Bad, over rated, Memorex 4X DVD+R

[distendad]

I bought a 50 disk spindle of memorex 4X DVD+R from Office Max a few weeks ago. The top few worked ok in my Plextor 708 burner, but thereafter trouble started. Scanned the disks with DVDInfo Pro2 and found the disks were made by CMC and the internal disk data lists a speed of 2.4. Lordsmurf rates CMC as land fill. He's right, beware of Office Max's cheapees.
Radman

[Jayhawk]

I agree distendad,

I bought a 25 pack of 2.4X +RW Memorex from CompUsa and had terrible luck with them. Their media code was INFODISC which www.nomorecoasters.com says is 2nd class media. They were junk to me on my Plexor 708A even though 2nd class isn't supposed to be too bad.

Learned my lesson. Sticking with Verbatim, TDK, and Maxell.

[synistr]

No, Memorex like all other brands use different media, u just have to know how to distinguish. The ones in where the top of the spindle cover is rounded and the bottom of the spindle is shiny black, those are Ricoh, excellent media that burns at 8x, the ones where the spindle cover is raised and has sharp edge and bottom is dull black are usually CMC, also the spindle cover of the CMC will have "Memorex" branded on it. OfficeMax has Ridata dvd+ which if the dvd is branded, they are also Ricoh, but I went to another OfficeMax and bought some dvd+ by Ridata (same style package) and the media was unbranded. These were a lower grade media, cant remember the code, but they only burn at 4x.

[synistr]

use to use Verbatim (ricoh) till I got burned with some MCC, so that cant be trusted, just depends, you really have to look at the packaging VERY CLOSELY

[-jsl-]

I bought a 50 disk spindle of memorex 4X DVD+R from Office Max a few weeks ago. The top few worked ok in my Plextor 708 burner, but thereafter trouble started. Scanned the disks with DVDInfo Pro2 and found the disks were made by CMC and the internal disk data lists a speed of 2.4. Lordsmurf rates CMC as land fill. He's right, beware of Office Max's cheapees.
Radman

Burn quality depends nearly as much on the burner as on the media. For example there are burners that perform very good and consistent results with CMC 4x +R media and some even when burning them @8x (like BenQ). Personally I think they are good "budget discs".

[badboi]

I purchased two packs of Memorex -R from Office Depot as well, and all 50 in the pack I opened my Panasonic DMR couldn't read them. I took them back to Office Depot and, to my surprise, the manager gave me two 50 packs of Verbatim in exchange. I was just expecting a refund. While there I bought two packs of the Maxell -R on sale as well. Never had bad luck with those. I've learned my lesson with Memorex.

[porphyra]

I bought a 50 disk spindle of memorex 4X DVD+R from Office Max a few weeks ago. The top few worked ok in my Plextor 708 burner, but thereafter trouble started. Scanned the disks with DVDInfo Pro2 and found the disks were made by CMC and the internal disk data lists a speed of 2.4. Lordsmurf rates CMC as land fill. He's right, beware of Office Max's cheapees.
Radman

Burn quality depends nearly as much on the burner as on the media. For example there are burners that perform very good and consistent results with CMC 4x +R media and some even when burning them @8x (like BenQ). Personally I think they are good "budget discs".

Touche. My NEC ND-2500A loves these CMC discs. Burns are beautiful. On the other hand, it just cannot burn any sort of Riteks without errors. Hence generalisations are not a good idea. I don't go out on a limb and claim that Riteks suck, just that they don't work for me. In the end, you have to determine what works for you. Period.

Cheers.

[nickelzy]

Just to chime in here...

I learned a valuable lesson just recently. I had been using Memorex DVD+R's (both Ricoh and CMC) and had very good success with them. The other day I got the new Epson R200 printer and therefore needed new media, so I decided to upgrade to a brand that most people on this forum rave about - Ritek G04. Well, my Digital Research burner didn't get along with the Riteks. Pretty much blows because I bought a Hundred pack from rima.com and after burning about 30 discs, only 5 worked fine. Today I found some Memorex DVD+R Printables at Office Max (which to my pleasant surprise, turned out to be Ricoh's) and are working very well for me so far.

I know most people on this forum say that CMC branded media sucks, but for a few of us, that isn't the case. Although I'm always thankful when I get Memorex Ricoh's, the CMC seem to work just fine for me as well. So, it's kind of like that old saying, "until you try it, don't knock it".

[DVDDave]

i mailed memorex 20 RICHO defects--they were nice enough to mail me a 25 DVD+R spindle, only problem, they are CMC with a media speed code of 2.4X. MEMOREX SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nickelzy]

Maybe for you, but for some of us, Memorex works great!

[xcool]

i mailed memorex 20 RICHO defects--they were nice enough to mail me a 25 DVD+R spindle, only problem, they are CMC with a media speed code of 2.4X. MEMOREX SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go short Memorex's stock if you are so unhappy with it.

This post is about 4X +R. jap in my 2cents here, I have no problem with Memorex 4X "Ricoh" or "CMC" on my HP 300e or OM KHypermedia burner.

[fritzi93]

[quote="-jsl-"]

Burn quality depends nearly as much on the burner as on the media. For example there are burners that perform very good and consistent results with CMC 4x +R media and some even when burning them @8x (like BenQ). Personally I think they are good "budget discs".

Might add here that your burning METHOD can affect success as well. Specifically, CMCs work well for me if limited to 4.2G or under. Rather than stubbornly burning coaster after coaster, some of you should give that a try. Think I'll even give 4.25G a go, maybe higher to see when failures set in again.

But I'll not buy CMCs knowingly if I'm forewarned, as I prefer Riteks and Ricohs. Never had to take such precautions with them.

[wiggie]

I bought a spindle of 50 Memorex 4x DVD+R's from Bestbuy, they are CMC purple dye. I burned all 50 of them with my Lite-on 811S at 4x with no coasters.

[ripit]

My experience and initial opinion as a know nothing, inexperienced, newbie. There are not two formats, + and -. There are hundreds of formats. To guarentee perfect burns, you must use x burner with y standalone, with z brand disk with p disk code, and you must use lot #?????, because that is the only way that you can guarentee the best. The standards are just not that good between diffrent manufactures. Ibm compatible used to be a joke. Now days, most equipment will work with most, but it is still not fully compatible. Still, really cheap components can be just as compatible as good ones. The point is, the best quality device is not 100% compatible. If you want to go further, you must have ??? firmware and burn at ??? speed. Change your firmware, now another speed is the best.
Don't say brand x is crap and nobody should use it. Don't say brand x was the best and everybody should use it. Say I used brand x and it was crap for me. I used this burner with this firmware and I burnt at this speed and This is how it worked. I had this many good, this many usable, this many bad, and this many really bad. this was the medial code (very important, brand doesn't mean shit). Most importantlly, go to the dvd media area, and post your results with as much information as possible. The more information we can get there, the more we can avoid the bad and get the good. You may not know all that info, I know I don't. Just post what you know, and explain in the comenets. As a newbie, that is what would help me the most, and if everybody did it, we would have a lot of information to go on.
Fyi, go find thoses upc off the package. I think that is the best id there is (except for the actual medial code, but you cannot see that in the store).
This is just my opinion. I have not been here long. I am not an expert (or anything close to it). I know very little. These are the things that help me though. I do not have more than 2 or three coasters (except princos). I have princos, that I thought were a loss, but now believe that they may be salvagable. Not top quality disks, but at leas useable.

Speaking of that subject, I would like to know when others here (particularlly the seinior members), think it is appropriate time to start posting my results on the media list. I am sitting here telling others to do, what I have not done yet. Obviouslly I fault nobody for doing the same.
I have bought 100 imation +r, 50 imation -r, 60 princos (50 office max, 10 compusa), 25 memorex dvd-rw (unless I have a personal problem, thats all the dvd rw I will ever need, under my current needs anyway), a 5 pk memorex +r's, a 10 pk memorex -r's, 50 valuedisk that I just bought. I might have missed something. I have a billion cdr's, that I know nothing about (I really didn't get smart about this thing till I got into video, starting with svcd to cd'r, then dvd).
I have used 25+ of the imation dvd-r's, and did not have kprobe, dvdinfopro etc. when I did (I can scan the old burns though). I am more than half throught the imation dvd+r's and have done scans on some, but have not kept good records. Tried a few princos, and they were so horrible, I considered them all coasters. As I learned more, I tried a few more, and now think that I might actually be able to use them. I have gotten some copys with scans resonablly under limits (and some WAY, WAY, over!). I only tried two of the memorex -r's as a pre-emtive to buying the kypermedia/valuedisk ones. Should I add my results on the media list now (at least for the disks that I have used more), or should I wait, now that I know how to scan the disks etc., am starting to keep records, and can give more qualified info???
And back to my original point. Anybody want to share detailed experiences with memorex???
:P :P :P :P
Yea, I'm done blathering, I'll try not to do it again too much
Opps, almost forgot this. 8) 8)

[VR-HOS]

use to use Verbatim (ricoh) till I got burned with some MCC, so that cant be trusted, just depends, you really have to look at the packaging VERY CLOSELY

Are you sure they are MCC not CMC? MCC are Mitsubishi made media which I found high quality

[jaxxboss]

Hey ripit
If i ever need a ghost writer for my biography I'll make sure to call you.
WHEW!

[drti2]

use to use Verbatim (ricoh) till I got burned with some MCC, so that cant be trusted, just depends, you really have to look at the packaging VERY CLOSELY

Are you sure they are MCC not CMC? MCC are Mitsubishi made media which I found high quality

I second that, MCC is the top on the line manufacturer like TY, no way they are that bad. Even their B grade stuff is better than ritek . MCC media is expensive and don't go onsale as often, usually they are about $1.50+/each. I pretty sure you meant CMC, which has a mixed result from time to time.

I personally use lots of Memorex 4x +r, which is CMC, and always have good result from kprobe, and no coaster yet using the Liteon 811s, which write dvdrom as default to +r. I like Memorex and TDK (ricoh...j01) better though, slightly better kprobe result. Though both are very good and the error never got above 100 mark for pi, and po is almost non-existent. BTW, plays on my honda odyssey dvd player beautifully, well, after I upgrade my 811s firmware for dvd-rom on +r.

So, get yourself a liteon 811s/851s or the NEC2500a and stop the coasters sh*t. Newegg has both for under $90 w/ free shipping, don't overpay for those big brand name such as plextor, pioneer, sony, etc. They are Inexpensive and good!!!!!!

[RLT69]

Anyone who wants to learn about good and bad DVD media should check out this site:

http://digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

The also have links to reputable dealers of DVD media.

[Dampier]

Plextor owners really need to use gold standard media if we don't want to kick ourselves with pixels during the second half of movies or freeze-ups in the last 10 minutes. My 708a is FUSSY. I just returned inkjet printable G04 Ritek media to supermediastore. The last 10 minutes of every burn, even at 2x, was a mess. CMC? No way. Prodisc? Pulllease. Princo? Not in this universe.

The Plextor wants MCC, TY, or Ricoh media. It also does very well with the Sony 4x DVD-R media in the jewel cases - very reliable!

I also have acquired a Pioneer A07 and a NEC2500 on discount and haven't burned a disc with either... yet. The NEC's apparently live for CMC media - they love it. The Pioneer will give you the finger. The Plextor hates some Ritek media... but the Pioneer loves it. Some Ricoh media won't do so well in the NEC, but would great in the Plextor. Argh!!! You need a score-card. The Plextor will read a disc run over by a UPS truck... the NEC will reject media if you breathe on it - very fussy about reading media. The Pioneer is a happy medium between the two.

I want to complete my collection with a Lite-On, but I've spend a ton this month already.

I wish we could get more stable performance....

[BQuick]

I think it is pointless to bash a brand or another when there are people with opposite opinions.I think one can be certain that Princos,AN31,AN32 ecc are certainly low end media,but CMC isn't of the same level.

My Pioneer 107D loves them.I ve now over 30 burns with DVD-R Memorex CMC and they all have a lovely graph both in Nero DVD speed and KProbe of which i keep the graph of every single DVD i burn.Actually some MCC i have have worse graphs (and had 3 coeasters). At the end depends on the burner and firmware.

Untill i contine seeing my graphs with Memorex FINE, i will never accept that they are crap.

I ve also burnt till now a total of 18 Memorex DVD+R Moser Baer India and they are fine too.I have just one that PO count in Kprobe goes to 6 (limit is 4) locally ,but is perfectly read and Nero DVD speed shows only "normal" imperfections.

For the money they cost,i think they are a bargain.I paied the MCC 3 times as such and had worse burns ,specially with the earlier firmwares.

I always buy 10 packs,maybe they get also a better quality control,but these Memorex have really NOTHING to envy from the Verbatims i bought.