Make no mistake about it !!!

[el_mondo]

Heare I am just living a quiet life here in gent (whath CNN), and suddenly the shit hits the fan. NO not like 'NY' God thank! but the helicopters are starting to really piss me off. Here I am trying to get some kip while all the hippies are getin stoned in the park 'with police support' . "NOT GOOD", it meens they are keeping the little guy( you a me quiet!!! I dont agree with what My Prime Ministar (Blair) is doing especialy when he is listening to a ******* moron farmer like George W Bush,or what ever the **** he calls him self. he was elected in the most CORRUPT of fashions (florida) and the guy has been in it for the trouble sinse the start. JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIRST WEEK OF OFFICE. BOOMBING BAGHDAD. OK '****' the wankers they probably deserved it, but in one week this IDIOT ******* pissed the whole anti american world off in one go! Im english & proud of it!!! and im not ashamed to say im white and also (somtimes proud of it). But when these so called world leaders do such stupid things for self provocation (his fathers revenge with sudam). You have to wonder if we are living in the right system. Obviously its not under a regiem like the west has seen recenly (I shouldnt have to say anything, Any woman sitting close should say it for me). But if we keep going at the East like recent years we are hitting one of the most beutifully, historically, Spiritual areas that the CIVILISED WORLD nows about. STOP and THINK America. you are beutifull people who have such good qualitys, but if you continue to REVENGE your losses, you becime the EVILL. In england and all over the wold we listend to prases of pease from your DIPLOMATS and now they are all but forggoten.god save you and me!!!

In love I pray for all those I have ever loved wheter theyv'e been black or white.

[el_mondo]

Im sorry to bring this up, but its got clode to home

[Budmo]

Obviously, you don't have a grip on reality. Stop reading British tabloids and start thinking.

[el_mondo]

Budmo
Im reclused here. Meening I don't red any thing I gust see out of my window to the riots going on here that are NOT being reported!!!

[Budmo]

No wonder you have such a narrow-minded outlook on the situation. Your solution is for us to just turn the other cheek? We've done too much of that already.

It's payback time.

[alucard2050]

i live in the U.S. i am not into war and most of the political scene but i disagree. if we don't let these people that did this know that we're not gonna put up with crap like that then we are left open for whatever anyone would want to do to us next. its like we would be saying,"OK. Come over and do whatever you want. We know your only standing up for what you believe and its ok to kill whoever you want". Then what? after their done with us who would be next on their list. it would be a neverending cycle till every last country would be dominated by terrorists. Biblicly speeking, and i would assume you believe in God by your last sentence and your statement,"God save you and me", there has to be some kind of control. Some kind of ORDER. Notice in the bible how everything God does is in a orderly fashion? if there is no control or order then there is CHAOS which God so greatly frowns on.. if you don't believe in the word of God then of course this wouldn't apply to you unless your religion is based on the same things. Piece, Love, and Happiness.

[el_mondo]

alucard2050,
Agreed, OK but we (I) have lived with the terroists that NewYork have supportrd for years (IRA) and America have done nothing but suport them (there main finance comes from newyork).What I am saying is is this bombardmant and (in there eyes TERRORISM) going to help the situation!!! I can only presume that they are a poor people whoe RESENT America for the economice dominance it has (western world included). so we have to help these people get into a western world economy. the way we are going about it is the same as when my Grandad fought in the second world war, he fought & fought & when we succeded we invested BILLIONS into Germany after the war to help them intergrate into our economy. OK Its a good thing to help each other. but helping your selves is a longer term investment. we (us & brits) are paying to bring these people into our economical system under the diguise of WAR !!! we let them in to our contrys to live as FREE people in our economys and they (or at least the ones with power in the regions) stick TWO FINGERS UP IN OUR FACES !!!

[alucard2050]

el_mondo
i have felt for a while here before 9/11 that we should begin to take care of ourselves before we take care of others. we have alot of issues even here, such as homelessness, poverty, drugs, crime. yet we send lots of cash to other countries to help them with these problems. now i just don't know. i have thought of one thing since the 11th. has our government acted like its ok for terrorism to affect other countries but as soon as a terrorist attack hits something that effects the U.S. then thats wrong. i see your point but i believe that there are just some people that just can't be pleased. i mean, these so called Muslims have misinterpeted the faith of Islam and truly believe that what they are doing is right. It's the same here when we have Cristians going to abortion clinics and killing the doctors to save unborn children. They do it because of their misinterpetations. i just know that i live my life now from day to day. i try not to judge others and i try to get along with everyone i come in contact with and respect their beliefs even if i think they are wrong. but i will not let someone who has violent tendences and has no will to change do any kind of harm to my family. i will defend them with every breath i have........

[el_mondo]

alucard2050,
RESPECT to you!!! I think your thoughts. I just hate to see corruption in your political system, because it creates havoc on the rest of the world. you are the most powerfull nation in any civilisation known to man, but you allow for a corrupt elecyion system to bring that havoc to the known world & preach diplomacy to the rest....BULLSHiT!! unless you the normall man on the street of america does anything about it!!! Look how easy it is to get madia atention (9/11). We let these wankers in our contries in the first place don't forget. what do we do, round them up? you did it after Pearl !!!

[alucard2050]

el_mondo
i am getting confused now between this post and the other you posted. HE HE HE. to be honest with you, i am 30 years old, i have never taken part in one of our elections. and i do agree with you on corruption. look at Clinton, and alot of others in the system who have their mistressess. look at the situation with Gary Condit. he had a mistress and now she's missing. i support what Bush is doing even if you don't and i can respect that. i think things would have been different now if previous presidents would have addressed issues differently. if they would have in the past you might think of Bush differently now.

BTW- thanks for the compliment,"RESPECT to you!!!"

[el_mondo]

alucard2050,
the sexuall thing doesent come into it. Im talking about how he got there a& his intensions. he is not an honnest guy & deffinately not a leader. 'HE'S A ******* COWBOY' I don't meen that with any disrespect (I like america, been there many times). but this prick cant even speek like aleader let alone be one ! he's not being honest with the american public. by the way on this note that NewYork Mayre Guliani(or somthing), he's a straight guy(as clinton was, look what he did with Arafat before this shit) and would do you country justice as a President. I salute him but not bush

[alucard2050]

what did you think of Reagan? he was a movie star. and you might be right. for all i know he could be telling stories, i guess we will will all find out when this is said and done, if ever. you are in Britain correct? what do people think over there. all this time on the news i havn't seen anything as far as reactions from people over there. we got this anthrax thing going on. are people worried at all about things like that?

[Aoshi]

el_mondo I find it strange that your writing (typing) is so awful when you speak as if you think highly of yourself. Even if you're British (or Spanish judging by your handle) you should be able to write properly. That aside, what the hell are you thinking? This is a VCD forum. Why the hell are you posting your comments about a situation far from VCD creation like this? I know I'm only supporting this stupidity by replying to your comments but I'm just pissed at all the people who use these forums to get noticed, and not for the reason it should be used for (VCD creation help).
And one more thing, Bin Ladin's been attacking the U.S. for a while now, 9/11 was just the event that finally pushed us over. Bush did the right thing in declaring war against Terrorism and now Bin Ladin's fucked!!!

[el_mondo]

alucard2050,
Im a british guy living in Gent Belgium, where the European Conference was Today (The first since the 11th attacks, and BIG protests going on all day (today)). Ive been following it closly from the start(I saw The planes 'come in' live as I was having my daily 10 cups of coffe). since that day (my girl friend was on a flight to madrid as it happend) Ive been a bit scared I admit. I live in an nice appartment here in Gent, not rich, but geting by, We have a family of muslims living 2 doors down from us, they moved in 1-2 weeks befor the attacks & yes Im a bit suspicious (wouldnt you be). the thing is that the european comunity, is a bit anti america (probably jelousy), these small but very powerfull countries like switzerland & belgium have a lot of say in what goes on here in europe. They have just told Blair to 'slow down'.This meens if he doesent, the bussiness (brussels being the center of it in europe) WILL 'slow down', this has a direct effect on america, because europe without being a 'EURO HEAD' is there best costomer. It all comes from the first impressions of bush when he was in the running for office with goor. nobody had any doubts (here) that goor wouldnot get in, and when bushes lot 'FIXED' the results in florida to go there way (his own state I believe) every one in the europen comunty (hard core euro's, that doesent include the U.K), saw america take a serious blow! but they (eurpoe) have to deal witn him, England have a long term deal with america coming form the second world war, that if one gets hit we both hit back. we stand by our word & you are our brothers! we cannot let these basstards do what they did to 'OUR' symbols of civilisation. but america have a 'glossy' overlook to what goes on in the world outside there own. the bush/goor affair was a 'RAPE' of democracy, like that we here from small african countries (no different). We had the same thing with princcess diana geting 'bumped off' in 97, every body knew it but the money & fear of questioning the system keeps us all quiet. believe me the man on the street here in europe thinks America has a bad president (one of the worst ever if not 'the'). Blair has no choice but to be besside america in this situation, but where the **** were you guys when we lost(about 5000 people up to now) in the IRA affair, no where all you guy did (indirectly im sure) is fund and harbour terrorists, now that you've tasted the blood & pain you want to get involved, these WARS are NEVER ending....

[alucard2050]

here's a little info on me. i am solid American. lived here all my life. grew up in Chicago and now live on the E Coast. i can see why you'd be a little worried about your girl. i just think that it would be more intence of worry living closer to were all the action is going on. i myself feel safe but i worry about my wife and little girl(she's 5 months now). Bush had better be carefull. on your point of the election, if it was fixed then there's no way we can turn back the clock. only thing we can do is ride it out and hope that things will be fine and see to it that election mistakes like that won't happen again. i'm outta here for tonight. i'll catch up with you later. good luck with you and your girlfriend........

[el_mondo]

alucard2050,
my dear friend I grew up in london not far from 'Guildford' where the famous 'Guildford 4' blew up a pub killing 20 people in '76' and recently (2-3 years ago) they blew the **** out of our main building (Canary Wharf, near Greenwich) I am where the action is mate! we go to work every day since the first IRA attack in the 50's knowing (like there will be a tomorow) that it is quite posiblely going to happen to us....

[d4n13l]

Sorry to butt in so late but one thing that I find utterly disgusting is when the US refused to extradite IRA terrorists to Britain, that was absolutely inexcusable. Britain/Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland all have to live with constant fear of terrorist attacks (And now the refreshed threat of Bin Laden). It just sickens me when the IRA are STILL (Despite the "efforts" made) being financed by the US, mainly NY, it is the height of hypocrisy. Yet when terrorist action takes place at home where it hurts, its a different matter. I dont mean to understate the SCALE of the attack by any means, it was the worst terrorist action in history, I just think that it will finally bring some to realise a few home truths.

el_mondo you are right about Guiliani (?), he is a stand up guy, he would probably make a better president than that corrupt muppet that currently serves. He is probably more bent than Kennedy was! I cant help but say that the US is rife with political corruption, more so than any other country in this world. Principaly as they have the most power. If power corrupts than absolute power corrupts absolutely.