCD.

My personal take is go with what works. I don't know for sure that the SVCD spec allows MPeg-1, but I would think that it does....

[AntnyMD]

My experience came from capturing television from a VCR via Dazzle's MPEG-1 capture device. I maxed out the bitrate, encoded the audio at a pretty high quality, captured half-hour television shows and just dragged and dropped the final capture directly into Nero and burned.

It worked every time ... the only problem is Dazzle One is a total piece of shit and a waste of US$199 or whatever it was I paid for it.

[Adol]

You'd be surprised what non-spec formats are compatible with some players. I say if it works on your machine, don't be afraid to use it. I've also managed to burn SVCD streams that are 352x480 with 1500k bitrates... they look fantastic because its double field instead of single field and the extra bitrate and MPEG-2 keep the stream looking decent... so keep experimenting and make sure to post your results...