Quality of Converted VCD from DVD

[d_unbeliever]

If you convert a original DVD to VCD, is the converted VCD as clear as an original VCD...

I got original DVD and i want it to convert it to VCD...i know i can buy original VCD or i can back up in another blank DVD and i don't have to undergo the painful process of converting, but i want to it also in VCD format...

is the converted VCD (from original DVD) as clear as an original VCD? Please just say yes or no or more or less the same with original VCDs...i don't need any other comments please...

Yes, No, More or less as Clear as original VCD <<< please limit your answer to this 3...thanks!!!

[jimmalenko]

Yes.

No.

More or less.

There are too many factors for an accurate one word response IMO.

[Tommyknocker]

Yes.

No.

More or less.

There are too many factors for an accurate one word response IMO.

(Oops, sorry, not a recognized response).

[d_unbeliever]

given that i followed all the necessary steps in converting using the best programs...will it be as clear as an original VCD?Yes, No, More or less?

[d_unbeliever]

ya maybe i should add I don't know

[jimmalenko]

given that i followed all the necessary steps in converting using the best programs...will it be as clear as an original VCD?Yes, No, More or less?

What do you think ?

If you have already done it, pop it in. We can't see your handywork from here.

[d_unbeliever]

Ignored...you got nothing to contribute. :P

[jimmalenko]

If you wish.

My point being that there are a myriad of programs and methods available such that there is no possible definitive one word answer. It would just be opinion based totally on theory. In this case, it is only your opinion that matters as you are the only one who can actually view the material. It would be pretty pointless for 20 of us were to say that your copy will be as good as an original (if you do it right, it will IMO BTW), only for you to pop it in and see noise and macroblocks.

[CaseyComb]

In my humble opinion...they look better than offical VCD's. I've seen some official release VCD's that aren't so good. For instance an official Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon VCD didn't look as good as the one I made myself from a dvd source. This is however only my OPINION.

[jimmalenko]

In my humble opinion...they look better than offical VCD's. I've seen some official release VCD's that aren't so good. For instance an official Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon VCD didn't look as good as the one I made myself from a dvd source. This is however only my OPINION.

C'mon CaseyComb, one word, remember ?

[d_unbeliever]

thanks caseycomb

ya i just want to avoid those who talk too much nonsense , i prefer those who can answer me directly like caseycomb that's why i want to limit the answers

caseycombs since you answer sensibly and was very direct you are exempted from the one word answer i wish there are more people like you here in this forum, direct and very sensible...

Opinion is good as long as it is based on experienced...highly appreciated

[scottie78]

My point being that there are a myriad of programs and methods available such that there is no possible definitive one word answer. It would just be opinion based totally on theory. In this case, it is only your opinion that matters as you are the only one who can actually view the material. It would be pretty pointless for 20 of us were to say that your copy will be as good as an original (if you do it right, it will IMO BTW), only for you to pop it in and see noise and macroblocks.

I see some sense in this. Your "same as" interpretation is probably different to my "same as" interpretation.

At the end of the day, I think if you do it right, you can get it looking pretty good, as good if not better than some commercial ones IMO.

Just my $0.02.

[mats.hogberg]

No.
1/4 the number of pixels. About 1/5 to 1/10 the bit rate. Not even close.
<edit>Oh - "as the original VCD" - I read "as the original DVD" Sorry</edit>.

/Mats

[d_unbeliever]

thanks guys...i hope others could also share their experiences...

so what programs do you use in converting DVD to VCD that can possibly have a good quality output VCD...

[ZippyP.]

so what programs do you use in converting DVD to VCD that can possibly have a good quality output VCD...

Smartripper>DVD2AVI>TMPGEnc.

[d_unbeliever]

do you use any filter in TMPGEnc ZippyP.? what's your motion search? can i use Mainconcept instead of TMPGEnc?

[jimmalenko]

so what programs do you use in converting DVD to VCD that can possibly have a good quality output VCD...

Eazy VCD. Very close to a 1-click solution with excellent results for either VCD or SVCD. A no-brainer.

[d_unbeliever]

thanks jimmalenko, i was looking for program like that...

ill also try the method used by ZippyP...

[jimmalenko]

thanks jimmalenko, i was looking for program like that...

There's a guide here that explains the different settings and walks you through Eazy VCD.

[vhelp]

Hi d_unbeliever

First.., my answer is like this.

Mostly likely not. (I'm basing this on the fact that you posted this question..,
or should I say, POLL)

Now, for my slight comment..

d_unbeliever, really.. we can't give you much of a "definate" answer unless
you give us some more input based on your experience. Otherwise, we are
all going to be "bias" in our answers/response

If you give us some details as to your process, we can answer you better,
based on your steps - what you should expect (again, based on your steps
or process you used so far)

I wouldn't mind seeing (as an example) a given Movie Title that you are
basing your experience (and our "bias" opinion) on so that we could help
you reach your goal. Maybe we could post a "sample" MPEG clip for you to
compare up gainst yours, and perhaps use as a gauge to helping you

Come on d_unbeliever, ..you and I both (and other here too) know that
VCD's do not look as good as the "original" DVD they came from.

* What's the Movie ?? and
* What process did you use ??

Cheers,
-vhelp

[ZippyP.]

do you use any filter in TMPGEnc ZippyP.? what's your motion search? can i use Mainconcept instead of TMPGEnc?

No filters, motion search estimate. Converts pretty fast though not as fast as other encoders.

I don't know if MC will accept the D2V file from DVD2AVI. Anyone?

[ZippyP.]

VCD's do not look as good as the "original" DVD they came from.

Good as an original VCD. He's asking if you can make a VCD from a DVD that is as good as a commercial VCD.

[jimmalenko]

I don't know if MC will accept the D2V file from DVD2AVI. Anyone?

via an AVISynth script maybe ?

[d_unbeliever]

im still planning to do it vhelp...never done it yet.
so im asking others based on their experienced so i will know what to expect...

my questions is this "is the converted VCD (from original DVD) as clear as an original VCD?" and NOT "is the converted VCD (from original DVD) as clear as an original DVD?"

converted VCD (from original DVD) compared to an original VCD NOT original DVD...

your "same as" might be different from my "same as" but you could also say your opinion based on your experienced and i would highly appreciate it.

[lordsmurf]

Progressive source, sure, close enough.
Interlaced material, almost never.

[jimmalenko]

im still planning to do it vhelp...never done it yet.
so im asking others based on their experienced so i will know what to expect...

I think you should do it yourself and make your own decision. Practice is much better than theory

[d_unbeliever]

im also planning to buy additional pc hardware to do this...and your feed back will be one of the bases if i will buy additional hardware or not...

i have also other clients who want to convert their original DVD to VCD, i don't know why they want to do that. Anyway i don't ask questions from clients as long as they pay, then i will be willing to do what what they are asking without any questions

[jimmalenko]

i have also other clients who want to convert their original DVD to VCD, i don't know why they want to do that. Anyway i don't ask questions from clients as long as they pay, then i will be willing to do what what they are asking without any questions

Just refer them to here and they could do it themselves.

[d_unbeliever]

what are interlaced material?
what are progressive source?

sorry noob on this...

[d_unbeliever]

jimmalenko my clients are type of people who hate anything anything about computer. they are afraid of computer...they have techno phobias . so i can't refer them here though i like to...on second thought i would lose clients if i do that (lol)...hmm

They don't want to do it so they are asking me to do it...maybe because they are too lazy or don't have the time to do it.