vcd or svcd?

[montburnsy]

I want to try doing some svcd clips, just trailers off dvd movies which I've done in vcd mode, but want better quality. My Q is, if I do a movie as svcd, its way too big for cd-r's.(need 3-4 instead of 2-3) Is there a way of mucking about with the templates in TMPGEnc to change to in-between vcd-svcd quality and come up with a comprimised template?
Thnx.

[Ejoc]

Yea, change its bitrate. Select the 2 pass VBR, and lower the bit rate. I can fit most movies on 2 SVCDs/CVDs if they are 2 hours long, I tend to goto 3, but I've never had to do 4 SVCDs, your bitrates must be maxed.

[Vejita-sama]

There are several things to keep in mind for the project that you are outlining. First VCD and SVCD are a defined standard (see the what is the left). Anything else you're making an xVCD or xSVCD. Now most players will have no trouble playing these non-standard discs.

xVCD does NOT mean better than VCD, it just means non-standard.

Video quaility is a combination of resolution and bitrate.

File size is a combination of source runtime and bitrate.

As you lower the bitrate to fit more movie per 80min CDR you also lower the quaility. At the low bitrates necessary to get 50~60min per disc (which is about as much as I'd recommend for good quaility, but a lot of people go longer) you really should think about using CVD resolution of 352x480.

At the same bitrate and resolution MPEG1 looks the same as MPEG2. But you can encode MPEG1 faster and for free with TMPGenc. Further, more standalones support (x)VCDs than (x)SVCDs. So unless you need to use MPEG2 (selectable subs, interlaced source, etc). You might want to make xVCDs.

As mentioned use a bitrate calculator to find the needed bitrate for each disc then I recommend:

Video - MPEG1 encode 352x480
Audio - MP2 @ 128~192kbit/s (128kbit/s audio is fine for me)
2pass VBR: min = 300, ave = from calculator, max = 2520

Lowering the audio allows for more bitrate to be used for the video. I've used bitrates as low as 1500kbit/s and gotten good results (DVD rip encoded w/ CCE and 3pass VBR).

[montburnsy]

First of all, thnx guy's for the info.
Secondly, did you mean change the bitrate "in the template, or in TMPGEnc itself with the options"?
3rdly, Vejita, if you have the full ver. of TMPGEnc, you are able to encode mpeg1/mpeg2 dvd etc, all for free! No 14day trial period!

"As mentioned use a bitrate calculator to find the needed bitrate for each
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disc then I recommend:"
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You also quoted this comment, which the underlined, I don't understand why? Maybe its easier than trial'n'error?

Anyway, thnx again.

[Ejoc]

Secondly, did you mean change the bitrate "in the template, or in TMPGEnc itself with the options"?

Same difference, If you use a wizard template do it there, if you dont using the settings button. You're accessing the same thing 2 different ways.

Id use 300min/2000+avg/2520max just adjust the avg some the file size is what you want, I make 800MB MPEGS to put on my 700MB CD-Rs.

[tenders]

you could try this: https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/119210.php