xvid to dvd.. choppy video.. and I tried it all!

[X-treme]

Before everyone starts stating 'go look in the how to sections', let me first tell you that I have.

No matter what I do, my conversion from xvid to dvd is always choppy.
I have the xvid codecs on my pc, and can play the video fine on my pc, however, when using TMPGenc, virtual dub and TEMPGenc plus to author the video, I always get a choppy sections every 10secs.

I read somewhere that DVD2SVCD has a great conversion tool, but after trying it myself, it worked EXCEPT after burning the video to my dvd-rw and trying to play in my stand-alone it will NOT read the disc.

This is becoming a very annoying.

Someone mentioned my frames being bad (in another thread) but I have no idea how to check it. I highly doubt that they are.

Any other suggestions? I'm getting fustrated here!

[sitlet]

you can try the few progs in the tools section that can fix divx and xvid videos. other than that, i would suggest trying a few different authoring progs.

however, when using TMPGenc, virtual dub and TEMPGenc plus to author the video, I always get a choppy sections every 10secs.

is it choppy after you burn to dvd? or is it choppy when you play the authored video on your hard drive? if it only happens after you burn to dvd, it could be a media issue

[X-treme]

I have found no tools for xvid except the one codecs.

What else can I do?

[RottenFoxBreath]

when i turn xvid into dvd,i get choppy pic every little while as well.
it seems to be a PAL thing,25fps,etc.
but when i make an NTSC one,its smooth,and i have no problems,23 or 29fps,.
the only thing i can say is that on my dvd player,when i play the dvd back,it will be slightly jerky on PAL setting,but put it on auto,and it smooths out.
to put it simply,certain dvd players wont play NTSC or PAL,without jerkiness,or vice versa in the region dept.
the only dvd player ive ever had that was smooth on playback no matter what disc was in,(NTSC,PAL,regions 1,2,3,4,5,etc),was my old samsung709.it had something called "pseudo".

[Floydscruffy]

Since you are not giving much information about the avi file there is not much I can do or if you want PAL or NTSC DVD output, all I can give you is a couple of pointers on things that have gave me problems throughout the past.
following things you could try:

-Scan for bad frames using virtualdub mp3 it will make a log of the bad frames, although virtualdubmod or virtual dub I think have the same feature but will not output a txt file saying which are the badframes, anyways there are a couple of guides around explaining how to scan and repair.
-I usually encode using TMPGenc, make sure you dont use too high bitrates when encoding the video because once you add audio it may cause DVD player to stall or freeze try to keep the whole thing under 8000 bps and if the source is not that good go under 6000 bps CBR. Probably you wont notice anything different going to 3500 bps.
-If the source has ac3 audio, try to extract it with virtualdub or goldwave, some might give you a wav output, if you want your audio on ac3 there are several programs around that will convert it. The one that has worked for me is ffmpeg gui or something, besweet and ac3machine always gave me bad output.
-Always fix your ac3 file, use bslice or ac3fix, recently found out that most of my DVD that freeze at some point had sound ac3 problems and even though I scanned for bad frames these problems never showed up, but fixing the ac3 before authoring have helped.
-Are you doing a frame rate convertion. If you are using TMPGenc your should use 23.97fps(29.97 internally) for NTSC movie output or just use the templates. By the way If you are extracting the audio file separetly you have to do the frame rate conversion aswell.
-If using TMPGenc increase the priority of Direct ShoW in the global settings tab VAFI.
- Dont know which program you are using to author the DVD, I see you mentioned avitoDVD or something, I gave that a try and it just took to much space in my hard drive and it took to long. But if you are not trying to authoer anything complex use Rejig for NTSC or Ifoedit for PAL, never use them the otherway around becuse they might give you trouble.


If I can remeber anything else or if you have more info on your project maybe I can help you.

[sitlet]

I have found no tools for xvid except the one codecs

try DivFix:
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=12#12

i believe it works on xvids as well. some of the other progs on that page should also work too.

[X-treme]

I'm just repeating myself with new threads.

I've followed numerous dvix/xvid to dvd tools many times and they have worked flawlessly. No choppyness whatsoever.

The audio on all my videos are always perfect. I use virtualdub to remove the wav from the movie file. It always syncs up perfectly.

I've just tried the Dvixfix, and it shows no errors. I don't know what else to say?

What information do you want?

I follow the wizard in TMPEGenc (the same way I always do it, even in previous experiences) and just now I get choppy frames every 10seconds.

Any additional help would be appreciated!

[reboot]

Hopefully you have the room for this.
Open the avi in virtualdub, filter it if needed, and save it as raw, uncompressed, see if that works better. You could also try and frameserve it to the encoder directly.

[X-treme]

Reboot, thanks I'll give that a shot right now.

[macleod]

How about listing the specs of your xvid so we know what the source is. Like a screenshot from gspot or something like that. Basically want to know:

1. fps (and also what you are converting to)
2. bit rate
3. video length


Include the TMPGENC log file (or the settings that were used)

I have used dvd2svcd and it is an awesome tool for foolproofing the conversions.

[X-treme]

Here's a screen shot for you.

I hope SOMEONE could answer my problems now.. lol

They are split up because I don't have a place to host a larger file.

[X-treme]

[X-treme]

[macleod]

ahhhhhhhhhh!!!! The frame rate on the original is 23.976. DVD is 29.976. Did you enable 3:2 pulldown in TMPGENC during your conversion? Been awhile since I have used TMPGENC. There is a setting (believe it IS the 3:2 pulldown) that converts the 23.976 to play 29.976.

Do you have the screenshots of the tmpgenc settings?

[Abond]

Reminding from the other threads of X-treme the playback is choppy on computer also - should be OK at 23.976

[macleod]

I have the xvid codecs on my pc, and can play the video fine on my pc, however, when using TMPGenc, virtual dub and TEMPGenc plus to author the video, I always get a choppy sections every 10secs.

I looked back at the original thread and he is saying that pc plays fine, just when he authors and plays (I am assuming that would be on the standalone).

I didnt read that the first time, just assumed that is what it was. After reading the original comment, I am more convinced that that is the issue. Could the original poster please confirm?

[X-treme]

Hey, sorry for taking so long guys.

The video is FINE when playing it in it's orginal state.

After encoding it, and using power dvd to view it, it becomes choppy every 10seconds. So, even if I author to dvd, the video remains choppy every 10seconds.

It's just after encoding it that I get the problem.

I understand the frame rate it is lower. I ALWAYS use the 3:2 pull down whenever I encode divx/xvid. Whenever I read posts about similar topics, most ppl would ask the same question. Unfortunately this is not my case

Any additional help would be great!

[fritzi93]

The video is FINE when playing it in it's orginal state.

Until you said this, I was going to suggest you try what Reboot said, that has worked for me a few times. Probably won't work considering the above, but have you tried it? Hope you sort it out and tell us what worked.

[X-treme]

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[jimmalenko]

I know it's probably not what you want to hear right now, but instead of wasting valuable time and patience on converting this XviD file (with no success so far ), would you be better off trying to download a different copy of whatever it is you have and then trying to convert that ?

IMO, playback in its original state does not accurately help in determining the problem. I only say this because WMP can play a lot of video formats and "forget" their imperfections, thus "hiding" problems with the initial file. These problems rear their ugly heads at conversion time.

Just a thought.

[X-treme]

How do I 'save it as raw' in virtualdub?

'Open the avi in virtualdub, filter it if needed, and save it as raw, uncompressed, see if that works better. You could also try and frameserve it to the encoder directly'

Also, how do I use framserve? I've never had to run into this before.

[jimmalenko]

How do I 'save it as raw' in virtualdub?

'Open the avi in virtualdub, filter it if needed, and save it as raw, uncompressed, see if that works better. You could also try and frameserve it to the encoder directly'

Also, how do I use framserve? I've never had to run into this before.

To save RAW, make sure that video is set to Full Processing and in the Compression settings that Uncompressed RGB is selected - note that it takes up heaps of room.

THere is a really good guide on frameserving here.

[X-treme]

How do I just save the 'raw' video? Save avi? If I do that, it includes audio as well.

I also just tried frameserve, and while trying to process it it just sits there. I'm not sure how big the final product should be? but I know my 44byte file is not it

This is giving me a headache. It's probably something really simple too

[X-treme]

I can't save the raw video because it's too massive for my HD

Ahh... what next?

[jimmalenko]

To exclude audio, go to Audio > No Audio. I told you the raw AVI would be big, so get a bigger HD or download the movie again. You ain't gonna get this baby working I don't think.

[flaninacupboard]

if the raw file is too big, download the huffyuv codec and select video, compression, huffyuv - save as .avi

if that file is choppy then your download is screwed. sign up for a dvd rental firm....

[macleod]

what are the settings in TMPGENC (all of the settings-dont assume anything).

[fritzi93]

if the raw file is too big, download the huffyuv codec and select video, compression, huffyuv - save as .avi

if that file is choppy then your download is screwed. sign up for a dvd rental firm....

Agreed, recompress in VirtualDub, full processing mode would be my preference. Just running it through Vdub may help. No guarantees, but might be worth a try. I've done raw and recompressed, no difference in my limited experience, it helps or it doesn't. Good luck.

[baz161]

Hi

i beleive i encountered the same problem a while back and it comes from what codec is being used to do the encoding with tmpg.

from your screenshot, as u can see it tells u there are 4 compatable codecs available, using a program called ffdshow, under codecs, u can select the correct version of the xvid codec, try experimenting with that,

Baz

[reboot]

Because WMP (and other players) will hide imperfections, it's possible the original DOES have a skipping/jerky problem every 10 seconds, you just can't see it on the computer.
After some trial and error, I have a workaround that may help.
Extract audio in virtualdub, save .wav
Run the video through vdub, and change the framerate to 29.97 (or 25 in PAL land).
Convert the wav to mp2 in tmpgenc. (optional)
Remux during encoding.
If you try and change the framerate WITH audio, it could get miles out of sync.