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  1. Member Super Warrior's Avatar
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    I have a few Video CDs that i'd like to put onto a DVD-R and have them play as if they were a normal DVD. But i don't feel like spending hours upon hours, doing all kinds of research, reencodeing, transcodeing, resizeing and all that other crap.

    Are there any simple 1-click type programs out there that will save me the headaches, do all the work and put the VCD files into DVD format, to later be burned in a program like nero?
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    After actually doing all those hours upon hours of research, I can confirm right now that you don't need to re-encode, transcode, resize or do any other crap to a VCD to get it playable on a DVD ...

    ... But if you'd taken 5 minutes to look at the stickies, or done a forum search, you might have found this one

    Extract the MPEG out of the DAT files using ISOBuster or VCDGear. Drop the MPEG files into TMPGEnc DVD Author, and it'll do the rest.

    Not 1-click, but not rocket science either
    If in doubt, Google it.
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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Extract the MPEG out of the DAT files using ISOBuster or VCDGear. Drop the MPEG files into TMPGEnc DVD Author, and it'll do the rest.
    That's 2 clicks.
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    Originally Posted by ZippyP.
    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Extract the MPEG out of the DAT files using ISOBuster or VCDGear. Drop the MPEG files into TMPGEnc DVD Author, and it'll do the rest.
    That's 2 clicks.



    Yep, my bad

    I was in the process of editing my first post when you posted
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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    After actually doing all those hours upon hours of research, I can confirm right now that you don't need to re-encode, transcode, resize or do any other crap to a VCD to get it playable on a DVD ...

    ... But if you'd taken 5 minutes to look at the stickies, or done a forum search, you might have found this one

    Extract the MPEG out of the DAT files using ISOBuster or VCDGear. Drop the MPEG files into TMPGEnc DVD Author, and it'll do the rest.

    Not 1-click, but not rocket science either
    TMPGEnc costs $70 according to the page you linked.Not worth it for this 1 time that i'll be useing it.

    Got a link to a free program?
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    It's got a fully functional, 30 day free trial, which should be sufficient for this one time you're gonna use it
    If in doubt, Google it.
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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    It's got a fully functional, 30 day free trial, which should be sufficient for this one time you're gonna use it
    Ok. Now out of Isobuster and VCDgear, which is the easiest for simple extraction of Mpegs from a VCD?

    Also can the TMPGEnc program convert a pal Mpeg to NTSC?
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    Originally Posted by Star Warrior
    Ok. Now out of Isobuster and VCDgear, which is the easiest for simple extraction of Mpegs from a VCD?

    Also can the TMPGEnc program convert a al Mpeg to NTSC?
    Search is your friend

    I find both ISObuster and VCDGear easy to use, especially when there's this guide for ISOBuster

    TMPGEnc DVD Author cannot convert PAL to NTSC - there's a few guides here on how to do it - but I don't think they'll be for you
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    I think theres a mpeg encoder on Nero that has the Pal/NTSC option. Could i use nero to convert it to NTSC?
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    I thought you didn't want to go through hours upon hours of re-encoding, resizing (and all that other crap) because that's exactly what Nero will do
    If in doubt, Google it.
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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    I thought you didn't want to go through hours upon hours of re-encoding, resizing (and all that other crap) because that's exactly what Nero will do
    Its just a simple few clicks though,not a whole lot to think about, and worth the encodeing time if the results are good....
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    Originally Posted by Star Warrior
    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    I thought you didn't want to go through hours upon hours of re-encoding, resizing (and all that other crap) because that's exactly what Nero will do
    Its just a simple few clicks though,not a whole lot to think about, and worth the encodeing time if the results are good....
    Try it for youself then.

    See if you think the quality and time is OK. Only you can answer that
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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Originally Posted by Star Warrior
    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    I thought you didn't want to go through hours upon hours of re-encoding, resizing (and all that other crap) because that's exactly what Nero will do
    Its just a simple few clicks though,not a whole lot to think about, and worth the encodeing time if the results are good....
    Try it for youself then.

    See if you think the quality and time is OK. Only you can answer that
    But i want you to tell me!! You have all the answers!!
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    Originally Posted by Star Warrior
    But i want you to tell me!! You have all the answers!!
    OK, fine.



    IMHO, Nero's encoding engine is sub-par, to say the least. I believe in using dedicated tasks to do dedicated jobs, and Nero's all-in-one NeroVison Express just doesn't cut the mustard IMO. PAL/NTSC conversions are difficult at the best of times, and given that we're talking about VCD sources, I can only assume that the sources for them were downloaded, which means they were probably lacking in quality to start with. If the source was DVD, you'd just do a DVD to DVD backup, wouldn't you ? At the very least, you'd do the PAL/NTSC conversion using the DVD as source, anyways.

    The ISOBuster/VCDGear & TDA method that I mentioned above is IMO the fastest/easiest way to do this. As for PAL/NTSC, it's not a drama for me as I have a multisystem DVD Player and TV. Maybe you should investigate this possibility also, or put up with (IMO) sub-standard results from NVE.
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  15. Mustard aside, nero should be fine for his purpose. If the sources are VCD to begin with, what's the point of trying to use some higher quality method dump them to a DVD?
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    DVD Santa takes all kinds of VCD files and converts them and burns them for you.

    2 clicks
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    Originally Posted by stillmars321
    DVD Santa takes all kinds of VCD files and converts them and burns them for you.

    2 clicks
    The method was the TMPGEnc also works decent too apparently. Now my only problem is the VCDs are in pal and i need to convert them to NTSC. Burning under VCD in Nero with the NTSC option checked does not seem to do anything.

    Got any other ways to convert Pal to NTSC?
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    Also would converting a Pal DVD to a NTSC DVD be any easier than converting a VCD?

    I was able to get it onto a DVD just fine, now its only the Pal signal stuff i have a problem with. Any help would be appreciated.
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    Originally Posted by Star Warrior
    Also would converting a Pal DVD to a NTSC DVD be any easier than converting a VCD?

    I was able to get it onto a DVD just fine, now its only the Pal signal stuff i have a problem with. Any help would be appreciated.
    Did you read any of the guides at the link I posted earlier ?
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    Why waste time reading guides when he can get you to do it for him?
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    Originally Posted by BobK
    Why waste time reading guides when he can get you to do it for him?
    If in doubt, Google it.
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  22. hey jimmalenko,i need to go to the toilet and take a dump,would you wipe my ass for me.?
    as i cant be bothered going through the motions of ripping off a piece of toilet paper,and wiping my own ass.its just too bothersome.
    roflmao.
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    Originally Posted by RottenFoxBreath
    hey jimmalenko,i need to go to the toilet and take a dump,would you wipe my ass for me.?
    as i cant be bothered going through the motions of ripping off a piece of toilet paper,and wiping my own ass.its just too bothersome.
    roflmao.
    Can do. Do you prefer 2-Ply or 3 ?

    What's that ? Hang on, I'll get a tissue ...... OK, blow .... <hrrrrrrrph> ... there now, there's nothing worse than a blocked nose, is there ?
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    you should also re-encode the audio from 44000 to 48000 to make the vcd a dvd-compliant mpeg 1
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    Originally Posted by ricky1756
    you should also re-encode the audio from 44000 to 48000 to make the vcd a dvd-compliant mpeg 1
    TMPGEnc DVD Author takes care of that little problem automatically
    If in doubt, Google it.
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  26. Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Originally Posted by ricky1756
    you should also re-encode the audio from 44000 to 48000 to make the vcd a dvd-compliant mpeg 1
    TMPGEnc DVD Author takes care of that little problem automatically
    But I will have to wait minutes for it to download !
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  27. Wouldnt WinAVI Video Converter do the job?
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    > audio from 44000 to 48000

    > TMPGEnc DVD Author takes care of that little problem automatically

    When I put all my VCDs on DVDs I found that have to resample the audio really slowed down DVD Author, and about 1 out of 3 times it would hang up after working 15-20 minutes.

    For me it worked much faster to change the audio in TMPGEnc Plus or Goldwave first.
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  29. Originally Posted by BobK
    > audio from 44000 to 48000

    > TMPGEnc DVD Author takes care of that little problem automatically

    When I put all my VCDs on DVDs I found that have to resample the audio really slowed down DVD Author, and about 1 out of 3 times it would hang up after working 15-20 minutes.

    For me it worked much faster to change the audio in TMPGEnc Plus or Goldwave first.
    I have no such hanging up issues with TMPGEnc DVD Author and have managed to create DVDs (so far) using VCD as source for up to six hours long (so far). True, it slows things down, but I put that down to encoding alot more video than usual.


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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Originally Posted by Star Warrior
    Also would converting a Pal DVD to a NTSC DVD be any easier than converting a VCD?

    I was able to get it onto a DVD just fine, now its only the Pal signal stuff i have a problem with. Any help would be appreciated.
    Did you read any of the guides at the link I posted earlier ?
    Awesome! I just downloaded the regular TMPGENC and simply re-processed/encoded the VCD files, under VCD NTSC mode at default settings. In order to change the files from PAL to NTSC.

    I was reluctant to resort to this because a few years ago when i had my old Pc, a 1.3Ghz celeron 128K L2 Cache , it would take FOREVER to do ANYTHING in TMPGEnc.

    However my new Pc, a 2.8Ghz Celeron D with 256K L2 Cache, went pretty quick. Only took about 15-20 minutes to encode each hour of video.

    Once i was done with my new set of NTSC VCD files, i processed it again with TMPGEnc DVD Author and then burned with Nero. The end result was good and i sucessfully put 8 VCDs onto 1 DVD-R! (Still had almost 2GBs left over btw)

    Thanks!
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