How do i rip a copyprotected CD??

[Rillern]

Bought a CDtoday that`s copyprotected and i cant rip it to my harddrive, im using CDex and audiograbber. On CDex the files being copied but with alots of errors and on Audiograbber the program freezes after 2 tracks!
How do i rip it to the harddrive correctly without errors???

[ta2]

I've heard something about getting a black felt tip permanent marker, and colouring in the entire edge of the cd (the thin bit/the side(s)). The only disadvantage is that the last track is exxxxxttrrraaaaaaa looooooonnnnnnggggg.

:P

On the other hand I would say it would be best to *aquire* it from Kazaa or whatever, since you legally own it anyway. I see no problem to that. Don't get in the habit of downloading things you shouldn't tho!

Note to mods: I hope this post isn't against the rules. I wouldn't call this *warez* since it's legal, so :P.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Try Alcohol 120%, ISOBuster or record analog through your soundcard.

BTW...have you selected "Paranoia,Full" in CDex->Settings->CD Drive->Ripping Method?

[Rillern]

Alchol 120%, ISObuster, CDex, Audiograbber doesn`t work! Any other program?
I dont want to download the files because i want to have 256kbps not 128kbps as they are on Kazaa!

How do i record it analog via my soundcard? I have a Audigy 2!

[p0rnLiME]

Tried EAC? (www.exactaudiocopy.de)

[MOVIEGEEK]

"How do i record it analog via my soundcard? I have a Audigy 2!"

There are two ways:
1.connect DVD-ROM/CD-ROM to soundcard by using analog cable that came with your drive,if your Audigy 2 supports digital that is better.
2.connect a CD player to your line-in.

Then select CD player in Volume Control as the source(1) or line-in(2),use CDex,Audacity or www.cdwave.com to capture to WAV.

[Dubber]

Tried holding SHIFT key while inserting the CD?

[Rillern]

I`ve installed EAC but it wants a LAME.EXE file????

[watchmaker]

This is why I no longer purchase new music. The powers that be have taken the position that I am a criminal for wanting to listen to the music I have purchased in a manner I want to. Fark 'em.

[Rillern]

Nevermind my last post, i got it to work! But EAC doesnt work! It freezes after 3rd track

[jrbling]

maybe easy cd-da extractor? More than likely it will be flawed also but worth a shot, regardless, as long as you can hear music there will be a way to copy it, so if nothing more you can play it on your pc and use total recorder, obviously this lower quality but the music is now digital and can do whatever you want with it now.

[wonderuss]

As posted above, have you tried holding down the shift key when you insert the disc, it apparently bypasses the copy protection or so i read.

[Poppa_Meth]

holding down shift will bypass autorun and keep the disc from installing the copy protection driver if that is the type it's using. if it was already installed the first time you inserted the CD then holding down Shift won't do any good. there is a way to disable it manually but I don't remember how right off. someone had a link to it posted a while back. hopefully they'll drop in on this topic.

[Rillern]

When i put the cd in my computer it wants to install a program, but i click cancel! Ive read that the program on some copyprotected cd can mess with your computer.
I tried to hold down the shift key but it doesnt work! same problem as before.

[andydd]

Rillern.

Lame.exe is a mp3 encoder, I dont think EAC comes with any mp3 encoders so you have to provide your own external ones.

Can you play the CD on your PC ?. If so then use Total Recorder to record the tracks in real time and hey presto ..theres your copy.

Personally Ive always found 'copy-protected' CDs easy to copy on my work n home PCs, I did read that DVD-Rom drives are a lot more forgiving when it comes to reading 'errors' (ie copy-protection)

[Rillern]

Yes! the cd works fine playing in my computer! im gonna try Total Recorder and see if it works!

[Rillern]

What causes the problem to rip the cd? I mean if i can play it correctly why cant i rip it correctly?

[ta2]

As posted above, have you tried holding down the shift key when you insert the disc, it apparently bypasses the copy protection or so i read.

You are assuming this CD uses a program for copy protection. The latest audio CDs use a built in protection that cannot be bypassed. This is because the CD is pressed in a special way. The only way you can listen to it or rip it is if you are listening to it at a certain speed (I.E. No more than ~1600Kbps). If you try to read the CD any faster than that you will get read errors. If your CD ROM drive reads the CD much faster than normal, the laser will have internal reflection in the CD and the signal recieved by the recorder wont be right.

The only way to bypass this is to rip the CD in real time (I don't think any programs can do that). Or just play the CD normally and use a program like Total Recorder.

A surefire way of bypassing it is the method i said in my first post. I know this works because my friend has done it before. But I would never do this to a CD of my own (not that I buy any, lol) because I think its too risky and I wouldnt blame you if you didn't want to do this.

First, see if any of your Ripping programs can rip at 1x, if that doesnt work try Total Recorder (I don't like this, since it results in having 1 file, which in turn I have to cut up, then reencode etc).

Third choice would be Kazaa, youll just have to listen to below average tracks in that case.

Fourth choice, use the pen method...

Fifth choice:- take the CD back and show the recording industry this wont be tolerated!!!

[coyote]

Actually, holding down the shift key while the cd is being loaded, stops dll's from being loaded onto your pc which prevent copying.

You are able to also delete those dll's after the fact if you didn't hold down shift.

Here is the story from the cnn web site (as reported by reuters)

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- A Princeton graduate student said Monday that he has figured out a way to defeat new software intended to keep music CDs from being copied on a computer -- simply by pressing the Shift-key.

In a paper posted on his Web site late Monday, John Halderman said the MediaMax CD3 software developed by SunnComm Technologies Inc. could be defeated on computers running the Windows operating system by holding down the Shift key, disabling a Windows feature that automatically launches the encryption software on the disc.

Halderman said the protection could also be disabled by stopping the driver the CD installs when it is first inserted into a computer's drive.

Merely a speed bump
Computers running Linux and older versions of the Mac operating system are unable to run the software and are able to copy the disc freely, he said.

The CD in question, Anthony Hamilton's "Comin' From Where I'm From," was released by BMG's Arista label in late September. Music retailers praised the release, which BMG touted as a breakthrough in the industry's efforts to prevent music piracy.

Source and Full Story: CNN Technology

[theDruid]

The only way to bypass this is to rip the CD in real time (I don't think any programs can do that).
...

First, see if any of your Ripping programs can rip at 1x, if that doesnt work try Total Recorder (I don't like this, since it results in having 1 file, which in turn I have to cut up, then reencode etc).

AudioGrabber allows you to select the speed you rip at, so you can put it down at 1x or 2x.

It also has an option for 'analog rip', where it routes the CD through your soundcard and records. (Same thing that totalrecorder would do, but I think audiograbber automates it, and splits the tracks for you).

I've not used the latter function, but it might be a simple way of solving your problem if you already have audiograbber.

cheers,
mcdruid.

[hech54]

If you follow the directions "To The Letter" with CloneCD....you won't have any problems.

[MOVIEGEEK]

What causes the problem to rip the cd? I mean if i can play it correctly why cant i rip it correctly?

The bloodsuckers(record labels) add errors to the tracks which only CD-ROMs/DVD-ROMs detect,it messes with the defect management.

[powaking]

theDruid> Nice pic. Love Fawlty Towers. Histerical stuff.

Has anyone tried backing up the tracks using a dreamcast with a broadband adapter and that app you run on the PC? I have all of these but I have not run across a copy protected CD so I have not been able to try it but wondering if anyone else has.

I have tried it with a regular audio track and it dumps the file as raw file. Then converted to MP3 and played fine.

[Gazorgan]

There's no such thing as a copy protected CD. Turn you Autorun off.

Then call your lawyer to sue the RIAA for illegally installing software on your computer (that's how they do it by the way).

[Rillern]

Is it possible to copy the cd digitally from an external cd-player? i think i have an SPDIF input on my Audigy 2!

[Gazorgan]

Your not listening, there's no such thing, it's impossible. Stop being an RIAA toady and turn off your Auto run. The thing is either:

1) installing software on your computer so it won't play (don't let it install).
2) has a distracting track on the disk that fools a computer into jumping to the end (use a black sharpie marker on it, do a search).

[mkelley]

Another thing you might try is a wide variety of programs that translate to WAVE first (I assume you're trying to rip directly to MP3).

I couldn't get my Elvis 2nd to None CD ripped no matter what I tried -- no auto run, but no other program would handle it. Finally out of desperation I tried Record Now Max (a DVD/CD recording program) and ripped to individual WAV files (I had to do it one at a time or I got errors). This was the *only* thing that worked for me (I had tried all the suggestions people are giving you here). After they were .WAV I used CDex to convert to MP3.

The moral is that you need to be persistent, because there is usually some way of doing it. I also agree with others here that using a DVD-ROM reader is more reliable, as my CD reader could not do the above even using Record Now (I had to try three different readers before I found one that works -- this is a good reason why you want to have lots of resources available to you. If you have friends with other computers you might try them as well).

[steptoe]

If it won't play on your PC, or its obvious to you that something doesn't sound quite right while its playing, take it back to where you bought it and INSIST on your money back

Tell them that you can't play it on your PC, BUT don't say it won't copy, YOU DO have the right to take it back, as its unsuitable for the purpose you bought it for

Hence breaking consumer rights, in UK anyway, as I understand them


This is why people are saying that introducting protection systems to prevent audio CD's from being ripped DO also effect the playing of the same audio CD's on various computer systems

If audio engineers claim they can hear the protection systems, then you know it ain't right, thats their job, so if they can hear it, so can the average person

Audiophiles spend thousands getting the best equipment to get the best quality. The lengths some of these people goto is incredible. They are the ones that need persuading these 'protection' methods work

The average audio equipment available in the high street will probably ignore minor errors, their equipment will probably not

[goldenhawkofky]

have you tried clonecd yet?

[Rillern]

Any special settings for CDclone? does the copyprotection copy itself to the new disc?