this is serious stuff

[luvvbuzz]

quoted from www.theinsider.org

BBC TO BROADCAST ENERGY CRISIS PREPARATION FILM

At 2100 HRS on Wednesday, 10th March, Britain's state-owned media
corporation the BBC is scheduled to broadcast a warning about energy
supplies running out in 2010.

Until the 1970s, British public information broadcasts were simply adverts
carrying brief message such as "nice people wait in line at the bus stop".
Modern public service broadcasting is more subtle, with important messages
wrapped in presentable packages - typically a documentary or reality TV
show. Well-known recent examples include various "docu" and "drama" series
from the BBC and ITV following the work of the emergency services, and
"How clean is your house", a light-hearted series on Channel 4 in which
two mother-figures visit peoples homes to promote hygiene.

If you are in Britain on Wednesday night, you should watch BBC 2's
docu-drama. While you watch, bear in mind that the latest figures predict
a world energy crisis between 2010 and 2020, when there will no longer be
enough oil and gas available to meet rising global demands.

The first warning signs will be the power cuts. They will be few and far
between at first, so you will have time to get used to them. Over the next
ten years, these power cuts will become longer and more frequent, until
the electricity is off more than it is on. As the world's major powers
fight for the last remaining energy supplies, the Middle East will be
carved up and shared-out like meat for hungry lions, setting the stage for
the last great war.

In the West, where a few percent of the world's population control almost
all of the world's wealth and resources, few people will survive the
second winter with no heating, no water on tap, no food in the shops, and
little but leaves and raw animals to eat. The poor people of the
third-world, who are used to survival without modern amenities, will
prevail. As a wise man once said: "Blessed are the meek: for they shall
inherit the earth.".

Every great civilization must come to an end. Oil is the life-blood of the
developed world, and we are bleeding to death. The end of fossil fuels
means the end of civilization as we know it.


SOURCE

BBC Two, "If... The Lights Went Out", 9 PM, Wed, 10 Mar 04.
[
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/programme.shtml?filename=20040310/20040310_2100_4224_15945_60 ]
...
The scenario is fictional, but the interviews and the issues are real.
If... is a new series of drama documentaries that takes the major issues
of the day and projects them into the near future. Interweaving inventive
storytelling and rigorous journalism, and drawing on evidence and
predictions from internationally respected experts and commentators, If...
offers an authoritative reflection on the decisions being made in
contemporary Britain today.
If The Lights Go Out is set in the winter of 2010 and Britain is
struggling to generate enough electricity to cope with demand. It paints a
scenario of a future in which the south-east of England is plunged into
darkness. Householders are left with no water or electricity, traffic is
gridlocked, tube trains are stranded underground and airports closed.

[BJ_M]

glad i dont live there -- no problems over here ...

[lenti_75]

you think that will be in UK only ???
you think that if you live in Canada nothing happens there ???? or maybe you don't use electricity and oil....
think twice, DUDE....

[luvvbuzz]

it affects the world over, oil is running out dude, the whole reason for the iraq war was for the west to gain more control over their oil supplies.
the big power cut in new york last year.... a trial run perhaps? seems stupid that countries will spend money going to war for fuel, but instead they could invest that money in a better sustainable fuel infrastructure. dont think that you are exempt from the forth coming fuel crisis, it affects the whole world.

[Supreme2k]

Know what else?

SOYLENT GREEN IS MADE FROM PEEEEEEE-PUUUUUULLLLLL!!!!!!!!

[Tiny71]

Pure bull crap.

More tree huggin' shit trying to scare people into buying shitty cars that have no balls, and are death traps.

[cim]

it affects the world over, oil is running out dude, the whole reason for the iraq war was for the west to gain more control over their oil supplies.
the big power cut in new york last year.... a trial run perhaps? seems stupid that countries will spend money going to war for fuel, but instead they could invest that money in a better sustainable fuel infrastructure. dont think that you are exempt from the forth coming fuel crisis, it affects the whole world.

What? Huh?

[Suntan]

Not a problem, we still have nuclear fission... 8)

[BobV]

"The scenario is fictional, but the interviews and the issues are real. "

I tend not to put faith in conspiracy theories.

[LabanB]

>south-east of England is plunged into darkness.<

Fine, I live in the North-East.....

Bill

[housepig]

Pure bull crap.

More tree huggin' shit trying to scare people into buying shitty cars that have no balls, and are death traps.

well, I hope you figure out how to run your "ballsy" car on soybeans...

personally, I keep my balls in my pants, not out on the road, but I'm secure like that...

[BJ_M]

i sure like to start a row ....



also - the power went out in new york (and michigan and ohio and ontario) because of bad programming in a ohio power facility ....

[housepig]

SOYLENT GREEN IS MADE FROM PEEEEEEE-PUUUUUULLLLLL!!!!!!!!

if you don't like it, just eat the noodles...

[luvvbuzz]

well, I hope you figure out how to run your "ballsy" car on soybeans...

personally, I keep my balls in my pants, not out on the road, but I'm secure like that...

love it!

[luvvbuzz]

also - the power went out in new york (and michigan and ohio and ontario) because of bad programming in a ohio power facility ....

or at least, that is what you have been told.

[BobV]

also - the power went out in new york (and michigan and ohio and ontario) because of bad programming in a ohio power facility ....

or at least, that is what you have been told.

It's good that tree-huggers don't have agendas, or at least thats what we are told.

[cim]

also - the power went out in new york (and michigan and ohio and ontario) because of bad programming in a ohio power facility ....

or at least, that is what you have been told.

The company I work for was involved in this. The cause was nothing more than human error.

[haloblack]

if you don't like it, just eat the noodles...

SOYLENT NOODLES ARE MADE FROM... er... TALL, SKINNY PEEEEEEEOPLEEEE!


Which is why they won't let Charlton Heston go to NBA games any more. He kept scaring the players.

[luvvbuzz]

fair comment boby but you have to question the status quo. the powers that be have openly come out and said, we knew there were no weapons of mass destruction in iraq. that is a huge cover up, im not going to put my faith in people who do that. by the way, i dont hug trees.

[BobV]

fair comment boby but you have to question the status quo. the powers that be have openly come out and said, we knew there were no weapons of mass destruction in iraq. that is a huge cover up, im not going to put my faith in people who do that. by the way, i dont hug trees.

I never said I don't question Bush, or at least his judgment, In fact I questoin everyone, we all have our agendas, I'm a equal opertunity skeptic.
BTW thats bobv

[Baldrick]

Please only post video related news in the latest news forum.

[fritzi93]

I'm a skeptic too, particularly of two kinds of people:

1) Those who've had an epiphany for some cause or other, and insist on fixing the world NOW. These folks are the kind that in ages past would've been prone to religious mania. Still some of those around, but now they have SO many other choices.

2)Those whose economic interests conflict with their ostensible purposes, i.e. generating contributions/revenue versus actually solving a problem. If that happened, they'd lose their cushy jobs. Honorary members of that category are news media that only care about market share.

[luvvbuzz]

nice avatar!

[MrMungus]

Not a problem, we still have nuclear fission... 8)

I read somewhere that there's a finite amount of fissile material for power generation...

I wonder if nuclear bombs could somehow be converted to generate energy (e.g., explode a nuke underground and store the energy somehow).

[BJ_M]

Nuclear Fission you have infinite amount of material -- the whole universe in fact and it's self sustaining to the most part (like your sun)


Nuclear Fusion -- you have only a finite amount of material -- though several 1000's of years worth -- not always a good thing though ...

[housepig]

Nuclear Fusion -- you have only a finite amount of material -- though several 1000's of years worth -- not always a good thing though ...

then again - if it became widespread, who knows how demand will increase?

I'm sure people in 1899 thought "we've got thousands of years' worth of oil left."

[racerxnet]

Here is a web site for all the ostrich heads still buried in the sand regarding peak oil and its implications. The data has been around for 40 yrs or better regarding the amount of extractable oil.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/index.html

The lenght of time is debatable, but the one aspect that is not is that peak oil is past and we are on the downward slope. No scientist has stated with fact that it is an infinite resource.

http://dieoff.org/

http://www.thebulletin.org/issues/2004/jf04/jf04cavallo.html

Have you prepared for the future? Will fiat currencies prevail in those times?

[MrMungus]

Nuclear Fission you have infinite amount of material -- the whole universe in fact and it's self sustaining to the most part (like your sun)

I meant in a practical sense. That is, there's only so much plutonium, uranium, etc.

[Tiny71]

The 'downward slope' is only a result of treehuggin' legislation that doesn't allow for the development of new extraction methods.

There is plenty of oil left in the world, for everyone and thier great great great great.....get the idea.....grandchildren.

And if some how I am wrong(devils advocate here)well then....I plan on using as much as I can before I die.

Sucks gas and hauls ass! :P

[alenhard]

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