Cowboys Cut Quincy Carter

[gitreel]

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Cowboys Cut Quarterback Quincy Carter
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Aug 4, 1:45 PM (ET)

By STEPHEN HAWKINS

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OXNARD, Calif. (AP) - The Dallas Cowboys cut quarterback Quincy Carter, owner Jerry Jones said Wednesday.

Jones confirmed the third-year player's release to a group of reporters at training camp. Team officials declined to comment until an afternoon briefing by coach Bill Parcells.

The team's Web site on Wednesday cited witnesses saying Carter was taken by car from the team hotel parking lot before practice.

Carter's agent, Eugene Parker, did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

Carter, who started all 16 games last season, came to camp expecting to be the starter again. The other quarterbacks in camp are 40-year-old Vinny Testaverde, who is reuniting with Parcells, rookie Drew Henson and unproven second-year player Tony Romo.

The Cowboys drafted Carter in the second round out of Georgia in 2001. He was named the starter to replace Troy Aikman during his first training camp, but he struggled and only started the first eight games. He went 3-5, completing 90 of 176 passes for 1072 yards, five TDs and seven interceptions.

The next year he was the starter out of camp again, leading Dallas to a 3-4 record before losing the job to Chad Hutchinson.

Last season, the Cowboys went 10-6 with Carter starting and got back in the playoffs in Parcells' first year in Dallas. He threw for 3,302 yards, but had 21 interceptions and 17 touchdowns. He was intercepted at least twice six times.

Maybe now we will advance past the first round of the playoffs. 8)

[DVD_Ripper]

Its about time -- I hear Cleveland is looking for a few good men.

[Grimey]

Whoopdee-frickin-doo.

[gitreel]

Grimey,

If you don't care, and have nothing to contribute to the thread but smartass comments, then I suggest you ignore the thread and STFU.

[northcat_8]

Hell he lasted longer than I thought he would.

Carter is not a QB, he's an athlete. Running around making plays like he did at Georgia is great in college, but there are no "Wake Forrests" on the sunday schedule.

He's fallen in the same place that Randal Cunningham and Kordell Stewart and the like have fallen. Mark my words Michael Vick will join him. McNabb and McNair have only lasted as long as they have because they cashed in athleticism and learned to stay in the pocket and throw the football.

Oh yea, I know those are some great "QBs" but they will never and I repeat NEVER lead a team to the Superbowl Title. Their teams may be good and they may make a run in the playoffs but once you reach that level the defense will defend the mobile QB. McNair came the closest but he came as close as he ever will. Defenses at that level have their shit together and play as a unit.

Case in point...name the last Nebraska QB to start at QB for a NFL team and they have had some great athletes at QB.

I hate the Cowboys, love Parcells but hate the Cowboys. It's sad for Quincy...I guess he will have to learn how to communicate now, because I've never been able to understand a word he says.

[joecav]

Another Cowboy that is right in line with the long standing tradition of high morals and unblemished ethics of that fine program. What a complete SUCKER!

[northcat_8]

At a boy joecav!!!!!!!!

Bleeding Black and Gold...Go Steelers!!!

(although we aren't going to be very good I don't think)

[Ripper2860]

Rumor is he failed a second mandatory drug test (evidently, he was in a mandatory NFL drug rehab program), and the CB's did not want to pin their hopes and devote a great deal of effort on a starting QB with those kinds of problems and 2 strikes already. One more failed test and he would have been banned, leaving the cowboys with a backup QB running the show. If they're going to commit the practice reps to someone -- might as well be to someone who can contribute long-term and has no axe over their head!.

No great loss. He wasn't very good anyways !!!


It's going to be a VERY interesting seaon !!!

[thecoalman]

Maybe now we will advance past the first round of the playoffs. 8)

Not if they play the Eagles the first round.


Hello, I'm McNabb. I know you Cowboy fans hate me know but get used to it. This is just the beggining.

[Shocker Milwaukee]

Bleeding Black and Gold...Go Steelers!!!

(although we aren't going to be very good I don't think)

Think?

Let's be honest. You'd trade your QB for McNair in a heartbeat.

Why such vitriol for the black QB? Ever heard of Doug Williams?


P.S. You're spot-on about Mike Vick.

[lordsmurf]

Good. He sucked.

[Tiny71]

Good. He sucked.

Ditto.


To Shocker Milwaukee: Just because he mentions a few QB's that happen to be black, does not vitriol one make. Why don't you try looking at the fact that they are QB's first and color doesn't matter? Funny how you brought it up. Although, I don't think McNair has EVER been mobile, so I do agree that he missed it on that one.

[gitreel]

Good. He sucked.

You couldn't have been more right if you tried.

I wish we had cut him two years ago.

[northcat_8]

Bleeding Black and Gold...Go Steelers!!!

(although we aren't going to be very good I don't think)

Think?

Let's be honest. You'd trade your QB for McNair in a heartbeat.

Why such vitriol for the black QB? Ever heard of Doug Williams?


P.S. You're spot-on about Mike Vick.

Not against black QB's. But I guess the examples I gave were all black...sorry. I coach HS football and to me they are all players...color never enters the equation.

I feel the same way about Drew Breeze, Doug Flutie, and anyother QB that has made running in college his forte.

In the NFL running QBs are going to be short lived. Every linebacker out there can run with any QB...except for Vick at this time. Even McNabb sits in the pocket much longer now than he did his first couple of years.

Personally I liked Doug Williams, but his legs weren't considered a weapon of that offense. He had a running game and a hell of a set of receivers. I also think Warren Moon was one of the greatest most under rated QBs to ever play. But he didn't have a running game behind him. He also was not trying to make plays with his legs.

And no I wouldn't trade our QB for McNair. I personally do not like McNair. He is good, don't get me wrong, but I don't like him. The absence of Eddie George will either expose him or prove him worth of the MVP last season. I think it will expose him. I didn't like him in college and I don't like him in the NFL. I don't like Payton Manning either.

I applaud Parcells for getting rid of the athlete in favor of a true QB. I think too many times the professional and large colleges get wrapped up too much in "athlete" and forget to take a player. Trent Dilfer was considered a horrible QB...but his team won a superbowl...they traded him, got Elvis Grbac (supposedly an upgrade) and they lost. Brad Johnson the same way in Tampa. He sucks...but they won. Pittsburgh is as guilty of that as anyone. Drafted Kordell who was mediocre in college...but could run. And as long as he stayed "slash" he was great, but under center, running the show once he decided to sit in the pocket and be a more traditional QB..he sucked.

[joecav]

Let's be honest. You'd trade your QB for McNair in a heartbeat.

LOL...Maddox? Maybe. Roethlisberger NOT ON YOUR LIFE!
just check out the web site my man
Future 4 time Super Bowl MVP

The Steelers will be middle of the road this year, the O-line is in shambles. Next year they will be on top again and Cowher will get his first of many Super Bowls.

[joecav]

Maybe now we will advance past the first round of the playoffs. 8)

Not if they play the Eagles the first round.


Hello, I'm McNabb. I know you Cowboy fans hate me know but get used to it. This is just the beggining.

Iggles suck and Andy Reid is a bloated moron.

[northcat_8]

I live in Ohio, in the Dayton area. I saw Roethlisberger play several times in college. One of our past players is the Dline coach at Miami. I would like to see Ben have more velocity but other than that he is prototypical. Big, strong, tall. I just like Marino or Farve velocity

Sweet website.

I think you are right. Middle of the road this year. Oline is a mess, but so is our secondary. Although, I think that has a lot to do with scheme. I am also concerned about all the Pro-Bowl linebackers that we seem to just release every year.

and yea...I would trade Maddox...but that doesn't count, I would trade him for alot less than McNair...not as "less" as say Todd Blackledge but close

And the Iggles do suck. They will be down this year on defense and I personally can't wait until they play the Ravens. I want to see Ray Lewis and that defense to beat the living shit out of Terrel Owens. If I had the money I would pay their fines.

[thecoalman]

Iggles suck and Andy Reid is a bloated moron.

[Tiny71]

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Iggles suck and Andy Reid is a bloated moron.

It is spelled MORMON!

[joecav]

Iggles suck and Andy Reid is a bloated moron.

Is that Iggle on its period?

[fmctm1sw]

Looks like the "All Weed" team got a QB to back up Todd Marinovich....

[northcat_8]

That's fine. Hate on my steelers all you want. Philly is still the 2nd city. Haven't even made it to the promised land since Jaworski and Charmichael.

and it won't happen again this year...NO DEFENSE.

The eagles might be the most unbalanced offense/defense wise since the Dan Fouts San Diego Chargers era.

And it's not like your division is the sisters of the poor. Dallas will be very good. Giants will be improved. Redskins will be greatly improved.

Philly is Pittsburgh's little brother always trying to measure up. Get a defense, get a QB, get a RB then...maybe you can play with the big boys.

[thecoalman]

That's fine. Hate on my steelers all you want. .

I don't hate the steelers, they would be my second team. Just didn't appreciate joecav's comments too much

and it won't happen again this year...NO DEFENSE.
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Never happened with defense either. If you remember the Buddy Ryan years you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. That defensive unit could possibly be the best unit put together ever. For almost two years straight they were utouchable dominating pass and rushing defense and were almost scoring as much as the offense. If they had won the big show they would have been right up there with the purple people eaters and the steel curtain. That defense was so good the remanats of it carried over for many years. I can remember one MNF game when they played Houston at houston and even Dan "big mouth" Dierdorf was speechless. They could have won with a high school offense that day.

The eagles might be the most unbalanced offense/defense wise since the Dan Fouts San Diego Chargers era.
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I disagree, they have lost a few good defensive [players but have done pretty well replacing them. The biggest problem the Eagles had last year was the receivers, with the addition of Owens that should open up a lot opportunities. I cannot tell you how many times Mcnabb was just standing in the pocket for ages with no open receivers or they just plain dropped the ball.
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And it's not like your division is the sisters of the poor. Dallas will be very good. Giants will be improved. Redskins will be greatly improved.
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Absolutley the NFC East has been the toughest division in the NFL for the last two decades, if you look at the stats the NFC has won 8 superbowls since 80 and had 3 teams that have lost, that's nearly half of them for that time period. One of the reasons the Eagles haven't made it since 80.

Philly is Pittsburgh's little brother always trying to measure up. Get a defense, get a QB, get a RB then...maybe you can play with the big boys.

Eagles vs Steelers Result is for the Eagles

1963 T,T
64 W,W
65 L,W
66 W,W
67 W
68 L
69 W
70 W
74 L
79 W
88 W
94 L
97 W
00 W

Eagles 12 - Pitt 4 , 2 T's Hope I didn't miss any.

[northcat_8]

In the Ryan years the offense was not very good. Now a days they have the offense but no defense.

The unbalanced offense/defense was based on last years team. This year however they did add Kearse but their secondary is not up to snuff and the Linebacking corps are weak. I think losing Deuce Staley will be bigger than they think. Just looking over their roster, I don't see a quality RB in there that can carry the load. I don't think they have the talent to compete against the top dogs in the NFL.

1963 - 2000 Superbowl Appearances
Eagles - 1
Steelers - 5

[jetfan]

Hey Gitreel,
At least you have Vinny, he may be past his prime, but I'll bet
that with Bill and Keyshawn, he'll do okay. Watched him for 5 years
now. I'm not a Cowboy fan, but always liked Vinny Interceptaverde as
we Jetfans used to call him!

[thecoalman]

I knew the superbowl post was coming

Westbrook and Buckhalter are both excellent running backs. Either would have gone well over the 1200 yard mark possibly more if they were the feature back. Kind of hard to get yards when your sharing duties with 2 others. Staley could have stayed home and should have IMO, as should any holdout with a signed contract. The only glaring deficiency they had last year and the years before that is at WR. Owens is going to change that.....hopefully. McNabb will finally have someone to throw the ball at which will open up a lot of other avenues.

Edit: Interceptaverde ROFLMAO. Northcat, interesting piece of trivia I came across. Ever here of the Steagles. They played during WW2 due to the lack of players.

[gitreel]

Hey Gitreel,
At least you have Vinny, he may be past his prime, but I'll bet
that with Bill and Keyshawn, he'll do okay. Watched him for 5 years
now. I'm not a Cowboy fan, but always liked Vinny Interceptaverde as
we Jetfans used to call him!

Thanx.

I know I will catch some flack for being a cowboys fan, but I can't help it. They are in my home state. I do wish we had gotten rid of the Q earlier though.

A new twist ------

Gene Upshaw (head of the NFLPA) is prepared to file a grievance with the cowboys because he feels the Q was wrongfully terminated.

[northcat_8]

I knew the superbowl post was coming

Westbrook and Buckhalter are both excellent running backs. Either would have gone well over the 1200 yard mark possibly more if they were the feature back. Kind of hard to get yards when your sharing duties with 2 others. Staley could have stayed home and should have IMO, as should any holdout with a signed contract. The only glaring deficiency they had last year and the years before that is at WR. Owens is going to change that.....hopefully. McNabb will finally have someone to throw the ball at which will open up a lot of other avenues.

Edit: Interceptaverde ROFLMAO. Northcat, interesting piece of trivia I came across. Ever here of the Steagles. They played during WW2 due to the lack of players.

Oddly enough I have heard of the Steagles. I have been a Steelers fan since the beginning. My father rooted for the cowboys, so I rooted for the Steelers...we are talking 1973-74 back when Northcat was just a kitten. 4-5 years old. I have several books on the Steelers and the Rooney family etc. and the Steagles are mentioned in one of those books.

As far as Westbrook and Buckhalter, they are decent backs but I don't think they are the type of back that can carry you into the superbowl. Every year every team that plays in the superbowl has a good running back. The only real exception of a team winning without a "main" RB was the Rams and they had Faulk. Owens will help them out...I still hope the Ravens kill him when they play(not literally)....but he's the only wideout you have. Pinkston, Mitchell and McMullen...I just don't see another "Quality" wideout in there.

I just don't think a QB dominate team can win the superbowl. Elway couldn't win until they got Davis. Bradshaw didn't win until Franco. As much as I hate to say it...I think the Cowboys will in that division. Parcells took them along way last year with a terrible QB and 2nd rate running backs. Vinny is no Montana but with George he won't have to be.

[thecoalman]

Philly is Pittsburgh's little brother always trying to measure up. Get a defense, get a QB, get a RB then...maybe you can play with the big boys.

So what's your thoughts on the Eagles D, QB and Westbrook now? :P

[gitreel]

Mcnabb should go sit on his thumb.