Prodisc. or Ritek/Ridata for my Pioneer 106?

[X-treme]

Since my last post, most people have concluded that my Verbatims (mcc) are bad media. I am now looking for better media!

Here's my dilema:

After searching for which 'best' brand of dvd-r's to purchase, someone replied to a similar thread saying Pioneer recommends Prodisc, and TDK. I can't find proof that this is true, but after reading all the great reviews on Prodisc, I guess I can't go wrong.

Any complaints with Prodisc? I'm looking for longetivity for these discs. Ritek/Ridata have gotten mixed reviews lately, so i'm iffy with purchasing these. I know they have a reputable name, but recently this hasn't been the case. I was hoping my Verbatims would have lastest, but by the sounds of it they will not. So, I need a great replacement!

Lordsmurf has never degraded Prodisc in any of his posts, ever. So, I guess I can't go wrong?

I have two options for the media. One is just a 50 pack -r spindle, and the other (which costs $4 more) offers 'inkjet printable'. What's the difference? I only use fine tip marker to write the names on the face of the dvd-r, so does that mean I need the 'inkjet printable'? What about Ritek/Ridata, should I stay away?

Thanks for any help!

[iooi]

Never had a issue or seen any post's by anyone with one on the Printable GO4 RIteks.
Pro Disks seem to be the flavor of the moment but no one has been using them long enough to test data rentention of months.
Where as Riteks do hold data for a long time.
Use a A105 myself and have disk up to a year old that are still playable and copyable so long as they are Riteks.

[X-treme]

Thanks for the reply.

I could not find any information about how long these discs would last. That's what I'm scared of

Back to a part of my question above.
'I have two options for the media. One is just a 50 pack -r spindle, and the other (which costs $4 more) offers 'inkjet printable'. What's the difference? I only use fine tip marker to write the names on the face of the dvd-r, so does that mean I need the 'inkjet printable'? What about Ritek/Ridata, should I stay away? '

What's the difference?

[QuaiBoy]

I burned a pair of Prodisc S03 on my 106 and wasn't impressed. One failed and the other had more than the "standard" (based on Ritek, TY, and MCC discs) amount of errors. Hardly an exhaustive comparison, but there's really no reason for me to go with them when Ritek do so well. I also burned a 25pk of TDKG02 with varying results. Several of the discs had dye spots and irregularities, turned me off of them for good.
I'm very much surprised at your dissatisfaction with MCC discs... they've always been a great match for my 106. I've also burned over 1k Ritek G04s and had zero coasters that weren't my fault. Have you tried different firmware in your 106? I've been using f/w version 1.07 to burn almost all of my Riteks and MCC, great results.
I've done scans of lots of Ritek media burned with the 106 here:
http://www.convertingvideo.com

Site isn't done yet, but there's some info for you to check out. Basically, I've never had a problem with Ritek G04s. YMMV.
You might have a software/hardware issue. I just had to have a friend I hooked up with a 107 send it back for replacement after it started coastering about half the discs for no reason. The replacement seems fine so far.

Best of Luck,
-Evan-

[X-treme]

Wow, well I wasn't expecting a response like that

Out of all the 99% wonderful comments about prodisc, you must be the first to disagree about them

Any others?

I don't care if you own a pioneer burner, just in general.

[stiltman]

If I'm not mistaken, I think most of the people that were having problems with ProDiscs were burning with a NEC that did not have the updated firmware...I don't recall any negative posts by Pioneer users.

[QuaiBoy]

Wow, well I wasn't expecting a response like that

Out of all the 99% wonderful comments about prodisc, you must be the first to disagree about them

Any others?

I don't care if you own a pioneer burner, just in general.

If you weren't expecting a bad review, then why ask the question at all?
If you want to like them, then do so and ignore my feedback. The only way to know for yourself is to order a cake and see what happens. Research is great and all but eventually you have to take the plunge. Your experience with Prodisc might be totally different, who knows. Like I said, I only burned two of them from a sample pack.

In conclusion, out of the 99% wonderful comments about MCC discs, you must be the first to disagree about them (that I've seen).

Good luck to you,
-Evan-

[iooi]

Thanks for the reply.
One is just a 50 pack -r spindle, and the other (which costs $4 more) offers 'inkjet printable'. What's the difference? I only use fine tip marker to write the names on the face of the dvd-r, so does that mean I need the 'inkjet printable'? What about Ritek/Ridata, should I stay away? '

What's the difference?

Inkjet printable means just that, if you have a printer that is capable of printing direct to disk (Epson 200, 300, 800 at present) then you need to use these disks if you want to print onto them rather than using labels. YES you can just write on them with a pen as well.
It would seem that the printable riteks are the most reliable of the GO4's as, as yet there have been not bad feedback on them. Compared to the other GO4 dye disks. Ridata disks seem to be one to avoid at present, so i have been told by people who use a lot. Even though they are GO4 dye ones.

[X-treme]

Wow, well I wasn't expecting a response like that

Out of all the 99% wonderful comments about prodisc, you must be the first to disagree about them

Any others?

I don't care if you own a pioneer burner, just in general.

If you weren't expecting a bad review, then why ask the question at all?
If you want to like them, then do so and ignore my feedback. The only way to know for yourself is to order a cake and see what happens. Research is great and all but eventually you have to take the plunge. Your experience with Prodisc might be totally different, who knows. Like I said, I only burned two of them from a sample pack.

In conclusion, out of the 99% wonderful comments about MCC discs, you must be the first to disagree about them (that I've seen).

Good luck to you,
-Evan-

I was just making a general statement. I just haven't heard a bad comment as of yet, you're the first. Why are you so uptight my comment? I am expecting bad reviews as well. That's why I posted the question.

Anyways.. Good luck to you

Thanks for all the response thus far.

[Jackinbox]

I've burnt about 200 Prodiscs in my 106 and have had 3 coasters. The rest have been flawless. All 3 of the coasters had a visible defect in the dye. I've been through closer to 300 of the Ritek G04s and have had 1 coaster. I verify the discs when finished and never come across errors on either brand.

[lordsmurf]

Since my last post, most people have concluded that my Verbatims (mcc) are bad media. !

I've never seen this said anywhere.

[freestyler]

MCCs (Verbatims) are fine discs, they just seem to be pricier than anything out there, IMO.

My current preference is Prodisc with regards to general burning on my NEC 1300A. I make extra copies on Yudens if it's very important data.

[rgtaa]

I have a06 too and I LOVE the Verbatim DVD-r x4 movie reel ones that I bought from Best Buy a week or so ago at 14.99 for 25. MCC is Grade A ...and everyone here LOVES them ... are you sure you were Right about people not likeing them... please post link because I haven't read anything bad about them.
I have Ritek G4's too and have been useing them alot BUT after trying Verbatim's I'm useing the G4's as my 2nd string and I burn the G4'x at 2x most of the time (for peace of mind) ... and the Verbatim's at 4x.
I haven't tryed the prodisc yet.

[chas0039]

I have used quite a few G04s and S03s on my 107 and I have never seen a coaster. I did just get a Liteon to do Kprobe scans and I found a consistent pattern of Riteks errors of around 40-60 PI whereas the Prodisc consistently had errors of 80-120 PI. While both of these are well below the max of 280 it would seem to indicate a preference for Ritek.

Both companies state a storage life of 100 years; Ritek says they have tested these discs for an endurance test of 30 years. The lifespan question should become clearer in another year or so.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=226738&highlight=

[DTSL06]

I use a lot of prodiscS03 (silver and white hub) and RiDataG04 (white) printables and both have worked in all my burners (Plex708, Pio105 and NEC2500).