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Officer's Taser is used on girl, 9
Posted by CodeWarrior in Industry News on May 26, 2004 at 4:16 PM
09:17 AM MST on Tuesday, May 25, 2004
By C.J. Karamargin / Arizona Daily Star
A veteran South Tucson police sergeant is under investigation for firing his stun gun to subdue a handcuffed 9-year-old girl.
At the request of Chief Sixto Molina, the Pima County Sheriff's Department is trying to determine if the sergeant committed a crime when he sent a jolt through the child's body.
The police officer used a Taser on the girl at about 5:30 p.m. May 8, Molina said. The nonlethal weapon uses a pulsating electrical charge to immobilize a person for several seconds.
"I'll be the first to admit, you've got a veteran sergeant Tasing a 9-year-old girl, it doesn't look good," said Molina.
The sergeant was one of at least two officers who responded to a call from the Arizona Children's Home, a school for special needs children, on South Eighth Avenue, he said.
"It had to do with a runaway from the institution," the chief said. He declined to provide further details.
The school could not be reached for comment late Monday. But Molina said that the facility is the source of frequent calls to his 25-person department.
Molina said one officer initially responded to the call from the school. That officer requested assistance from another officer and specifically asked that the second officer bring a Taser.
He said the girl was handcuffed at the time the weapon was used.
The sergeant who used the hand-held Taser remains on duty. His name is not being released while the investigation is under way.
"It didn't involve an integrity issue," Molina said. "The officer made a decision to do what he thought he needed to do."
Deputy Dawn Barkman, a spokeswoman with the Sheriff's Department, confirmed a review of the incident is under way but said she had no further details.
The results of the probe will be forwarded to the Pima County Attorney's Office.
"They'll have to present it to us to see if any criminal charges are warranted," said County Attorney's Office spokesman Dan Benavides. "
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We had a blind woman tasered and pepper sprayed the other day, and now, a sergeant decides that he has to use the stun gun on a handcuffed 9 year old girl
My God, how far will this have to go before someone stays STOP!
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Master of Time & Space
- Feb 2004
- Denver, CO United States
Yeah, a handcuffed 9-year-old girl is a real threat. She could break the skin or put a nasty rash on your arm if you're not careful :P
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Hello Ladies
- Jul 2003
- Studio 54
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Look at when it actually happened....may 8thOriginally Posted by gitreel
The parents must not be happy about the prelim investigation -
I fail to see the issue here. As the older brother of a veteran police officer, I am very familiar with the amount of training police go through to properly use these weapons. And I've been tased before; it's NON-LETHAL and designed to subdue someone.
First the civil libertarians scream that cops are shooting people with guns. Now they'll be screaming that they're shooting people with the non-lethal weapons they insisted the police carry! What the hell!
Either arm the police or don't arm them. Someone tell the do-gooders to make up their ******* minds.
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tasers are actually a good laugh. we had some of the non-barbed kind, good laugh zapping yourself/each other. do it on the small of your elbow and try not to punch yourself in the face!
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Master of Time & Space
- Feb 2004
- Denver, CO United States
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Wait til the fat neighbor lady bends over to weed her geraniums and let 'er have itOriginally Posted by flaninacupboardtasers are actually a good laugh. we had some of the non-barbed kind, good laugh zapping yourself/each other. do it on the small of your elbow and try not to punch yourself in the face! 
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The Old One
- Aug 2000
- Hellas (Greece), E.U.
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This means that in USA the citizens have guns and the police officers don't ?
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Good for the cop! I've long advocated the use of Tasers for parental use. My movement is one step closer!
By the way, how do you find all this shit, gitreel? Keep it coming.
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Originally Posted by SatStorm
Nah. All police officers carry guns. They also carry other weapons that are designed to not kill people. My brother carries a taser, pepper spray, and beanbag rounds for his shotguns. He's supposed to use them first, before he draws his gun.
He's also got this nightstick that you could horsebeat a raging bull into submission with. He's demonstrated it on me before. The bruise took three months to completely heal.
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Hello Ladies
- Jul 2003
- Studio 54
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Bet that taught you not to mess with his horse or bull againOriginally Posted by indolikaaHe's also got this nightstick that you could horsebeat a raging bull into submission with. He's demonstrated it on me before. The bruise took three months to completely heal.
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The Old One
- Aug 2000
- Hellas (Greece), E.U.
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Here we have Guns from WW2
They work great
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Originally Posted by stiltmanBet that taught you not to mess with his horse or bull againOriginally Posted by indolikaaHe's also got this nightstick that you could horsebeat a raging bull into submission with. He's demonstrated it on me before. The bruise took three months to completely heal.
He was training with a gun that was loaded with blanks. He told me the gun felt like it was loaded with real bullets. I told him the feeling of shooting a gun with blanks should be something he was VERY familiar with.
This was shortly after I got him a Hallmark Card that said, "Congratulations on your new bundle of joy. Have the paternity tests come back yet?"
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Hello Ladies
- Jul 2003
- Studio 54
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Originally Posted by indolikaaOriginally Posted by stiltmanBet that taught you not to mess with his horse or bull againOriginally Posted by indolikaaHe's also got this nightstick that you could horsebeat a raging bull into submission with. He's demonstrated it on me before. The bruise took three months to completely heal.
He was training with a gun that was loaded with blanks. He told me the gun felt like it was loaded with real bullets. I told him the feeling of shooting a gun with blanks should be something he was VERY familiar with.
This was shortly after I got him a Hallmark Card that said, "Congratulations on your new bundle of joy. Have the paternity tests come back yet?"
OMG
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Yeah, his wife didn't like it much either.
She's warming up to my ******* attitude, though. She recently flipped me off for suggesting pregnant women belong in the house, barefoot and tending to the chores. Her family says that's the first time she's ever flipped anyone off that they've ever seen.
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The Old One
- Aug 2000
- Hellas (Greece), E.U.
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You must have Greek blood, it is the only explanation....
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English, German and Irish.
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Video Restorer
- Jun 2003
- dFAQ.us/lordsmurf
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Light the little bitch up! See if I care.
I have a feeling there's more to this story than the reporter got.
FYI, anybody not in news, they usually stick rookie writers on the police beat. So you're getting a story from the most unqualified writer on the news staff.Want my help? Ask here! (not via PM!)
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Culero Grande.Originally Posted by indolikaa
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Originally Posted by lordsmurfLight the little bitch up! See if I care.
I have a feeling there's more to this story than the reporter got.
FYI, anybody not in news, they usually stick rookie writers on the police beat. So you're getting a story from the most unqualified writer on the news staff.
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¡verdad!Originally Posted by teegee420Culero Grande.Originally Posted by indolikaa
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I agree. Somewhere down the line kids have to learn that their actions carry consquences. I'm pretty sure he didn't taser her for going along nice and calm.Originally Posted by teegee420Good for the cop! I've long advocated the use of Tasers for parental use. My movement is one step closer!
By the way, how do you find all this shit, gitreel? Keep it coming.
On the other side of that issue, depending on what kind of "special needs" kid she is, it is possible that he tasered her for her own safety. I've seen some "special needs" kids go absolutely nuts when faced with any kind of authority or restraint...it is both sad and amazing at the same time.
The security officers where I work carry tasers or "stun guns" and the actual cop that patrols our halls carries a 40 caliber, pepper spray, handcuffs, you know cop gear...no nightstick though, probably too much of a temptation
I've only seen one kid get tasered and he dropped like a rag. His parents were pissed but hell, female security guard...2 boys fighting both over 6'0" both over 200 lbs...what the hell was she suppose to do? If she lets them fight she gets sued by the kid who got his ass beat because she didn't stop it and I'm pretty sure "stop it guys, settle down" wasn't going to work.
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Good for the cop. I ******* hate kids now. They are all punk ass little *************.
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How do you really feel?Originally Posted by devinemi83
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If there is more to the story (which obviously would have to be alot) to tag a 9 y/o girl cuffed with a taser..... is otherwise unwarranted plain and simple !!!Originally Posted by indolikaaI fail to see the issue here. As the older brother of a veteran police officer, I am very familiar with the amount of training police go through to properly use these weapons. And I've been tased before; it's NON-LETHAL and designed to subdue someone.
First the civil libertarians scream that cops are shooting people with guns. Now they'll be screaming that they're shooting people with the non-lethal weapons they insisted the police carry! What the hell!
Either arm the police or don't arm them. Someone tell the do-gooders to make up their ******* minds.Even a fool can be wise, all he has to do is keep his mouth shut -
Being handcuffed doesn't stop a violent 9 y/o from kicking a cop in the nards.....
Watch a couple of episodes of "Cops". Makes you wonder why they want to join law enforcement to begin with. -
For the drugs, of course. Everybody knows the cops have the best shit. :P
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That explains alot.Originally Posted by indolikaa
We're starting to see armed police over here too. Genuinely scary, as they ain't the most stable bunch to begin with - I know a few of 'em, they are handy to know if you're in the shit but on the whole a bunch of wankers.
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Master of Time & Space
- Feb 2004
- Denver, CO United States
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WHen I was in school I did a brief stint as a security guard. In addition to our gun we had a nightstick we called a "stun gun". It was hollowed out with a rifled barrel. It had a CO2 cartridge, and in the barrel you rolled up and shoved in a leather pouch filled with lead shot. Flattened out this pouch looked like a pancake, and was about 12 inches in diameter.
To **** it you pulled a small lever back into a locking slot. To fire it you gave the little lever a push ...it was spring-loaded. The firing mechanism would then slam the CO2 cartridge into a pointed pin, completely discharging the gas, and this gas would then propel the lead pancake down the barrel.
When it left the barrel, since the stun gun was rifled, the pancake would be spinning ....it flattened out and hit the target at about 300 feet per second or so. It was lethal if you hit someone in the chest because it could burst the aorta ...or in the head. We were instructed to use it only on the midsection.
Maybe the thing was too lethal because they faded out. I tried in vain to find one ...when I left the security firm they made me turn it in since the general public wasn't allowed to have them. I saw one movie, I think Gary Busey was in it, where the bounty hunter used one on a suspect. It lifted the guy off his feet and threw him about 6 feet backwards.
I remember during training when the instructor put up a 4 foot by 4 foot sheet of 1/2 inch particle board. He fired the stun gun at it and it left a clean 1-foot hole in the thing
Something like that would be perfect for under the car seat
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