dvd players with SACD playback...

[tsantsa]

Anyone know of any decent dvd players with SACD playback under $200? I tired to look on the DVD Players list on the menu on the left, but there isn't a search parameter for SACD. I could have sworn that there used to be though... How about implementing this into the search MODS?

Anyhow, I am having trouble looking for dvd players that play SACD's without running into the $500 range and above. I know they exist for much less and of decent quality but can find no reviews of them....SO anyone here have one of these? If so what brand and how do you like it?

[tsantsa]

Jeez noone knows?

[midnightsun]

I know of one because I was looking at the specs on the Pioneer site. It's the Pioneer DV-575A. I did a reasearch once and found it for as low as 172€ (I'm in €urope). You should be able to find it for less than 150$ if it's USA you live in.

Plays dvd-audio and mpeg-4 too.
Ask around, somebody might be able to tell you if it's worth the buy.

[Baldrick]

tsantsa: yep, it was in the list...but most reported wrong so I removed it.

[jman98]

I have never owned a SACD player yet, but Sony makes at least one that is under $200 US. Pioneer makes a DVD-Audio/SACD combo player for under $150 US, but they keep changing the model number of it. Circuit City and Best Buy sell it. Audiophiles claim that the cheaper SACD players aren't up to audiophiles specs. For example, the Pioneer is set to route to the subwoofer at a setting some think is less than ideal. Whether those of us who don't live in the "If it's not a LP I can play on my $10,000 turnable it's garbage" set would notice or care is very reasonable question.

[RottenFoxBreath]

yeah,the sony that my family had played SACD,but the quality of it compared to the original CD of the same album(dark side of the moon),was pretty poor.
thats why the formats dead,it wasnt up to par,even Sony,and pioneer,only list it as an extra and not the selling point it was a year ago.
we took both the album and the dvd player back for a refund and got an LG which is kickass,compared to the crap that was sony.
doesnt play SACD,but hey,i dont need it,and never will,as it was doomed to failure from the start.

[zleepy]

RottenFoxBreath which Sony model did you try?

I got the Sony NC875V ($130) for my Dark Side of the Moon.
While trying to pick an ANALOG 5.1 system (SACD out is analog)
for it, I played the sacd as L+R+subw and it sounded pretty bad.

EDITED
I did not connect the nc875v to my theater system, thinking that the
surround field would be totally confused by the sacd'ed surround.

The DSotMoon's fantastic reviews were for the 30th anniversary edition
on a 5.1 SACD system and not on a home theater system using 5.1
digital input.

The sacd reviews of my NC875 have been very good, video too, and
it plays VR disc made and edited with my Cyberhome DVD recorder.

[tsantsa]

Every time I go to bestbuy.com the pioneer I am looking for (dv578a) is sold out. I even went to the store and they didnt have it. at $99 you just cant beat a dvd player of that quality.
But then bestbuy is known for having an item for a great price and never actually having it in stock.

Any online retailers price match?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1081899794314&skuId=6588882&productCategory...3&type=product

heres the link if anyone is interested in it.

[jman98]

Just to nit pick an earlier post...
SACD is not a dead format. However, the dirty little secret is that to really appreciate it, you can't buy one of those cheapo plays everything players. It's going to cost more to get a good player than it's probably worth.

New SACDs come out constantly. The format is NOT dead. However, neither SACD nor DVD-Audio has sold in the kind of numbers to make manufacturers (of discs and players) happy. Denon recently announced a player that would not play either format, saying that consumers don't want the formats and it was stupid to support it and increase the cost of the player and lose sales on something most people don't want, when they could not support it, lower the cost of the player, and sell more players. This is an ominous sign.

[Noahtuck]

yeah,the sony that my family had played SACD,but the quality of it compared to the original CD of the same album(dark side of the moon),was pretty poor.
thats why the formats dead,it wasnt up to par,even Sony,and pioneer,only list it as an extra and not the selling point it was a year ago.
we took both the album and the dvd player back for a refund and got an LG which is kickass,compared to the crap that was sony.
doesnt play SACD,but hey,i dont need it,and never will,as it was doomed to failure from the start.

Hmmm.... i have a sony 5-disc dvd/sacd player and the DSOTM on sacd and there is a MAJOR improvement over the standard cd!!! but i have it hooked up through the 5.1 input & not the single digital cable to the reciever,
Not sure if that makes a diff. but i can clearly hear the diff.

I also have thought about the pioneer dvd-audio/sacd player for my living room. & yeah, bestbuy has them all the time for around 150.00 & they are always in stock at the one near my house.

And i am no fan of sony!!!!! the only reason i bought it was because at the time it was the cheapest sacd player i could find, think i paid a little over $200.00 for it and at the time the cheapest one pioneer had was around 400.00.

[Noahtuck]

Just to nit pick an earlier post...
SACD is not a dead format. However, the dirty little secret is that to really appreciate it, you can't buy one of those cheapo plays everything players. It's going to cost more to get a good player than it's probably worth.

New SACDs come out constantly. The format is NOT dead. However, neither SACD nor DVD-Audio has sold in the kind of numbers to make manufacturers (of discs and players) happy. Denon recently announced a player that would not play either format, saying that consumers don't want the formats and it was stupid to support it and increase the cost of the player and lose sales on something most people don't want, when they could not support it, lower the cost of the player, and sell more players. This is an ominous sign.

WOW!!!! i love dvd audio disc's!!!!!!!! most of them seem to be about the same price as a standard cd near me (avg. 14.99) and sound WAY better!!!!!
Wish they would come out with more faster & even change over to the format completely..... Hmmmm..... stereo audio cd's or 5.1/DTS audio disc's ?? gee... i wonder why you would want the better of the 2 ??

[tsantsa]

so no price matching with online retailers then, eh?

[zleepy]

WOW!!!! i love dvd audio disc's!!!!!!!! most of them seem to be about the same price as a standard cd near me (avg. 14.99) and sound WAY better!!!!!

YES!
In 1992, my pal took his midi composition to mix a CD album at a pro house.
The studio used 24/48 audio generator (wavetable) to listen to his midi and
he was floored by the "dramatically" better sound than his pc 44.1kHz.

The dynamic range was his PC's 16bit so only the sample was slgihtly different.
Not everyone can hear such a dramatic difference.
Now days, he's crazy about audio dvd (96kHz).

---------------------------
For those who don't know MIDI:
It is an electronic sheet music (aka chart, score, fake book, etc).
It contains no audio. Most musical intrument can play or sing the score.

Like sheet music, any sound(s) can play the midi data - 8bit/22kHz audiowave,
48bit/96k digital sample of you snoring, 0bit/0Hz analog FM, & more.

[Zetti]

Hi all,

My Receiver can't decode 96Khz/24 bit audio to surround 6 channels, it just emulates stereo on this audio digital signal

..BUT...it has 6 analog audio inputs...

I wonder, if I hook up the analog outputs of the PIONEER DV578A-S player into the 6 Receiver inputs, and play SACD or DVD-A (NOT DVD-Video !), will I be able to enjoy the surround audio ?

Thanks,

Zetti

[Hardcoreruss]

I know of one because I was looking at the specs on the Pioneer site. It's the Pioneer DV-575A. I did a reasearch once and found it for as low as 172€ (I'm in €urope). You should be able to find it for less than 150$ if it's USA you live in.

Plays dvd-audio and mpeg-4 too.
Ask around, somebody might be able to tell you if it's worth the buy.

I have one of these very good player, pal/ntsc progressive scan also.

I was under the impression that most SONY players offered SACD support.

[zleepy]

Zetti
Most SACD players use your 6 analog inputs.

FWIW
I've read that SACD players that uses a single digital cable,
costs well over us$1,000.00

[Wiener]

I got the Samsung DVD-HD745 two weeks ago, it's at Euro 156, quite good value since it can play all the normal formats (DVD/VCD/JPG/MP3 etc.), divx (including those encoded with QPEL), SACD and DVD-Audio.

SACD and DVD-Audio can only be played with receiver over 5.1 analogue connection. The sound is wonderful with SACD I have to say, spacious and clean.

However there's no DTS decoder for the analogue output for this player.

There's also firmware update for new features concerning the mpeg4 playback, unlike Pioneer which does not provide any update for the divx player.

[Hardcoreruss]

Zetti
Most SACD players use your 6 analog inputs.

FWIW
I've read that SACD players that uses a single digital cable,
costs well over us$1,000.00

All SACD and DVD-A players use the 6 analog inputs.

[zleepy]

I remember seeing a spec sheet for a $4,000.00 Pioneer (maybe sony) that
had digital SACD output.

Any one curious should google for it.

[Zetti]

Thanks to all that replied, actually, I haven't received the e-mail notification of the reply...

Just after making the question, I realized ALL SACD'S and DVD-A's REQUIRE ANALOG connection, thanks to all;

I've been thinking about the PIONEER DV578-AS, indeed one user notified it plays +R DL..........I wonder...do you think it'll play upcoming -R DL format ?

Thanks,

Zetti

[Wiener]

yeah that digital SACD connection only can be connected to special digital receiver from the same brand... I think that is the one from Denon?

I remember seeing a spec sheet for a $4,000.00 Pioneer (maybe sony) that
had digital SACD output.

Any one curious should google for it.

[Sulaco]

as far as i know, all of the new sony dvd players will play dual layer dvd's fine. i have an older 5 disc changer and it plays every format of dvd recordable there is. it doesn't do sacd or dvd-a but i don't care about those anyway. a good reference quality cd sounds so good, you have to spend a ton of money to get better results with sacd or dvd-a.