Finished product only plays in VCD/SVCD compliant DVD player

[biggdogg2800]

I hope someone can help.
This process works fine from beginning to end but the finished product only plays in vcd/svcd compliant dvd players.

My dvd player (norcent lhnt2000) lags when I play vcds/svcds but when I burn a dvd with my DVD burner, it works perfectly. So I thought that SVCD2DVDMPG+ would answer all my problems. But, like I said, it treats the finished DVD the same as a finished VCD/SVCD and it only works in VCD/SVCD players.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks for a great product.

BiggDogg2800

[Gurm]

That, pretty much, is the drawback. Although it MIGHT be a case of the MP2 audio. You could try the AC3 audio, but some players just aren't going to play these suckers due to the fact that they just don't handle 480x480 MPG2 video streams particularly well (or at all).

Right now this program is at a bit of a sticky point. The AC3 audio that BeSweet produces is pretty buggy, so until CB gets the time to implement some OTHER AC3 encoder, we're stuck with MP2 audio (especially those of us with Pioneer players, for whom the AC3 audio is just crackles and pops). But the MP2 audio isn't compatible clear across the board. Some players REQUIRE there to be at least one AC3 stereo stream on the DVD in order for playback to happen properly.

You can cross your fingers and hope that:

1. Your player is one of those...

and

2. The AC3 that BeSweet produces will WORK with your player.

Otherwise you're on the "wait for the bugs to get ironed out" list.

And, there's always the possibility that it has NOTHING to do with the audio, and your player is on the (not insubstantial) list of players that just don't want to play SVCD video.

Now what someone needs to write is the equivalent of DVD2SVCD, but in the other direction. Because re-encoding SVCD video is FAR from straightforward.

- Gurm

[Suprnaut]

I havn't tried this yet, but I was wondering if putting SVCDs on a DVD will fix the problems my stand-alone has with SVCDs encoded higher than 1650 br. Basically my standalone plays every SVCD, it can't, however, handle higher br SVCDs. Does anyone know if by putting it onto DVD will fix that issue? Otherwise I will have to reconvert the SVCDs first which will be a pain.

[Gurm]

MANY players, actually, that can play SVCD's...

Are fine with you using VCDGear or some other program to make a REALLY BIG SVCD, and burn it to DVD in SVCD format.

This is a substantially DIFFERENT goal than what SVCD2DVDMPG+ does.

- Gurm

[Suprnaut]

Gurm: My goal as Im sure it is with a lot of people is to have the highest level of compatibility. Which method is more compatible?

[Gurm]

Hmm... tough call.

Here's the breakdown:

1. Can the player support 480x480 resolution? This is a mixed bag... but many players can, even if it isn't advertised. If the answer is "not at all" then NONE of these methods will work.

2. Can the player support SVCD format? Meaning the directory layout and reading the SVCD information files... this too is a mixed bag.
2a. Does the player check media type? If it does, then a BIG SVCD is right out.

3. If the player DOES support 480x480 but DOES NOT support SVCD format, then the DVD-SVCD method used by SVCD2DVDMPG+ is the most viable.

So the question is WHICH is more prevalent:

Players which WILL do 480x480 but WON'T do SVCD format?

or

Players which WILL do 480x480 but WILL do SVCD format?

I'd say the answer is PROBABLY the latter, meaning that a REALLY BIG SVCD _should_ be more compatible. But, when adding in the issue of media sensing... and rotation speed... you probably come up 50/50 again.

The only SURE way to do this is to upsample the movie to DVD resolution (or downsample it).

- Gurm

[Gurm]

But now that I think about it there's another class of DVD player...

One which supports NEITHER SVCD format NOR 480x480, but which, when faced with a 720x480 movie with only 480 bits of horizontal information... will pad it out.

I think THAT fills up a lot of the gaps and makes this header method more worthwhile for the greatest compatibility.

- Gurm

[duhmez]

My $.02

A REALLZY BIG SVCD image burned to DVD-R, will be less compatible. Probably most players will check the disk type, and if a DVD disk it will not look for the svcd info, and choke. However this same player with svcd capability, we KNOW CAN play 480x480, and in dvd format it WILL find the video, so should work better.