Component, S-Video & Composite No Difference!

[Marvingj]

O.K. , I've just finish copy several videos using a JVC 9500 Super Vhs Vcr. I connected separately & recorded separately just to see if there was a difference. I used component, S-Video & Composite Cables. I submitted that there is no difference to my eyes in detail or clarity & color. I used Monster Cables for each. So I believe there is no big difference, only preferences? Any Opinions?

[Cobra]

Fair enough - use whatever suits you the best.

I use SCART in RGB mode, so I don't have much choice...

[pbanders]

Generally, I find the difference between composite and S-video to be very obvious. It helps when making these kind of evaluations to have a very clean source to use for the comparison. The biggest difference that I see is in color saturation and bleeding, specifically with reds.

I don't have any component source devices to use for testing, but from what I've heard, the difference between component and S-video is smaller than the difference between composite and S-video.

[Marvingj]

Maybe I need a Cheaper SVHS VCR to be accurate. But according to what was recorded on the JVC 9500 no noticable differences.

[chas0039]

Do some digging around on the web. I seem to recall some very technical explanation about JVC recorders and how they processed an incoming signal. It is possible that even though there is a big difference when the signal is sent, there is less of a difference after recording due to JVC. I know that this was true for an older Sima box I had.

I do know there is a significant difference when the different methods are used for viewing.

[knotnow]

I didn't notice a difference either when capturing from the S-video or the composite outputs on my JVC SVHS camcorder to the S-video or the composite inputs on my Pixelview xcapture card (720*480 res). No difference in the mpeg2 files or the finished dvd.

[wulf109]

The JVC 9500 doesnot have component inputs,so how did you input the signal. To me there is an obvious difference in output of the S-video and composite outputs,but you would need two 9500's to A/B there outputs thru a video switcher.

[BrainStorm69]

I've done a comparison with my JVC HR-S9900U. If you compare individual frames from captures of the same material, you will notice a difference between composite and s-video. The main difference is in the color separation and a little better detail.

Now whether or not the differnce is really noticeable on your finished DVD may be another question. But it's very hard to compare moving video. I just feel better knowing that I got as much quality in th capture as possible, even if I'm not completely sure if it's really noticeable in the final product.

[Nilfennasion]

Fact: Composite combines both colour signals and the monochrome signal into one signal.

Further fact: Once you combine all three signals, they can no longer be perfectly separated because of the fundamental limitations of the PAL and NTSC systems.

Result: On a composite display, shimmering dots will always be discernable at the edges of colours. This is most noticeable on burned-in text and the selection icons in menus. I used to play games of Now You See It, Now You Don't using the dotcrawl in the selection bar on the menu for Hard Target in order to show why every television should at least have S-video. There is also one delightful artefact called cross-colouration that shows up in monstrous fashion on things like white business shirts in composite, but usually magically disappear in S-video.

The difference between S-Video and Component is more subtle, but having seen more DVDs than normally get released in a year in Australia, I notice it all the time.

I suspect the way you have compared these video inputs has done something to mask the difference, quite frankly.

[Marvingj]

I finally got the JVC DVD recorder, I will check out if there is a noticable difference in S-video, Composite & Component.

[handyguy]

With VHS, which is low resolution, you won't notice much change.

To see better picture with component video, you must have a source written with component video, like a dvd.

Then you have to instruct your dvd player to play in progressive mode.

Vhs is written in composite video, not component.

[Marvingj]

NOT TRUE AT ALL, D-VHS is written for component, s-video .

[bugster]

NOT TRUE AT ALL, D-VHS is written for component, s-video .

There is quite a difference between D-VHS and VHS

[vhelp]

Actually there is a difference. But what one poster said above, you
have to test better source. I am not saying you didn't use it, but then,
you didn't say what your source was ?

Anyways.

I would say that a noisy source might taint. And, please don't say that
a VHS (commericial movie) is noisy. IMO, it is not.., rather it's just
the machanicals of VHS
.
So, how about trying a good commericial vhs movie in another test

But, IMExperience, I do see a difference. For one, sharpness. With
composite (RCA) because it is a "merged" source, things do tend to look
sort of blurry/smooth. But with s-video, its sharper and more detail.

Use a source with some "text" in it and you'll see what I mean.

FWIW.., I used to vote for RCA over s-video - - what's the difference..
no difference.. I used to say. Today is another story.

-vhelp

[lordsmurf]

You've got me lost...

The 9500 does not play D-VHS..
VHS is not kind of test
Use a true S-VHS tape (a good one) in SP mode,
with source coming from a high quality signal

[Gurm]

Uhh...

Lemme get this straight.

You recorded, in VHS, an incoming signal... and expected to see some kind of DIFFERENCE?

It's VHS, for crying out loud!