DVD SHRINK NTFS Only???

[vtech]

I cannot get dvd shrink to burn an ISO image without giving me an error(unable to write VTS File access deined). I can use DVD X Copy with no problem. It doesn't matter if I ripp with decrypter and try to write iso with shrink with no encryption. I am not running xp so I have Fat 32 and not NTFS PART. I saw a post saying it will only write iso if you have NTFS and I am wondering if this is true. I did have it work once or twice but usually it won't do it without the error. Needless to say I have to look at that stupid splash screen on dvd x copy on all my dvd's. I really like the way shrink works but I cannot use it so please help. It will usally write the iso untill the last couple of minutes then errors out which makes it even more frustraiting thinking okay it might work this time(lol).

[Capmaster]

I think you are seeing the 4GB file size limit for non-NTFS format HDs.

You could always increase the compression so the .ISO file size is below 4. It'll mean more compression byt DVDShrink does a pretty good job of holding the quality.

Another option is to just let it generate the .VOB files which will end up being 1GB each max.

[Firk99]

With a FAT32 partition the largest a file can be is 4 GB. That's not enough for a complete iso (4,38 GB). Solutions : change your partition to NTFS or don't write your iso to hard disk but directly to DVD.

[vtech]

I did try compression where it was below 4GB I still got the same error. I can't remember which dvd that shrink did work on but I think I have 2 of them. How would you burn directly to dvd and not HD?

[NYPlayer]

vtech,

You can burn if you have Nero installed and choose enable nero burn option.

When you use the Nero burn option you do not have to create an Iso image therefore you are not restricted by the fat32 limitations.

[vtech]

I do have nero somewhere on disk. Do you need any special version? I have been using NTI to burn my cd's but I can put nero on if that will work.

[NYPlayer]

The latest Nero works for me.

take a look at this guide.

http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/

[flaninacupboard]

vtech, installing NTFS is a good idea anyway, you can use it as far back as win98 with a little tweaking.

[Madz]

Since you're using DVDShrink, grab AutoShrinkISO and DVDDecryter (to burn). The former has a "split image" option for FAT32 drives (which splits the temp file into two parts to get around the 4GB limit) and the latter will burn (if you have a separate DVD reader and burner).

[gitreel]

vtech, installing NTFS is a good idea anyway, you can use it as far back as win98 with a little tweaking.

how, last time I checked, you could only use fat16 and fat32

[proxyx99]

Rip and encode to video_ts folder.

[budz]

how, last time I checked, you could only use fat16 and fat32

check this link:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnw98bk/html/fatfat32...ilesystems.asp
I agree with gitreel that windows 98 can only use fat16 and fat32. Only XP and WIN2000 are capable of NTFS. I have my os WIN2000 as fat32 but other partitions, 2nd hd and external hd are set to NTFS.

[proxyx99]

If you are dual booting (to old Windows) then C drive has to be FAT.

[flaninacupboard]

and google says "uh-uhhhh"

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfswin98.shtml
runs on 95, too!

[gitreel]

I would be afraid to try it, since it isn't endorsed or supported by microsoft.

[flaninacupboard]

so you never use a driver if it doesn't have the microsoft certificate either...?

[BobK]

> I would be afraid to try it, since it isn't endorsed or supported by microsoft.

Yeah- you might get something that hasn't been fully debugged. Or something that makes your system crash occasionally. Course it probably wouldn't be as buggy or crashy as Windows itself, but at least Windows is endorsed by microsoft.

[gitreel]

so you never use a driver if it doesn't have the microsoft certificate either...?

That wasn't my point. Microsoft created the windows os, and according to them the New Technology Filing System was never meant to be used for 9x, as they are customer desktop os. Ntfs was created for windows nt, which was a business os and more stable. Ntfs was later used in 2000, and xp home and pro. According to microsoft, ntfs does not work in 9x. Then you come up with a hacked program that doesn't have microsoft's endorsement. If a problem arises, you would not be able to get support from microsoft, so what is your point. So to address your question, not just no but hell no.

[BobK]

> If a problem arises, you would not be able to get support from microsoft, so what is your point.

Right- I forgot about that instant response I've always gotten from MS whenever there's a problem with Windows. Yes sir- Bill himself always returns my calls.

[flaninacupboard]

so, using a drive in a way it's not designed, with DVDshrink is fine, but using a third party app to support ntfs is just wrong?

do you really expect microsoft would offer any support to someone having trouble backing up their dvd's........? of course not. i've never had or needed support from microsoft.

[jimmalenko]

I'm with you, gitreel. Stick to your guns. If these guys want to try it, by all means, let them.

Pure and simple, NTFS was not intended for Win9x. While it may be possible, it was not intended, is against the "recommended" settings and certainly wouldn't hold up if a dispute were to arise.

[teegee420]

Another option is to just let it generate the .VOB files which will end up being 1GB each max.

I think this is the best solution for the original problem.

[jimmalenko]

so, using a drive in a way it's not designed, with DVDshrink is fine, but using a third party app to support ntfs is just wrong?

You obviously don't know/understand how DVD Rippers work. Ripping a DVD uses the drive exactly the same way as playing a DVD. I'll explain if you need further info.

[gitreel]

but using a third party app to support ntfs is just wrong?

Does that mean I should put a 33 1/3 record into my cd payer or dvd player? Of course not..... It was never intended to work that way, just as ntfs was not meant for 9x. Jimmalenko is right about rippers. The software does read a movie.

[flaninacupboard]

but it doesn't do it in the way microsoft think it should be done, you don't open the disc in wondows explorer and drag it to your HDD. hence, not the way microsoft want you to do it.

[gitreel]

I know microsoft would not help me with my dvd player or burner. I wouldn't want them to. I build computers. I can do it myself. I was saying that if your hacked ntfs wannabe third party app caused windows to melt, microsoft would not help you with your computer. Use your head man.....

[Nilfennasion]

There are limits to how far one should follow what Microshaft think should be done. If they say Windows 95, 98, and ME shouldn't be tweaked to see NTFS partitions, then so be it. Windows 2000 is really the minimum for complex media work when it comes to stability, anyway. Nothing worse than a flash upgrade to some piece of hardware failing because of a major system crash.

But when Microsoft tries to tell you how you use your DVD-Video, a supposedly universal standard...

[gitreel]

they are not trying to. they are trying to get everbody off of 9x as 9x is a security risk and is going to be unsupported in 2007. There will no longer be windows updates to keep your computer current on the latest vulnerabilities.

[Nilfennasion]

The number of security problems every version of Windows has is quite scary. It's no wonder tech-nerds like Maddox state that "beta" is what Microsoft consider to be the final release stage of their product. If only OS/2 had been allowed to develop as much as Windoze.

[jimmalenko]

but it doesn't do it in the way microsoft think it should be done, you don't open the disc in wondows explorer and drag it to your HDD. hence, not the way microsoft want you to do it.

WTF ???

That's because of CSS, nothing to do with Microsoft. You don't play a disc using a windows-inbuilt software add-in either - you need third party software to break the encryption. This is proven by the fact that you CAN open a disc in windows explorer and drag it to your HDD if there is no encryption on the DVD - case in point backed up DVDs or commercial unencrypted DVD-5s. Why ? No CSS to break.

FYI:
When ripping a DVD the drive itself operates exactly the same as it does when playing a DVD. The difference between playing and ripping is that instead of displaying to the screen the software redirects the output to your Hard Drive. Quite simple, really !

As far as windows is concerned, the DVD is being accessed as if it were being played.