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  1. I was having a conversation with a friend and these two questions arose:

    1) Can you give any mail that you want sent to your mailman instead of going to a mail box?

    2) Is undergraduate studies a farce in the US, like pre-med/pre-law and what does that exactly mean?
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    2depends were you study. I thought my undergraduate bio degree from Univ. of Michigan was harder than med school.
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    Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    I was having a conversation with a friend and these two questions arose:

    1) Can you give any mail that you want sent to your mailman instead of going to a mail box?

    2) Is undergraduate studies a farce in the US, like pre-med/pre-law and what does that exactly mean?
    1) Yes.

    2) Not at all. They're undergrad courses that are required for entry into med school or law school
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    Hello,

    1 - sort of. You're really supposed to use a mailbox or go to the post office for large packages. Though they have just started door pickup services through www.usps.com

    2 - don't quite know what you're getting at. I was in business so I can't comment on that.

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    2. General Studies is a bs major. Most often used by jocks
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  6. What does pre-law and pre-med and other "pre-" classes actually entail and what do you actually come out with (like a Bachelor degree)?

    I know for law in Australia that you do a 4 year Bachelor course and then like the bar course.
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    2. General Studies is a bs major. Most often used by jocks
    Sounds like what we have with Bachelor of Arts degree focussing on Aboriginal or Woman studies.

    You'll be the highest educated McDonalds manager though when you finish.
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    Hello,

    Originally Posted by pacmania
    You'll be the highest educated McDonalds manager though when you finish.
    They have McDonalds in Austrailia??????

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    Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    What does pre-law and pre-med and other "pre-" classes actually entail and what do you actually come out with (like a Bachelor degree)?

    I know for law in Australia that you do a 4 year Bachelor course and then like the bar course.
    Pre-med involves courses heavily into chemistry and biology. Not sure what pre-law involves, but, yes, they lead to a Bachelor's degree - a prerequisite for entry into med school or law school ....which end up awarding an MD or a JD degree, depending on which one.
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  10. An Australian was running the McDonalds empire till about a month ago. :P
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    Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    An Australian was running the McDonalds empire till about a month ago. :P
    Hello,

    :P :P :P

    I think you missed the:

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    Most universities dont have pre-med majors. Pre-med requirements are classes required by med school. Most will choose a science major,most often bio. You could do it as an art major if you wanted.
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    Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    What does pre-law and pre-med and other "pre-" classes actually entail and what do you actually come out with (like a Bachelor degree)?

    I know for law in Australia that you do a 4 year Bachelor course and then like the bar course.
    Pre-med involves courses heavily into chemistry and biology. Not sure what pre-law involves, but, yes, they lead to a Bachelor's degree - a prerequisite for entry into med school or law school ....which end up awarding an MD or a JD degree, depending on which one.
    MD = Masters Degree I am guessing but what is JD?

    Can you do any Bachelor degree program as a prerequisite degree to get in or does it have to relate in some way to the later subject, like in Legally Blonde she does Bachelor of Fashion then goes to Law school?
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  14. Yeah.. and he got colon cancer :/
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    question for u pac.Do you have Outback steakhouses?
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    Originally Posted by Dr.Gee
    question for u pac.Do you have Outback steakhouses?
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    That's a good one

    Though do they???

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    Originally Posted by Dr.Gee
    Most universities dont have pre-med majors. Pre-med requirements are classes required by med school. Most will choose a science major,most often bio. You could do it as an art major if you wanted.
    That's changed then. USed to be you had to have a minimum number of undergrad courses in Chem and Bio.
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    Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    An Australian was running the McDonalds empire till about a month ago. :P
    Hello,

    :P :P :P

    I think you missed the:

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    Didn't miss it, just pointed out that we Aussies secretly control the world. :P
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    Yeah.. and he got colon cancer :/
    Too much Macca's food.

    question for u pac.Do you have Outback steakhouses?
    Nope, never heard of them till I visited the US. I've seen their menu from a friend who went to America as a teacher and the food on their is nothing like real Australian food.
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  20. Thats one thing I am looking forward to doing when I go back to the US, visiting an Outback Steakhouse and asking them for food like a Sausage Roll or a Lamington or a Meat Pie.
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    Originally Posted by Capmaster
    Originally Posted by Dr.Gee
    Most universities dont have pre-med majors. Pre-med requirements are classes required by med school. Most will choose a science major,most often bio. You could do it as an art major if you wanted.
    That's changed then. USed to be you had to have a minimum number of undergrad courses in Chem and Bio.
    Correct.But as long as u take those classes it doesnt matter what your major is.
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    Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    MD = Masters Degree
    Medical Degree

    2) Not at all. They're undergrad courses that are required for entry into med school or law school
    Not necessarily...you could be a music major and if you fit the other criteria(good mcat score, volunteer, clinical experience) you'll get in. Its rare, but I know a couple of cases.

    Anyway...I'm a pre-med biology major which means I'm learning the basic concepts of what I'm going to learn in med school later in more detail. When I graduate, I'm gonna have a bachelors degree in biology. There are 2 choices at my school, BA in science or BA in arts. You take the same amount of science courses, but in science, you have to do a year of research and in arts, it requires you to take broad courses(spanish, etc.). I hear that med schools and dental schools prefer BA becuase you turn out "well rounded" which is what theyre looking for.
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    Originally Posted by Devanshu
    Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    MD = Masters Degree
    Medical Degree

    2) Not at all. They're undergrad courses that are required for entry into med school or law school
    Not necessarily...you could be a music major and if you fit the other criteria(good mcat score, volunteer, clinical experience) you'll get in. Its rare, but I know a couple of cases.

    Most universities dont have pre-med majors. Pre-med requirements are classes required by med school. Most will choose a science major,most often bio. You could do it as an art major if you wanted.
    Isnt that what I said
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    Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    What does pre-law and pre-med and other "pre-" classes actually entail and what do you actually come out with (like a Bachelor degree)?

    I know for law in Australia that you do a 4 year Bachelor course and then like the bar course.
    Before I joined the military I was pre-law at Michigan as well. It is a hard school, like Dr. Gee says. My major was political science, with minors in English and French.
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    JD is a juris doctorate. Technically, a lawyer is considered a doctor. There is absolutely no specific undergraduate requirement to go to law school, you just have to have an undergrad degree of some kind. Pre-law just focuses on English and howevever many actual legal courses the college has. Its just meant to give you a headstart when you later go to law school. Its a pretty useless degree, IMO, because you will learn it all and more in law school and if you change your mind after college and don't want to do law then you've got no use for your degree.

    If you are planning to go to law school you still have to be careful about your undergrad degree. Generally, the best degree to have is one in English or Journalism, since you do more writing as a lawyer then anything else, but if you want to do something like Patent law then you are required to have a scientific undergrad degree of some kind.
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  26. Originally Posted by pacmania_2001
    I was having a conversation with a friend and these two questions arose:

    1) Can you give any mail that you want sent to your mailman instead of going to a mail box?
    Actually, NO (See Yoda's response) - you could give some mail to a mail CARRIER (you'll get smacked for calling them mailmen in America nowadays - female's don't appreciate being called a mailman)

    Even though you can give mail to a mail carrier, they don't like it when you make a habit of it.
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    I don't put any mail in my mailbox, to go out. There were teenagers that were stealing mail out of boxes years ago and it caused a lot of problems. So I just drop it off with the MailRoom here at work. As long as it's stamped, they don't care.

    Pre-schooling is mandatory in certain fields or to go to certain schools. usually much harder and more information than the actual studies of what they are going into. I wouldn't call it a farce because it's material is some of the highest rated in the world. As for the students using all of it, it depends on what they are going to lead their major to in that field. In short it's heavy study of basics and allows a person to determine wether that's what they really want to do or not.
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    Originally Posted by yoda313
    They have McDonalds in Austrailia??????
    Yeah, but they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese a Royal with Cheese
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    Actually, according to the DMM, (Domestic Mail Manual), the mail carrier is able to pick up anything you could mail at the post office, provided you have the correct postage and forms. You can even mail insured express mail through your carrier, although they probably won't know what to do. I did a little stint at the post office for 8 months. It's absolutely amazing that more mail doesn't get lost, with their dinosaur systems.
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