vcd to dvd TMPGEnc qestion

[dblue]

i just got a dvd burner and im now going to convert all my movies on to dvd. i downloaded TMPGEnc and it can with a Template that i uses alot to convert my vcd movies (cdr). but now that im using dvdr, with pack should i use?

this is what is in the Template pack
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DVD (NTSC).mcf
DVD (PAL).mcf
SuperVideoCD (NTSC).mcf
SuperVideoCD (NTSCFilm).mcf
SuperVideoCD (PAL).mcf
VideoCD (NTSC).mcf
VideoCD (NTSCFilm).mcf
VideoCD (PAL).mcf

(other folder in side Template)
Extra
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unlock.mcf
VideoCD 1246kbps (NTSC).mcf
VideoCD 1246kbps (NTSCFilm).mcf
VideoCD 1246kbps (PAL).mcf

the ones in red is the ones i used all the time make my vcds (cdr). i think Template can with TMPGEnc so u all should have it

[jimmalenko]

Use DVD (PAL).mcf if your source is PAL. Use DVD (NTSC).mcf if your source is NTSC.

Done

[dblue]

Use DVD (PAL).mcf if your source is PAL. Use DVD (NTSC).mcf if your source is NTSC.

Done

how come vcd has 2 NTSC, because some NTSC are 29. and some are 23 PAL is 25. so how come theres only one DVD (NTSC).mcf
VideoCD 1246kbps (NTSC).mcf 29.
VideoCD 1246kbps (NTSCFilm).mcf 23.
VideoCD 1246kbps (PAL).mcf 25.

(i know it should be 29.95 or something like that)

[jimmalenko]

When you put 23.976fps NTSC onto DVD, you must encode it with a 3:2 pulldown, so that it plays internally at 29.976fps. It's literally 2 settings that you need to change from the DVD (NTSC).mcf template, so I guess the creators assumed you wouldn't be so lazy as to need a different template for two changed settings.

You can easily make another template if you wish.

See What is DVD? (top left) for the DVD specs.

[steveryan]

If I were you I would not convert to DVD, it's a waste of time. Just use TMPGEnc DVD Author, that will convert the audio for you and you'll have DVD compliant VCD's.

[jimmalenko]

If I were you I would not convert to DVD, it's a waste of time. Just use TMPGEnc DVD Author, that will convert the audio for you and you'll have DVD compliant VCD's.

... if all the source files are VCDs, too right

I got the impression that there might be a few different file types thrown in there.

[TBoneit]

Yup use TMPgenc DVD Author, it'll only re-encode the audio and leave the video untouched. Any other method such as using the TMPGenc Plus DVD Template will re-encode the VCD and you lose two things, a. Some quality, how much depends on what settings you use. And b. Since you can not make them look better why not get 6 or more hours of VCD on one DVD and save shelf space and DVD media costs.

Or just leave them as VCD if your player supports that format and save the time and money of DVDing them.

YMMV of course.
Cheers

Qucik Edit, the one benefit of putting them on DVD is to have the entire movie on one disk... Of course if you have a changer or do not mind getting up then not a real big benefit.

[dblue]

Yup use TMPgenc DVD Author, it'll only re-encode the audio and leave the video untouched. Any other method such as using the TMPGenc Plus DVD Template will re-encode the VCD and you lose two things, a. Some quality, how much depends on what settings you use. And b. Since you can not make them look better why not get 6 or more hours of VCD on one DVD and save shelf space and DVD media costs.

Or just leave them as VCD if your player supports that format and save the time and money of DVDing them.

YMMV of course.
Cheers

Qucik Edit, the one benefit of putting them on DVD is to have the entire movie on one disk... Of course if you have a changer or do not mind getting up then not a real big benefit.

so i should just keep making my vcds and uses and use TMPgenc DVD Author? can i save more room on a cd (DVD) if u use vcd?

[TBoneit]

It sort of depends if you are happy with VCD quality or not.

If happy with VCD Video, do not nake VCDs, as such, make them as DVD format, IE 352 by 240 by 1150Kbps with the audio at 48Khz instead of VCD's 44.1Khz. Easy enough to do when you encode. I use TMPGenc Plus with the VCD template modified for 48Khz audio and saved as VCD4DVD so it is ready to use.

I mention this since you say continue to make VCDs, So make them DVD ready and save the time when authoring that TMPGenc DVD Author uses when it has to re-encode the audio.

Aldso consider 1/2 D1 or 352 by 480 at around 4000 kbps, better quality but bigger file size.

It might be worth a test disk with the same video as VCD, 1/2D1 and full DVD to see what the quality looks like.

Good Luck