Damm Premier Pro.. Or is it???

[Mayer]

Guys,

I am not rocking tonight, any help with this would be most appreciated.

I used to use Premier Pro 7 and have a Sharp Mini DV camara hooked up to it and have had no problems with Premier picking up the camara through firewire(even though it somewhat a strange camara) even the remote buttens worked.

Problem is, I have had to wipe my drive and re install all my progs however I now have Premier Pro 1.5, liked it better cause it links up nicely with Canopus 2 for encoding Divx. But, the damm programm will not recognise my camara, keeps saying "device not connected", anyone had this problem??

Even in the camara settings for capture it does not even state Sharp as a camara (neither did Pro 7) but at least it worked under Pro 7.

Adobe do not seem to have an answer, I would have thought that an updated Premier Pro should at least support it however, I think it is a tweak somewhere that I might be missing...

The camara is picked up by windows OK and confirms it is working properly but strangely, Windows Movie Maker does not recognise it.

Any thoughts out there??

[Mayer]

Someone must no a answer to this ??????

[edDV]

If Adobe didn't suggest this they need to be spanked. I'm assuming you have XP

Connect the camera with IEEE-1394, it should indicate a DV connection.

In XP, go to control panel, scanners and cameras and see if your DV camcorder is shown there.

Next test it in Windows Movie Maker. Version 2 or 2.1 is best. See if the camera works there.

If it does, call Adobe again. The problem is theirs.

[edDV]

OK didn't see your last sentence. What is the cam?

If it doesn't make it to Windows Movie Maker, it isn't an Adobe problem.

[Josef K]

I am not rocking tonight

I've come across this before with my cam, though different software. For me it was just Windows not picking up the cam and a reboot or two (funny old Windows...) eventually helped. Trying different ways of connecting kind of helped, given Windows' fickle nature. Make sure you give Windows enough time to boot everything so it's in an idle state before you try it, just to make sure. It's like a puzzle sometimes in that it likes things powered on in a particular order, though it never gives clues to what they are. Maybe your system is tweaked differently now:

Problem is, I have had to wipe my drive and re install all my progs

so Windows is not behaving as you would expect. After all, a computer is only as clever as the software you run on it...

By the way, is:

Hmmm, time to kick ass and chew bubble gum....But am all outa gum.

from here?

[tug_hill2]

Hello Group, Actually the quote:

"time to kick ass and chew bubble gum....But am all outa gum"

are words spoken by the wrestler Rowdy Roddy Piper in one of those nameless 'Kick Ass' films of the 80's..!


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[Quantum]

I thought the quote was more like, "I've come here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum."

The quote was from They Live, a John Carpenter film from the 80's. Not a bad performance at all for a guy that was a wrestler before that role. I was fortunate to find a copy of the rare DVD version that is out of print.

[canadateck]

Was out of print.

[NoodleMaps]

Not sure if you have tried this. If I am running Pro 1.5 and turn on my camera, Pro won't dectect it., but If I turn on my camera before I launch Pro, the device is detected. Got me on why, but it just does.

[edDV]

Yep, sometimes disconnecting the firewire, then reboot, then reconnect does the trick if something has hung. Another variation of the classic windows uninstall, reinstall trick.

[pchan]

Hi Meyer,

I have a Sharp Z950 MiniDV camera and using Premiere 6.5 to capture. Also facing some problem with Window Movie Maker. Removing the firewire card and slot it into another PCI slot help fixed the problem.

Once I am able to view the video in Window Movie Maker, only than I was able to capture video with Premiere.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=247663&highlight=

[edDV]

Yes, XP generally manages the IEEE-1394 connection.

[Mayer]

Ahh what a good forum, lots of comments for me to play with, first, to clear up the confusion,

"time to kick ass and chew bubble gum....But am all outa gum"

Is a quote from an old favorite game of mine, DUKE NUKEM...he raises this comment when the game kicks in so that answers that trivia.

My apologies on not being specific, my O/S is XP Pro, lates version with service pack two loaded on intallation. My cam is a odd Sharp breed model DV VL-DC3, seems it was only available in Germany and Japan, but I found a model in the UK and it has served me well for many years.

Basicallyall i have done is formated my drive recently and installed XP angain (however the previous o/s was XP home) and installed Premier 1.5 instead of Premier 7. The strange thing is windows picks up the cam correctly when the Firewire is attached and tells me i have a Sharp camara and it is ready for use, checking the camara in my computer reports it is well and ready for use but neither movie maker or premier will let recognise it.

I know the easy answer is go back to my original insallation but hey, this is a upgrade in software so I cannot understand why it will not have it.

Basically the O/S said it is there and ready for use but the software said no...
I am stumped.

[Josef K]

first, to clear up the confusion,

"time to kick ass and chew bubble gum....But am all outa gum"

Is a quote from an old favorite game of mine, DUKE NUKEM...he raises this comment when the game kicks in so that answers that trivia.

Well... not exactly... I thought you might quote this source. They Live was released in 1988 while Duke Nukem was released in 1991. So that, eventually, clears this one up properly. You should see the film - it's quite entertaining.

I thought the quote was more like, "I've come here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum."

Correct.

Not a bad performance at all for a guy that was a wrestler before that role.

Agreed. Though I'm not familiar with his 'work' before this (I don't live in a country where people idolise grunting men in spandex) I didn't know he was previously a wrestler before I saw the film. I saw The Rundown with The Rock and was also quite entertained by his performance in that. It just goes to show that one shouldn't always dismiss wrestlers who chose the wrong career path early in their lives.

Basically the O/S said it is there and ready for use but the software said no...
I am stumped.

Besides being highly unstable (for me) Premiere sounds like it's not happy with your cam. Why not try WinDV, DVIO (both freeware) or something similar, just to rule out or confirm Premiere as the source of the problem?

[edDV]

"Basically the O/S said it is there and ready for use but the software said no...
I am stumped."

hmm, maybe you could borrow another piece of DV equipment and see if it works differently.

also try the trick of disconnecting the cam.
reboot
after reboot reconnect (auto install) the cam
see if it works

maybe a call to microsoft is in order if that doesn't work
or search the XP and MM2 knowledgebase at microsoft support.

[Mayer]

Some progress,

To obtain another DV device was not easy but a friend has a little JVC model and it seems to work ok, XP picks it up and premier pro and my other programs work fine with it, so, the answer is a dodgy camara. Still seems strange though that XP picks up my camara ok but no program will recognise it however, it must be the camara if the other one is ok.

Many thanks for your comments and assistance.