So long LCD... not so sad to see ya go.

[Faustus]

As of tomorrow I'm sellling my viewsonic LCD and getting a 19" NEC/Mitsu with an apture grill tube.

After a few months of use I can say while they look nice LCDs are NOT good enough for me on the desktop. Even with a 16ms refresh and good viewing angle it sucked.

I was sick of videos that seemed dark, having to use vivid color profile in my DVD player. And all of that while the monitor is actually ultra bright. Now to mention having to adjust the tilt of the monitor if I want to slouch a bit in my chair else things get a bit darker.

Therefore SO LONG LCD, don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out.

[808smokey]

I like LCD's on laptops that's about it. As far as flat screens they look cool but that extra 8" of "Free" space behind the monitor doens't justify the price. CRT RULZ

[Faustus]

I like LCD's on laptops that's about it. As far as flat screens they look cool but that extra 8" of "Free" space behind the monitor doens't justify the price. CRT RULZ

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[The village idiot]

Sounds like a hardware problem. My ElCheapo MAG has never made the videos look dark. And the Apple LCDs at work are fabulous and damn near perfect (for an LCD). My elcheapo (not really) Spyder calibrator did very little to the Apple LCD. Never been a fan of the Viewsonic LCDs, they have never looked very good to me. But in the end, as long as you are happy.

[Faustus]

It looks perfect, as long as you can put up with it. I can tell you it does NOT appear to be a hardware problem. I used to have a laptop and it reminds me of that... but worse cause the screen is bigger.

The viewing angle IS better then my laptop was (because its a better screen) but the same problems are there. Anyway hardly matters now, my new CRT will be in from newegg tuesday.

[redwudz]

For me more than 15", I'll take a CRT. Both for price and versatility. I like to change resolutions occasionally. Can't do that with my LCD 15".

I would rather buy a 90$ 17" CRT from Staples, even if I have to replace it every year or two. I don't mind heating the room a little, and my power bills are high anyway. A little more won't hurt.

Coming soon, a permanent replacement for the CRT!! Just not yet.

[888888]

CRT over LCD any day. LCD's make my eyes tire quicker.

[rallynavvie]

Oi, how can you stand aperture grill CRTs? I've got two 21" Sony CRTs at work and those two horizontal lines drive me crazy and tell me to do things

At home I use Viewsonic G90s. I'm a fan of shadow mask monitors. I must agree with the LCD comments. They're OK for office applications and maybe server interfaces, but when it comes to multimedia and even gaming the CRT is still a better performing option. However the Apple LCDs are apart from the rest of the LCD crowd. Of course you're paying for it though.

[Cobra]

I like LCDs. My Sharp 17" LCD is serving me very well for gaming and video, and saves a fair bit of space which is something that is at a premium for me.

I wouldn't switch back.

[Faustus]

Oi, how can you stand aperture grill CRTs? I've got two 21" Sony CRTs at work and those two horizontal lines drive me crazy and tell me to do things

At home I use Viewsonic G90s. I'm a fan of shadow mask monitors. I must agree with the LCD comments. They're OK for office applications and maybe server interfaces, but when it comes to multimedia and even gaming the CRT is still a better performing option. However the Apple LCDs are apart from the rest of the LCD crowd. Of course you're paying for it though.

I just tune them out, its worth it for the better picture over a shadowmask.

[Hardcoreruss]

I have 3 viewsonic 17inchs I as Cobra would not go back.

[guns1inger]

LCD and Plasma - technology not yet ready for prime time, but being bought by the truckload due to slick advertising, digital TV and the bloody olympics.

[Hardcoreruss]

I have plasma tv's and lcd's. Come round my house check my shit out and then say it is inferior quality.

People always bleat on CRT's are better blah blah, well I have never seen a crt with a picture as good as on my plasma.

[offline]

I have plasma tv's and lcd's. Come round my house check my shit out and then say it is inferior quality.

People always bleat on CRT's are better blah blah, well I have never seen a crt with a picture as good as on my plasma.

I see it the otherway around. People always bleat on LCD's and
Plasma are better blah blah to support their expensive investment
but I've never seen any technology beat CRT. Never.. and I don't
have a jaundiced eye.

[Hardcoreruss]

A plasma with proper connections from a good source looks incredible and there is no way I could tell the difference and would argue with anyone who said they could.

When you see plasmas and lcd's hooked up in shops they look shite. They use a crappy £100 dvd player with shitty svideo connections. Of course it looks rubbish. I am amazed how people buy from major stores when this is how they show of their screens.

[BJ_M]

you have to still pay through the nose for a good LCD , but the picture is fantastic - but i use both lcd(s) and a crt at the same time...

i use a ViewSonic VX2000 and Sony LMD-230WS - the apple and sgi displays are also very very good...

[Hardcoreruss]

Those Sony Onyx Blacks are good screens

[offline]

Hardcoreruss,

I was not talking about chain store displays. If you like what
you have then good on you. Just do not try and convince me that
plasma or LCD looks better when I and the majority of
enthusiasts in the world see different.

RGB's, Plasma, DLP, LP, LCDP, LSq are great technologies and
allow for flatter larger screen sizes and, dare I say it, a superior
overall theatre experience. CRT provides a brighter, more vibrant,
superior contrasted image at the cost of extremely limited
screen size.

[Hardcoreruss]

I still disagree. I see where you are coming from with the total movie experience. My plasma is onyl used for watching movies from which I have a very high quality source.

In a few months I am going to replace the CRT in the lounge with a plasma I will probably notice the difference then when I watch normal tv on it.

[offline]

Guess we will have to agree to disagree. 8)

I will take the opportunity to retract my earlier statement ".. and I don't
have a jaundiced eye." Such a statement is silly. We are all biased

P.S. I don't watch cable, sat or free to air TV. Just DVD docos, movies
and shows.

[BJ_M]

the topic is swinging from pc displays to home displays .... though there is now a crossover ..


ive seen some pretty bad plasma displays and i know we have had a lot of problems of burn in in ones we have installed ... but they are much better picture now on many models .. 63" plasma 's are now out also ..

but give me a DLT projector any day over a lcd or plasma ..

[indolikaa]

I have plasma tv's and lcd's. Come round my house check my shit out and then say it is inferior quality.

People always bleat on CRT's are better blah blah, well I have never seen a crt with a picture as good as on my plasma.

Not all of them are, but my workstation CRT kicks LCD ass...

[Hardcoreruss]

You can get 81inch plasmas now, not bad if you have a spare £35k lying about

[rallynavvie]

Why is the max res on that 24" so low? I get 2500x something on my 21" Sonys at work from an MX440 on a Mac G4. All that at 75 Hz per display.

[indolikaa]

Why is the max res on that 24" so low? I get 2500x something on my 21" Sonys at work from an MX440 on a Mac G4. All that at 75 Hz per display.

It's designed for people who want to have 2 Letter-Sized pages on the screen at once. I can't speak of its ability with CAD/CAM, but it's great for anything in the desktop publishing arena.

[stiltman]

As of tomorrow I'm sellling my viewsonic LCD and getting a 19" NEC/Mitsu with an apture grill tube.

After a few months of use I can say while they look nice LCDs are NOT good enough for me on the desktop. Even with a 16ms refresh and good viewing angle it sucked.

I was sick of videos that seemed dark, having to use vivid color profile in my DVD player. And all of that while the monitor is actually ultra bright. Now to mention having to adjust the tilt of the monitor if I want to slouch a bit in my chair else things get a bit darker.

Therefore SO LONG LCD, don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out.

I agree 100%

Last X-Mas I bought a really nice 17" LCD for $250 (before all the rebates it was like $500). I had it for 4 days and said it's going back. I end up with a samsung flat screen and love it.

My LCD had a 20ms, cant remember the contrast number but it was good. My mom still has the one I bought her, and she likes it. Then again, all she does is read email My biggest gripe about LCDs are that you have to use them at their native resolution for best results. We that just plain sucks if you don't like their settings. I don't use 1280x768 on a 17" for me it's just too high for text reading. On my 19" I use 1024x768 and on my 17" at work I use 800x600

[BJ_M]

You can get 81inch plasmas now, not bad if you have a spare £35k lying about

where ? we sell them i have never seen one that large ....


56-58-Inch LCD and 67" plasma's i know of ..

[BJ_M]

Why is the max res on that 24" so low? I get 2500x something on my 21" Sonys at work from an MX440 on a Mac G4. All that at 75 Hz per display.

It's designed for people who want to have 2 Letter-Sized pages on the screen at once. I can't speak of its ability with CAD/CAM, but it's great for anything in the desktop publishing arena.

the w900 is great , really great .... we have several of them .. along with FD500's ... some of the best image quality you will ever see ..

[Capmaster]

My 17" Sony LCD seems to be fairly accurate in representing the final brightness/contrast of my captures. I like the extra space too. I wouldn't go back

[ViRaL1]

If I could find 2 reasonably priced 18"+ LCDs, I'd probably make the move. Although, considering all that I'm getting out of my CRTs right now, it's pretty low on my list compared to other components.