DVD backup w/out 8GB free??

[Mystikal]

First of all...this is the guide i'm refering to...

http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdbackup.htm

Has anybody else been able to figure out this method of DVD ripping?? I keep getting an error around step 6. This step is the step where you load the .avs file that DvDx created into the Video and Audio source in TMPGEnc. Everytime i load this file i get an error Msg saying that it cannot read the file or it is not supported...something to that nature. Has anyone else expreienced problems with this? Can someone tell me what i might be doing wrong or what the guide might be missing? Thanks alot!

~Eric

[Mystikal]

By the way, just to note...i am trying to rip directly from DVD to VCD or MPG without having to make the extremely large VOB file...if anyone has a different method, please help me out! Thanks!

[Dhruv]

Hi, I'm the author of that guide and can help you. Make sure you do the following:

1)First off all when you click "Encode" in DVDx just minimize DVDx and open TMPGEnc, because if you close DVDx your .avs file will be corrupt in TMPEnc.

2}Now before you open the .avs file in TMPGEnc, go to Environmental setting click on the VFAPI plug-in tab and make sure DirectShow Multimedia File Reader is UNchecked. Now try to load it!

Hope this helps,
Dhruv
PS. Look out for a updated version of this guide with menu and chapter creation when Baldrick finds a good webhost.

[PcJockey]

Try using FlaskDecss it rips straight to mpg without needing any space for vob files. decodes at same time
only problem is you need to leave the dvd in the drive for the whole time and if you rented it it could be a problem. might not have enough time..get back to me for more info addy@freesurf.ch

[Dhruv]

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On 2001-11-10 05:07:27, PcJockey wrote:
Try using FlaskDecss it rips straight to mpg without needing any space for vob files. decodes at same time
only problem is you need to leave the dvd in the drive for the whole time and if you rented it it could be a problem. might not have enough time..get back to me for more info addy@freesurf.ch
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Yes but TMPGEnc provides the best quality.

[pinoy2201]

Dhurv is rite FlaskMpeg is not a great encoder...it is to slow and gives low sound....i do the DVDx to TMPGEnc guide when im lazy but i rip the vobs first cuze encodeing directly to from the DVD is very harmfull to your DVD-ROM becuase the motor stops alot and it might over heat and render your DVD-ROM useless

[Mystikal]

i'm not worryied about the DVD rom overheating (its under warranty...besides, a new one is only $40 bucks to me). However, i did leave DvDx open and i also made sure the environmental setting boxes were checked...but it looks like you have two more plug-in's available than i do it looks like. You have DVD2AVI and and AVIUTL project file. I downloaded these plug-ins, tried it, and it still wont' work...what do you think the problem could be??

[vitualis]

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On 2001-11-10 05:19:13, Dhruv wrote:
Yes but TMPGEnc provides the best quality.
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Debatable!

In terms of video quality between FlaskMPEG and DVD2AVI, let me remind everyone that neither of these programs encode to MPEG.

Encode a short video section to uncompressed AVI and compare the two. The quality is essentially identical. DVD2AVI is just FASTER.

The MPEG quality issue depends on the plug-in you use for FlaskMPEG. The included bbMPEG plug-in is not the best quality encoder by a long shot. However, if you use the Panasonic MPEG encoder plug-in, to my eyes, the quality is superior to that of TMPGEnc.

Quality, however, is subjective and whether TMPGEnc or Panasonic is better is a fruitless argument. You should use the one which looks best to YOU, but keep in mind it may not look the best to EVERYONE.

As for the audio, the level with FlaskMPEG is not LOW. It is just CORRECT. The audio on DVDs is normally sampled lower than audio CDs which is what most people are used to. For audio purists like me, I prefer this as I have no problems simply turning up the volume of my speakers. However, in terms of normalisation and dynamic range compression, FlaskMPEG has this option in the audio settings as well. It is just OFF by default.

Regards.

[JJamez]

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On 2001-11-10 09:31:05, Mystikal wrote:
i'm not worryied about the DVD rom overheating (its under warranty...besides, a new one is only $40 bucks to me)
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Hmm... Why go that route when you can pick up a 20GB hard drive for ~$60 and a 40GB for ~$100?

JJ

[Mystikal]

i'm not worried about harddrive space...i have pleanty of hard drive space...i just don't wanna take the time to rip to VOB, then rip to MPG, then rip to VCD...that'd too much freakin work for a dvdrip...someone help me out here...what's the frikkin problem!?

[vitualis]

If you're not willing to put some work into it, buy the DVD.

Read some of the guides that are on the net, here and at doom9's site: http://www.doom9.net

Ripping directly from the DVD is a BAD idea. You risk damaging your drive, the disc AND it takes the same amount of time as ripping to your hdd first. If you don't mind the incovenience and cost of replacing your DVD drive, then you shouldn't mind buying the DVDs either. I strongly urge you to rip the VOB files to your hard disc first. It should take no more than 10-20 minutes.

To convert the vobs to VCD compliant MPEG, I suggest you use FlaskMPEG. It is near foolproof and easy to set up. I also suggest you get the Panasonic plugin rather than use the included bbMPEG plugin as it is both faster and has better quality.

To author the MPEGs then to VCD (and burn), you can use VCDImager (with or without a GUI like TSCV or VCDEasy), Nero, WinOnCD, Easy CD Creator, etc.

Regards.

[Mystikal]

So you are saying that it only takes like 10-20 min to rip the VOB file?? Most of the guides say that it will take like 10 hours to rip the VOB file...please let me know what method/software you use to rip the VOB file and how to do it. Thanks!

[pinoy2201]

it doeant say it takes 10-12 hours to rip..maybe that was a typo or sumthing if u have a dvd-drive thats up to 16x than ur ready it only takes 10-20 minutes depending on the vobs and speed:
i use:
Samsung SD-612B
SmartRipper or DVD Decrypter to rip the vobs

[vitualis]

You are obviously confused about the terminology.

"Ripping the DVD" refers to the digital extract and decryption of the DVD data onto the HDD only. This should take 10-20 minutes.

Encoding the movie to MPEG-1/2 (which some people refer to as "ripping the DVD&quot will take many hours.

Regards.