As Requested; Here is a good scan from a Pioneer 108

[chas0039]

A while back in a very contentious series of forum posts a few people requested a scan from a Pioneer 108 that did well. As requested, here you are:

Ritek G05 Burned @ 8x w Pioneer 108 FW 1.18



credit to:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=125713

[Ma_Jie]

Hi.

I've never used KProbe before, so perhaps this is a silly question, but why does it say SONY DRU-700A in the model description?

- MJ

[steve2713]

It's the model of the burner being used to do the above test (Only liteon drives work with Kprobe to my knowledge, but then this Sony drive IS a Liteon drive).

chas0039, I'm curious, why did you post a 'good' scan specifically from a Pioneer 108? Were people questioning whether or not it could do a good burn?

[lordsmurf]

When you edited a post with """"" in it, you butcher the title. Fix it.

[chas0039]

It's the model of the burner being used to do the above test (Only liteon drives work with Kprobe to my knowledge, but then this Sony drive IS a Liteon drive).

chas0039, I'm curious, why did you post a 'good' scan specifically from a Pioneer 108? Were people questioning whether or not it could do a good burn?

Yes, exactly. In a prior thread some people said they had not ever seen one and challenged me to find one so I did. I had seen many before but had not kept track of them. For some reason, people doubted the burning ability of the 108.

[Shocker Milwaukee]

I was the only one requesting the scan. As I recall, I requested a great scan, not just a good one.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=254177&highlight=

The scan you've supplied is impressive, yet is still has almost ten times as many PIF errors as the scans I posted of Pioneer 105 burns. My only contention was that Pioneer 108 burn quality was not superior to Pioneer 105, using certain media. I don' think that has been disproved.

[lordsmurf]

That scan is good, great, excellent. You get the idea....

[chas0039]

I was the only one requesting the scan. As I recall, I requested a great scan, not just a good one.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=254177&highlight=

The scan you've supplied is impressive, yet is still has almost ten times as many PIF errors as the scans I posted of Pioneer 105 burns. My only contention was that Pioneer 108 burn quality was not superior to Pioneer 105, using certain media. I don' think that has been disproved.

I will not start the old argument again. This is a great example of what is important and how different people will view the same information differently. I would take my G05 scan over your G04 scan any day. You are absulutely right about the PIF errors but the difference, to me, between the numbers is insignificant. I look at your ups and downs and high (160) PI errors and they bother me. You have almost 500,000 PI errors while I have closer to 50,000. That bothers me. My PI scan is better than yours. Your PIF scan is better than mine. I like mine; you prefer yours. This is what makes this hobby interesting.