.jpg files from G4 Dual won't play when rotated

[dsf]

I am new here and I hope it's ok to post this as another similar topic is posted in DVD Players; but since this is Mac-specific maybe it's a better place to post.
When I look at a slideshow of my digital pictures on my new Toshiba SD3950SU dvd player only the horizontal pictures show up on the screen! The vertical ones do not show, and there's an exclamation mark inside of a small triangle in the upper right corner where they should be. I shoot (for a living) with a Nikon D-1 (the camera makes .jpg files), and rotate and Save As jpeg's in Photoshop 7. Images are burned to a cd on my G4 Dual 1g. Again, the horizontal frames show up beautifully, but the rotated verticals do not. The dvd player manual says to rotate the images in Thumbnail view and they'll play fine, but they don't show up. Toshiba's 'help' site is useless. Can anyone help?
Thanx,
Don

[galactica]

i had the same problem
my solution was to use iPhoto to rotate them.

for some reason teh photoshop rotated ones dont work!

try that and see if it helps

[dsf]

That's unbelievable! Something P-shop 7 WON'T DO??!!
Have to get back to the office now, but can't wait to try your suggestion later.
Thanx v. much!
don

[galactica]

Im not saying thats the fix, just that it happened to solve the problem for my player

I think in this case this error is player specific, so lets just hope yours will accept the iPhoto rotated ones!!!

[dsf]

Hmmm, any idea what in the world could cause the player to not recognize the rotated images? I can't imagine, but it's darn annoying.
Thanx,
D

[pixeljammedia]

There are various versions of the JPEG spec that may be messing with your DVD player. Progressive JPEGs and embedded ICC color information can be causing your player to hiccup at the files. Try saving them as "Baselinetandard" and make sure that the embed ICC color profile checkbox is unchecked.

[galactica]

to be honest.... no
but i did recall photshop giving me some sort of message saying something about saving the jpg format...

but dont remember exactly what it said
iPhoto just rotates then burns

the iPhoto disks are read by my dvd player and all the pics work

[dsf]

Hmmm, these files WERE saved as Baseline Standard with ICC's off in P-shop 7. And, they are now rotated, so, what... shoot another batch and try a different Save of some kind? Would possibly any other approach work? Toast 6 somehow?
Don

[galactica]

you could always use iPhoto to select your pics, export to iDVD then burn them as a slide show to dvd.

[pixeljammedia]

I'm at a loss, Galactica's statement to

...use iPhoto to select your pics, export to iDVD then burn them as a slide show to dvd.

will work, but I'm stubborn and want to know what is going on. So I checked the file info using Graphic Convereter and saw a couple of possibilities. One is that Photoshop may not be saving files at Screen resolution. Looking at file info shows a ppi of 100 even if the file is saved at a setting of 72 within Photoshop. Not sure why this is so, but setting it to 72 in Graphic Converter changes it to a true 72. Also. there may be something going on with the icon/file previews. Try saving them without previews by going to Preferences>File Handling and turning off your Thumbnails and Icons. Do a Save As to resave it.

I don't have your DVD player so I haven't had that problem nor can I see if these suggestions work. Just throwing the pasta against the wall to see if it... well you know.

[dsf]

Pixel and G,
Now, I haven't tried any of these suggestions quite yet, but here's where the issue becomes a little sticky. In this case, it was this past Sat. night at a wedding I had been shooting all day.... Towards the end of the night I set up the Powerbook and do a slide show on it so every one can see all the pix I had shot throughout the day. The images are selected, then batch rotated on the card in Fotostation, and the slide show is then run through Fotostation, as well. So, at that point, there may be up to 200 - 400 files already rotated, right on the card. To go back and un-rotate, then rotate in iPhoto or do an individual Save As in Photoshop would take forever. And, while this show is running, I need to be out on the floor shooting more. The problem compact disc that I mentioned in the first place was burned from the already-rotated files. (I have rotated in P-shop, as well as Fotostation - neither will show up on the new Toshiba dvd player).
Would creating a slide show in Toast and then saving that work, do you think? What I have wanted to do was just burn the raw files - horizontals and rotated verticals - to a cd and show them on the dvd player...
Thoughts?
Thanx,
D

[pluche]

this is how I do it: all camera/scanner pictures are corrected and/or rotated in Photoshop and saved as .psd files
then for the slide show I do a batch conversion in Photoshop to jpeg's
and make the slide show with Toast 6 - prefarably on DVD-R

one extra tip: is the pictures have an embedded color profile, then convert everything to sRGB which matches better the space of a TV; net result: the colors are close what you got on your computer screen
if the pictures don't have an embedded profile then attach one (on the Mac : colormatchrgb) and convert to sRGB - on the Mac do not attach srgb directly
in Photoshop all this can be done with a small action and batch conversion
happy newyear

[MikieV]

Sorry for posting a vague reply, but I'm wondering if some of the problem with Mac Photoshop files not showing-up is related to an issue I read about, a few weeks ago - namely, that Windoze web-browsers were not able to display jpeg files saved in the Mac version of Photoshop.

If I remember correctly, a big if, it had something to do with Mac-specific information being saved with the file when saving as a jpeg.

The work-around (while waiting for Adobe to issue a fix) was to use the "Save for Web" option instead of the regular "Save as.." function to save the file as a jpeg, since the "Save as.." would include Mac-specific data.

Only fault in this logic: why are the non-rotated pictures not affected?

Mike