The Riaa loses again

[bazooka]

This is good news.

Kazaa 'not going to be shut down'
Reuters
December 06, 2004, 11:55 GMT
Reuters


A judge has ruled out ordering the popular peer-to-peer network to shut down, telling music industry representatives that they are 'not entitled to control the Internet'

The rest of the story is here
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/ecommerce/0,39020372,39179046,00.htm

[Capmaster]

I'm no fan of Kazaa, but

[bazooka]

I'm no fan of Kazaa, but

I am not either cap, but the implications are enormous.

[tekkieman]

I'm still reading all the additional stories. Seems they're just suing everyone now. With all the court costs, no wonder they don't have the budget to create a decent movie anymore.

Keep it up! I haven't bought a CD in years, haven't been to a theater in almost 20 years, and I'll have no problem not buying or renting DVDs either. Just go ahead and put yourself out of business.

[thecoalman]

haven't been to a theater in almost 20 years, and .

The last time I was in the theatre it cost me $35 bucks for 3 of us..... the last time.

[Doramius]

About dang time. Needs to happen again to them and on a larger scale.

[888888]

I haven't bought an RIAA member label CD in a very long time. I have also stopped many of my friends from buying these CDs and in effect paying for the suing of people.

[Forum Troll]

The recording industry has enjoyed a monopoly on the production and distribution of recorded sound for some 130 years now. So, when a new techonology (the Internet, affordable cd burners, etc.) comes along that they cannot control and makes their business model obsolete, they scream bloody murder. Humans want to do things the easiest and most convenient way possible. Digital distribution is just that. The RIAA has done things the same way for so long, to change for them would mean the end. Let's face it, the age-old adage is true in this case: it's survival of the fittest - evolve or die. Either the RIAA and the industry as a whole evolves their business model to the new digital age, or they go the way of the dinosaurs.

[RIAA]

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

[Capmaster]

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

You're right ....

[bazooka]

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

What kind of circular logic is that?

Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

[yoda313]

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

What kind of circular logic is that?

Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

Hello,

You,ve been accused of the same thing in the computer forum

Kevin

[VCDHunter]

You,ve been accused of the same thing in the computer forum

Yes but some people in the computer forum need the obvious pointing out to them

[yoda313]

You,ve been accused of the same thing in the computer forum

Yes but some people in the computer forum need the obvious pointing out to them

Hello,

Got a point there

Kevin

[bazooka]

I may have pointed out the obvious, but I did not use convoluted circular reasoning to state the obvious.

[Cobra]

I think the music industry is just screaming out because they can't charge whatever they like any more. £14 for a new album is indecent. Apple's iTunes is a step in the right direction - a generous 30-second full-quality preview of the song, as many times as you like. No MP3 rubbish - high-quality AAC. Allows burning to CDs and from there you can rip to whatever format you like - loose DRM restrictions. Also allows sharing of all downloaded tracks over a network with friends.

However, it is still 80p per track which is a bit much considering the actual cost to them, and the fact that you do not get any physical property or artwork etc. that makes buying a proper CD so nice. Drop the price to 30p per track, and I'll be downloading masses.

The movie industry will face this problem too, more so than they do just now. They have also enjoyed the ability to charge whatever they like. Region coding was blatent price fixing. That is also changing.

They just need to respect their customer base, listen to what they want and react to it. They also need to start charging a fair price. Do that, and I bet that piracy all but disappears overnight.

[Doramius]

The only thing, it seems, that is still holding is the PAL & NTSC formats. And they are falling down too with computer VGA. I honestly would like to see 50-100+ different satellite companies offering service to anywhere in the world. Pick up any channels you feel. You just subscribe to the company(s) you want to receive and even the channels you want from them. But there's too much regulation set up to allow that to happen anytime soon.

I agree with companies charging a fair price for movies too. If you charge a fair price, then why would someone spend the time and money themselves to DL and burn the movies themselves. Only people that would do that are crazed hobbyists that have way too much free time on their hands and are addicted to the DL bar making sure it makes it to the end. Er...So I hear.

[themichael]

The music industry fought player pianos, steel wire recorders, DAT, and every new technology that has, and will come out.

In some places blank media comes with a "pirate tax" added to the cost. In the US if the media doesn't have a general label or "data use" then it also has the "pirate tax".

Go stock up on your RIAA toilet paper and anti-RIAA clothing for when the music police come and visit ( www.jinx.com ).

[Doramius]

I already got bumper stickers and I should be getting my anti-WRAMPIA sticker soon. At least Kazaa threw a book of legal dispute down their throat.

[adam]

In some places blank media comes with a "pirate tax" added to the cost.

That place would be Canada, and it is the only country I know of that has such a tax. But this has nothing to do with the RIAA. You would have to go complain to the CPCC.

In the US if the media doesn't have a general label or "data use" then it also has the "pirate tax".

I'm pretty certain this isn't true. The US definitely has nothing like Canada's tax on recordable media.

This latest ruling is no suprise. To argue that P2P is contributorily infringing on copyrights is ludicrous.

[bazooka]

The US definitely has nothing like Canada's tax on recordable media.

I beg to differ with you.

The music cd-r's have a tax on them already for this reason.

It was added in 1992 with the audio home recording act.