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  1. Weird. I was at CompUSA and they had a JVC model (HR-S2920U) for $99, new, in the box.

    Looks like this but I think with s-video connections: http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL026794

    The other strange thing is that I can't find a mention of the 2920 online anywhere.

    Maybe they're clearance? I say that because I couldn't find an SVHS VCR at any other store (Fry's and Best Buy, though I know you can still buy them online).
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    Garbage. It will eat your tapes, not record great after a while of using it, and will break in a year. It's low-end JVC junk.

    You want good S-VHS? Look at JVC 7800-7900 and 9600-9900 series, the SR-V10U ... pretty much filters and TBC.
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    Originally Posted by mrmungus
    The other strange thing is that I can't find a mention of the 2920 online anywhere.

    Yeah. Not even at www.compusa.com
    Maybe like me, you're a bit Dyslexic?


    HR-S2902U Super VHS VCR

    Manufacturer: JVC


    Mfg Part #: HRS2902U


    Product Number: 306735


    Price: $99.95
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  4. I have one of those a however I don't use it at all since I bought my JVC SR-V10U.
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  5. I just bought the HR-S2902U at Circuit City a couple of weeks ago for $69 on clearance. They had a ton of them.
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  6. No such thing as a SVHS connection.
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  7. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Garbage. It will eat your tapes, not record great after a while of using it, and will break in a year. It's low-end JVC junk.

    You want good S-VHS? Look at JVC 7800-7900 and 9600-9900 series, the SR-V10U ... pretty much filters and TBC.
    Yeah, I know about those. We have the 7-series at work.

    Hmm...you think the quality difference between their models is that great?

    I was looking at VCR's again because my 3800U is pretty beat up.

    Also looking at DVHS VCR's -- particularly a $199 Mitsubishi I found that has Firewire out (!)
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  8. Originally Posted by racerxnet
    No such thing as a SVHS connection.
    Edited. Thanks.
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  9. The Japan Victor Company has made nothing good in video recorders since the top-loading leviathan my Dad has from the very early 1980's. Damn thing is heavier the the TV set it sits under, still works though.

    The modern JVC SVHS model he bought is a dreadful plasticky thing with one of the worst manuals ever to be transmuted into Engrish. Programming it is also a pain. I dread visiting my father as he always asks me how to program it.

    If you must have SVHS I'd look at the Panasonic models. Nice, Straight forward and better made. Otherwise step up to a standalone DVDR like the Panasonic DMR-E50 or DMR-E60.

    I R not a Panasonic fan boy, it's just their retail models (as opposed to pro gear) are pretty good recorders.
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  10. Originally Posted by Chuffster
    The Japan Victor Company has made nothing good in video recorders since the top-loading leviathan my Dad has from the very early 1980's. Damn thing is heavier the the TV set it sits under, still works though.

    The modern JVC SVHS model he bought is a dreadful plasticky thing with one of the worst manuals ever to be transmuted into Engrish. Programming it is also a pain. I dread visiting my father as he always asks me how to program it.

    If you must have SVHS I'd look at the Panasonic models. Nice, Straight forward and better made. Otherwise step up to a standalone DVDR like the Panasonic DMR-E50 or DMR-E60.

    I R not a Panasonic fan boy, it's just their retail models (as opposed to pro gear) are pretty good recorders.
    Thanks, but, the issues I'm considering is whether I should get a new VCR to replace my JVC 3800. A DVD Recorder is something I'm considering but that's in phase 2.

    Since I saw that cheap Mitsubishi (with Firewire out!), now I'm wondering if it's time to forget spending $250 just to get an s-video connection and TBC (since I'm planning on getting the external DataVideo TBC-1000 for other sources anyway) and just start recording from VHS to the computer via Firewire.

    So many choices after having had so few...
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    When I started learning to capture, I was using the camera I shot the tapes with (Panasonic AG 450) because the JVC HRS 7000 died years ago. When the camera died, I was desperate and the HR-S 2902U was the only Svhs deck I could find.

    I am browsing EBay and shopping around looking for bargains. B&H Photo had a Svhs deck with a 40 gig hard drive.
    JVC HM-HDS1 S-VHS
    This looks like a close out also but too much money to spend right now.
    "Internal 40GB Hard Disk Drive
    With its large capacity hard disk, the HM-HDS1 allows you to record up to 40 hours of programming in MPEG2 format. You can choose from 4 settings:
    SP Mode (6.4 Mega bits per second) for about 14 hours recording
    LP Mode (4.5 Mega bits per second) for about 20 hours recording
    EP Mode (3.2 Mega bits per second) for about 28 hours recording
    SEP Mode (2.2 Mega bits per second) for about 40 hours recording
    "
    I wonder if I could just transfer the MPEG2's from the machine to the computer?
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  12. Originally Posted by Leoslocks

    I wonder if I could just transfer the MPEG2's from the machine to the computer?
    IF you could somehow get access to the hard drive, I don't see why not. That's the same question I had about the TIVO. We do a lot of SVHS backups at work and I was looking for a better way and looked into TIVOs and even emailed them to ask if the files on the hard drive could be moved off the hard drive via a computer or whatnot. They said it couldn't be done. But now I wonder, why not? I know that what most of us are doing is somewhat specialized but how hard is it to give people access to the HDD on the recorder. Almost makes me want to get one and see if you could setup some kind of removable drive OR, even better, a network connection to the unit to move the files. That would be sweet.

    Yet another edit: Here's how to network your TIVO (and I think I just read something about networking being a feature on the newer models or something).

    http://www.ptvupgrade.com/networking/
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    TIVO is doable with the kit:
    The DVRchive TurboNet Bundle includes the following components and pre-configured software:

    One or two hard disk drives, depending upon the kit you select
    A Genuine TurboNet adapter, which allows you to connect your Series1 TiVo to your home network
    Patch cable, coupler, and all required mounting hardware for your particular unit
    TiVoWeb and Network Access (basic TurboNet Bundle offering)
    DVRchive Server Software
    I would love to see a removeable hard drive caddy in a player. I expect to see network connections on the newer stuff.
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    You can buy an extended warranty!, maybe it would be like 20 or 30 bucks
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  15. Originally Posted by Leoslocks
    TIVO is doable with the kit:
    The DVRchive TurboNet Bundle includes the following components and pre-configured software:

    One or two hard disk drives, depending upon the kit you select
    A Genuine TurboNet adapter, which allows you to connect your Series1 TiVo to your home network
    Patch cable, coupler, and all required mounting hardware for your particular unit
    TiVoWeb and Network Access (basic TurboNet Bundle offering)
    DVRchive Server Software
    I would love to see a removeable hard drive caddy in a player. I expect to see network connections on the newer stuff.
    Tivo actually offers a service to get images and music off your Tivo, but, not video (due to pirating concerns, I suppose).
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  16. Hi Everyone, Please be careful considering D-VHS. A D-VHS VCR cannot transfer video from D-VHS or analog VHS through firewire to a computer (except possibly to an HDTV Tuner card). The firewire output on D-VHS is not the same as the DV format firewire output on a DV camera or an analog-digital converter such as the Canopus ADVC-100. The only thing they have in common is the cable used.

    Firewire, as used in the D-VHS VCR format, records or playsback only digital HDTV (ATSC?) signals to/from either an HDTV reciever (setup box) or an integrated HDTV tuner inside a HD television.

    Please do not buy a D-VHS VCR thinking it can transfer either D-VHS or VHS video to a PC for editing and DVD creation, because they simply cannot do this.
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    Originally Posted by jgandara
    You can buy an extended warranty!, maybe it would be like 20 or 30 bucks
    This is useless once it's destroyed the tape. Who cares about the unit. It's the tape that was important. At least to me. A lot of my stuff cannot be replaced.
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  18. Originally Posted by mracer
    Hi Everyone, Please be careful considering D-VHS. A D-VHS VCR cannot transfer video from D-VHS or analog VHS through firewire to a computer (except possibly to an HDTV Tuner card). The firewire output on D-VHS is not the same as the DV format firewire output on a DV camera or an analog-digital converter such as the Canopus ADVC-100. The only thing they have in common is the cable used.

    Firewire, as used in the D-VHS VCR format, records or playsback only digital HDTV (ATSC?) signals to/from either an HDTV reciever (setup box) or an integrated HDTV tuner inside a HD television.

    Please do not buy a D-VHS VCR thinking it can transfer either D-VHS or VHS video to a PC for editing and DVD creation, because they simply cannot do this.
    So whats the advantage to having one of these fancy VCR's?
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  19. Originally Posted by mracer
    Hi Everyone, Please be careful considering D-VHS. A D-VHS VCR cannot transfer video from D-VHS or analog VHS through firewire to a computer (except possibly to an HDTV Tuner card). The firewire output on D-VHS is not the same as the DV format firewire output on a DV camera or an analog-digital converter such as the Canopus ADVC-100. The only thing they have in common is the cable used.

    Firewire, as used in the D-VHS VCR format, records or playsback only digital HDTV (ATSC?) signals to/from either an HDTV reciever (setup box) or an integrated HDTV tuner inside a HD television.

    Please do not buy a D-VHS VCR thinking it can transfer either D-VHS or VHS video to a PC for editing and DVD creation, because they simply cannot do this.
    You just saved me having to decide about that (and maybe $199). Thank god for user input via forums.

    Thanks!
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  20. Originally Posted by Bob W
    So whats the advantage to having one of these fancy VCR's?
    The reason I mentioned it is because I thought I'd be able to stick a VHS tape in it and use the Firewire output as an input to my Firewire card to capture to DV AVI.

    I think the original purpose of DVHS is to be able to record to tape digitally the same way you do with a DV camcorder (or on my Digital8 camcorder).

    This might be a dumb question but anyone know what kind of tapes they use? Special DVHS tapes or can you use regular tapes like I can in my Digital8?
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  21. Why does D-VHS exist?

    It is a way, (for a long time it was the only way for consumers) to enable recording and playback (timeshifting, etc.) of HDTV programs.

    Today D-VHS can be used to record and playback HDTV programs to/from a set-top box or integrated HD tuner in an HD Televison. There are off-air and DirecTV/off-air HDTV set-top boxes that have firewire ports for this purpose.

    To simply sum things up, D-VHS is a consumer recording and playback format for HDTV programming. Now that HDTV PVR/DVR (Tivo like) devices are on the horizon, D-VHS may lose it's purpose for most consumers, unless they want or need to archive HDTV programs.
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