Why 16:9 when encoded as 4:3?

[lillara]

Hi all!
I´ve just encoded U2´s Elevation Tour from Boston that is in 4:3 format, but when I´m watching it on my standalone DVD player it´s in 16:9 format! Why?! Have I imissed something (again...)?

Again, to all of you, everyone here at this forum is great! Quick answers, great answers, helpful answers! I´ve been close to lose the interest in DVD to SVCD, but you make it easy yand fun! Thanks!
lillara

[Ripper2860]

Does it play 4:3 on your PC or is the problem only on a stand-alone DVD player?

[lillara]

When playing the disc on my PC with PowerDVD it plays with 4:3 when "keep aspect ratio" is checked, but the hole picture isn´t there (it doesnt fit on the screen). But when playing in 16:9 mode the picture is streched (so everyone gets really fat, you know...)!

[Ripper2860]

Did you use CCE or TMPGenc to make the SVCD?

[lillara]

TMPGEnc...

[Ripper2860]

I assume you are using DVD2SVCD, as well?

[lillara]

Yepp!

[Ripper2860]

And you selected 4:3 (no borders, encoded as 4:3) under the conversion tab in DVD2SVCD?

[lillara]

Yes!

[Ripper2860]

Are you in the U.S. (NTSC) or in a PAL standard location. Is the DVD PAL or NTSC ? I'm a little perpleaxed, as you say it is not displaying correctly on your PC either.

[lillara]

It´s PAL. Not US. I´m a bit confused myself...

[johns0]

If this is widescreen avi then you have to select 16:9(borders added,encoded as 4:3).Sometimes you have to select that with certain dvd`s once in awhile.

[lillara]

But I don´t wan´t any borders at all (and this option puts borders on the encoded film, doesn´t it?), I don´t have a widescreen TV!

[johns0]

If the original source is wide screen then borders have to be added or you will lose some of your viewing area on the sides that you have described.

[Ripper2860]

I'll defer to someone more expert in this area. You may try johns0 recommendation, although you do state in your 1st post that the DVD is in 4:3 format and not widescreen.

Sorry!

[lillara]

The original DVD is in 4:3, and the funny thing is that I don´t lose anything on left-right sides, but top-bottom sides when playing with "keep aspect ratio" checked in PowerDVD!...

[Ripper2860]

Just to clarify ...

1. You are in a PAL country with PAL equipment?
2. This is a PAL DVD?
3. The DVD is 4:3 aspect ratio?

Is there any possibility this could be a NTSC-based DVD?

[johns0]

what you can do is open tmpgenc after you stop dvd2svcd from going into the video encode mode and set the video arrange method to full screen(keep aspect ratio) or clip frame amd set the video cropping manually to what looks proper and start encoding with tmpgenc cause it should have the avs script load into it already.after this finishes then you can multiplex the m2v and mp2 files with mpeg tools in tmpgenc.

[johns0]

Doesnt matter cause dvd2svcd detects and chooses ntsc or pal,sometimes dvd2svcd doesnt get the screen ratio aspect right.

[lillara]

I´m shure it´s a PAL... Isn´t this strange?!

[johns0]

Not strange,just manually change the settings like i described.