DVD2AVI_1.77.3 - CAN'T GET PERFECT AVIS OUT OF VIDEO VOB

[Cunhambebe]

I'm planning to rip a video vbo file tru DVD2AVI. When the file is made of, let's say, film, that works well. When the file is a video footage, the final result doens't meet my goals. I mean, the video has little kicks as the camera moves from left to right or when fast action is going on. Let's seeit: I've already tried this config for DVD2AVI

1.Audio - output method: decode to wav;
Video - Field operation: (I've tried both none and forced film)
Video - Color Space: YUV: 4:2:2
Video - YUV > RGB: PC Scale (I plan to watch on tv though - didn't select TV Scale because of those border around the screen)
File>Save as AVI> Huffyuv> configure>RGB compression method>Convert to YUY2 (without this, "convert to YUY2", selecting YUV above (in color space); does not work at all).
Result: video has some kicks...don't know if I could call this drop frames..

2.Audio - same as above
Video - same as above (none or forced film)
Video - Color Space: RGB 24 bit
Video - YUV>RGB: PC scale
File - Save AVI - select no compression at all or Huffyuv
Result: same as above: video has some kicks.

Still don't know anything about this VFAPI.........any help?


Can anyone help me with this? Can anyone explain why the video cannot look as the original file (why there's always those little kicks)? Is there a way to fix this?
Thanks in advance!!

[Cunhambebe]

What about gordian knot?????? Does it work well for avi?

[BJ_M]

how about throw the vob into virtualdubmod and save it out as a avi ...

[Cunhambebe]

Well, I don't know how would I do without your help. Thanks again, for your valuable help and interest. I don't know why the difference in quality when I convert a movie .vob to avi (excellent) and a simple video .vob to avi (terrible). Anyway, I'm going to try this version of virtualbub. Hope it's gonna work for the video. I'll post some news back here as soon as I see the results. Thanks!

[Cunhambebe]

The quality with virtualdubmod is terrific, but I still have some problems:
1.My HD is formated as FAT32. DVD2AVI can handle with that since it creates a series of avi files. Virtualdub can't (but the quality is the goal here, anyway).
2.Is there any way to fix this without converting to ntfs?
3.When I encode as UNCOMPRESSED RGB - audio with the avi file is totally out of sync, but the quality is excellent (no video kicking anymore). When I encode with Huffyuv, audio is OK, but those video kicks appear once again.

What should I do? - format to ntfs and keep encoding as uncompressed rgb (when I finally convert again to mpeg2, will this audio sync problem be automatically fixed?)

ONE MORE THING: CAN I CONVERT DIRECTLY FROM AVI TO MPEG2?


Thanks

[BJ_M]

v-dub can split the files to any size you want .. just look at the options in "save as"

dont know what you mean "kicks" -- this might be simply pauses in your hard drive playback and not visable in a finished dvd / project


you can encode from avi to mpeg2 -- sure , i think you asked that before ..
that's how it is ussually done ..

[Cunhambebe]

Thanks for taking time to respond. Let's see something:

Sorry, but the question on encoding from avi uncompressed rgb to mpeg2 is about the problem with the audio sync (audio is totally out of sync when u play the final avi file with Windows Media Player or Power DVD). Note that I am having this problem as I tried to save as avi with virtualdubmod uncompressed RGB. Hope this can be fixed.

About the file size: I've just found out this option, sorry (the learning process IS difficult, isn't it?)

Found out another cheap way of doing this kind of vob conversion: de-multiplex with TMPGENC, Multiplex later, try to edit (I konw it's not the correct way) the MPEG2 file. What do u think?

Thanks again BJ_M (when I finish my project, I promise to send u the final result).

[BJ_M]

i never really have audio sync issues with anything - except when i know exactly why ... so its hard for me say why you (and others) seem to have so many issues with it (then agian i am syncing audio and film/video all day long and dont really even think about it) ..

it seems like some computers just de-sync on playback (the issue of its in sync on standalone and not on the pc) ..

anyway -- yes you can demultiplex in tmpgenc (its not an incorrect way - just diff.)

[Redd]

Here's a guide for DVD2AVI. Hope you find it useful.

http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/DVD2AVI.htm

[Cunhambebe]

Thanks again.
The problem is: save file within Vitualdubmod as avi uncompressed RGB. When u play the file, audio is totally out of sync. That's it.

"anyway -- yes you can demultiplex in tmpgenc (its not an incorrect way - just diff.)" What's that slang please? diff, just do it if I can't do it the other way...is that what u mean?

Very special thanks to Redd. I took a look at that DVD2AVI guide. I don't know why THE GUIDE says as well as everybody...NOT TO SAVE AVI FILE, BUT TO SAVE THE PROJECT INSTEAD. I JUST WONDER WHY BECAUSE I DARED TO DO THAT (SAVED AN AVI FILE) AND THE RESULT TURNED OUT TO BE OK).

THANKS

[Cunhambebe]

? ? ? ?

MPEG2 de-multiplex and multiplex may work well, but later after editing, you start to have the same trouble discussed last weekend in another topic: MPEG2 rendered with MC don't have the same quality as if it'd have if rendered with TMPGENC (MC makes the video a little blurred). Working from the (Vegas) timeline tru Debugmode Vegas Plug-in doesn't work it either since tru this way you cannot configure the option "Clip Frame>Arrange Setting>No Margin (keep aspect ratio) in TMPGENC. I guess the best way to convert DVD vbo to AVI (for editing) and then later to MPEG2 again, is to convert first to AVI, fixing the problem I've experienced with DVD2AVI, and then, after editing, opening the AVI file with TMPGENC for rendering as MPEG2.

Thanks as always!