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  1. OK
    I didn't really know where to post this question since the topics are very quarantined on the forums, I felt like my question kind of bled into a few different ones, so I just posted here...
    At any rate, here's my stupid little question...
    After I've edited standard DV footage in FCP Pro 4.5, and I've exported it to Quicktime conversion directly from the timeline, I can't seem to find a good quality format for burning to DVD, even though I'm picking "best quality" Quick time video settings, all images of high contrast, deep blacks, and cross dissolves pixelates and or leaves tracers. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it Please, would someone tell me if there's something I'm missing when coverting to quicktime for DVD on FCP that's preventing me from retaining a pristine picture
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  2. Personally i think this forum would have been a better place to post.
    If you want to burn onto a dvd then it needs to be in mpeg2 format.
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    Why don't you export it to avi and convert to dvd/mpeg2 with ffmpegx.
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  4. Originally Posted by iooi
    If you want to burn onto a dvd then it needs to be in mpeg2 format.
    Exactly.

    Quicktime I have heard of
    FCP Pro 4.5 is something I have never heard of. Is this a MAC question by any chance, if it is I can move you to the MAC forum where you will probably get more help.
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  5. Yes, FCP is "Final Cut Pro", Mac's NLE. Then I guess it probably would be best in that suggested forum, thanks bugster... 8)
    And thanks Deckard for your suggestion, but the Mac I'm working on is the school's, so I'm unable to install anything like that on the system.
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    If you have DVD Studio Pro 2.0 or above, it comes with a great MPEG2 encoder (and a standalone converting app called Compressor) which gives you a great deal of encoding options and filters in an easy-to-use interface. I would highly recommend getting that.
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    Compressor also comes with FCP, so the machines you are using should have it. you can 'export using compressor' from your timeline. Once in compressor, you can set it to encode to mpeg2 using one of the supplied presets. I ussually use 60min high quality. you can vary the quality & quantity of footage by creating your own settings if necessary.
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    But does the MPEG2 encoder come with FCP? I thought it was just with DVDSP...
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    Well DVDSP can encode to mpeg2 without using compressor, but FCP can't unless you 'export using quicktime conversion' and then choose quicktime's mpeg2 export (and I can't remember exactly where that one comes from). In any case, compressor is a a possible solution for Digigenic.
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    I'm not sure either, I already had DVDSP when I got FCP4, but it certainly sounds like you can export to Compressor's MPEG2 with just FCP4. From the site;
    New in Final Cut Pro HD
    HD, SD, DV over Firewire:
    Capture DV, SD and HD over FireWire.
    RT Extreme HD:
    Add effects, filters, transitions and preview in real-time.
    XML Workflow:
    Integrate workflow using Final Cut Pro HD’s XML data format.
    Digital Cinema Desktop:
    Watch HD, SD and DV over DVI using an Apple monitor.
    Award-winning Interface:
    Edit with the Emmy award-winning interface.
    Flexible Workspace:
    Customize most aspects of the keyboard and interface.
    Color Correction:
    Correct color in real time to achieve picture perfection.
    Motion Integration:
    Add motion graphics to Final Cut Pro HD projects seamlessly.
    Compressor:
    Encode DV, SD, and HD content to MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 in pristine quality.

    Soundtrack:
    Create custom soundtracks and audio to score your project.
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    Render final output to virtually any professional format.

    http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/
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    Compressor is included with FCP 4.5, just can't remeber, is it installed as default. Take a look at your FCP discs. And Applications folder, at least that's where I have Compressor.[/b]
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    Here's another option, from the following website:

    http://www.lafcpug.org/tutorials/basic_fcp4_mpeg2.html

    This is a very brief, down and dirty explanation of how to bypass Apple's compressor application and use QuickTime Conversion instead. If Compressor is giving you any trouble at all, you can use this method. Following the QuickTime Conversation process, an extremely brief instruction on using A.Pack to convert 2-Channel AIF to 2-Channel AC3 is also provided.
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  14. Thanks everybody,
    I've almost got it, I went through compressor and I'm able to do an MPEG2>ALL entry then it goes through batch processing and spits out the file for playback, however the audio doesn't accompany the video file, I end up with two seperate files, one for video, and one for audio, why isn't the audio encoded with the video in the same file at the same time
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    You then use a DVD mastering app, like DVD Studio Pro to make a title consisting of the video track, and whatever audio and subtitle tracks you want. Then, it will master a DVD folder with video and other tracks combined.
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  16. Originally Posted by Diggenic
    why isn't the audio encoded with the video in the same file at the same time
    You REALLY should go through the tutorials for FC and DVD SP.
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  17. Originally Posted by sdm
    Well DVDSP can encode to mpeg2 without using compressor, but FCP can't unless you 'export using quicktime conversion' and then choose quicktime's mpeg2 export (and I can't remember exactly where that one comes from). In any case, compressor is a a possible solution for Digigenic.
    Actually on of the BEST MPEG encoders out there comes with FCP. COMPRESSOR that thing rocks!

    EDIT: opps never mind
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    OK, the "artifacts" you typically see on screen do not show up on a television.. Playing DVD content on the computer take a lot of horsepower. Today's computers can handle it, but not long ago they could'nt....
    Do not ever trust your monitor for a great "preview" of a DVD. You must use an external NTSC monitor to get a real good idea of how colors will shift, and how animations/effects/transitions will play on a completed DVD...

    What exactly is the machine you are using? CPU/RAM/Hard Drive speed.....
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    Not only that, but you must also use an NTSC monitor to check how much of the menu you designed will get cut off (TVs don't display the full image for some insane reason), and make sure everything is visible and legible.
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  20. Originally Posted by WiseWeasel
    an NTSC monitor
    ????? Computer monitors are neither NTSC nor PAL (or any other TV standard you care to name), or am I missing something here
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    TVs are also monitors...
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  22. Originally Posted by bugster
    Originally Posted by WiseWeasel
    an NTSC monitor
    ????? Computer monitors are neither NTSC nor PAL (or any other TV standard you care to name), or am I missing something here
    No an NTSC monitor. I got an old one off eBay like this
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    I still don't see what machine you are using....You may be able to get away with not using an NTSC Monitor. But it really depends on the machine/screen you are using....
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  24. Originally Posted by MacDSL
    I still don't see what machine you are using....You may be able to get away with not using an NTSC Monitor. But it really depends on the machine/screen you are using....
    You can adjust you computer monitor for the correct (close) video colors here but that will not tell you how much overscan you have
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  25. Originally Posted by DanSlagle
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    I still don't see what machine you are using....You may be able to get away with not using an NTSC Monitor. But it really depends on the machine/screen you are using....
    You can adjust you computer monitor for the correct (close) video colors here but that will not tell you how much overscan you have
    I don't know about MAC software, but DVD authoring programs for the PC tend to show 'safe areas' to help you ensure that what you put in your menu is visible.
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  26. Originally Posted by bugster
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    I still don't see what machine you are using....You may be able to get away with not using an NTSC Monitor. But it really depends on the machine/screen you are using....
    You can adjust you computer monitor for the correct (close) video colors here but that will not tell you how much overscan you have
    I don't know about MAC software, but DVD authoring programs for the PC tend to show 'safe areas' to help you ensure that what you put in your menu is visible.
    The free ones that come with the Mac do not.
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    DVDSP does show title and action safe areas. It doesn't hurt to check that the fonts are still readable at standard definition resolution though...
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  28. Originally Posted by DanSlagle
    Originally Posted by bugster
    Originally Posted by DanSlagle
    Originally Posted by MacDSL
    I still don't see what machine you are using....You may be able to get away with not using an NTSC Monitor. But it really depends on the machine/screen you are using....
    You can adjust you computer monitor for the correct (close) video colors here but that will not tell you how much overscan you have
    I don't know about MAC software, but DVD authoring programs for the PC tend to show 'safe areas' to help you ensure that what you put in your menu is visible.
    The free ones that come with the Mac do not.
    iDVD has a TV safe area funtion....you have to turn it on, its under 'Advanced' in the menu bar
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