Is there a card that capture in mpeg and also add a logo?

[nicolasd]

I was wondering if there is a card that can not only capture directly into mpeg but also add a logo during the capture?

[nicolasd]

Well anyone knows? Or perhaps you might know another forum where I could ask this same question?

[negon]

As for adding a logo DURING capture i'm not sure, but I know if you get a Dazzle Digital video creator USB it captures it and then the software can add a logo and such.

[nicolasd]

As for adding a logo DURING capture i'm not sure, but I know if you get a Dazzle Digital video creator USB it captures it and then the software can add a logo and such.

yes actually I want it added during capture...and in mpeg directly...

[fravel]

If you are planning to make only VCDs, then the PV231 can put the logo while recording.

[nicolasd]

If you are planning to make only VCDs, then the PV231 can put the logo while recording.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "VCDs", I guess I'm still a newbie in this field I record the movie directly in mpeg-1 (320x240) and use it on my PC only.

[nicolasd]

Well anyone?

[Gazorgan]

Yes it can be done. There is no 'good' reason to do it.

Normally you capture in huffyuv or mjpeg, edit out commercials, mask, resize, filter and encode. You can add a watermark or logo between filter and encode. Actually, Edit/Resize/Filter/Logo is all one step, then frameserve it to VCD if you want.

Capturing directly to MPEG is bad, as you won't be able to edit out commercials and still have sound :P Capturing directly to MPEG is not the way to become a bittorrent god

[nicolasd]

Yes it can be done. There is no 'good' reason to do it.

Normally you capture in huffyuv or mjpeg, edit out commercials, mask, resize, filter and encode. You can add a watermark or logo between filter and encode. Actually, Edit/Resize/Filter/Logo is all one step, then frameserve it to VCD if you want.

Capturing directly to MPEG is bad, as you won't be able to edit out commercials and still have sound :P Capturing directly to MPEG is not the way to become a bittorrent god

Actually I do have to capture directly in MPEG to save time. I know how to add a logo to a mpeg or avi file. I also know how to capture in avi and add a logo at the same time. But all that does not really matter What I want to do is capture directly to mpeg and add a logo while capturing to *save precious time* .

[SLICK RICK]

Is saving time really that important to you?

SLICK RICK

[nicolasd]

Is saving time really that important to you?

SLICK RICK

It's my priority. I'm not asking how to put a logo on a movie file, I already know that All I want to know is if there is any card in this world that can allow me to capture directly in mpeg and also add a logo at the same time. The price of the card does not matter to me as long as it does what I'm looking for

[pixel]

Why do you want to add a logo anyway???

Most people don't want to have videos because they are their own and they do not plan on giving them to anyone else, so don't want to wreck them. So is there a reason for wanting a logo?

And it is better to encode after capturing in AVI, plus it is easier to add logos/effects this way. I capture directly to MPEG2 because I am just transferring most of my VHS recordings to DVD at 352x288 or 352x576 mainly because VHS isn't brilliant quality to start with but my PC can cope.

If you filled in your system specs we could help you out on wether or not we think your system specs are really good enough to produce quality VCD captures.

[presto]

Capturing directly to MPEG is bad, as you won't be able to edit out commercials and still have sound

Wrong. I capture to mpg all the time and snip out commercial and of course I have sound. I use Tmpgenc DVD Author but Ulead Video Studio and several other programs will do it to.

Is saving time really that important to you?

Isn't saving time important to you? Do you clean your floor with toothbrush or mow your lawn one blade at a time? If you want to spend days, weeks, whatever on each video in order to get the best quality that's great. Many of us want to get hundreds of hours of home video onto DVD. If I were to capture to avi, it would take 10 or 20 times as long and much of it would never get done. Mpeg capture has come a long way. Any one who says you can't get great quality or that you can't edit mpeg doesn't know what they are talking about.

[nicolasd]

Why do you want to add a logo anyway???

Most people don't want to have videos because they are their own and they do not plan on giving them to anyone else, so don't want to wreck them. So is there a reason for wanting a logo?

And it is better to encode after capturing in AVI, plus it is easier to add logos/effects this way. I capture directly to MPEG2 because I am just transferring most of my VHS recordings to DVD at 352x288 or 352x576 mainly because VHS isn't brilliant quality to start with but my PC can cope.

If you filled in your system specs we could help you out on wether or not we think your system specs are really good enough to produce quality VCD captures.

Please read my previous posts As I said, I already know how to add a logo to a movie file..my system is also very powerfull...got over 3 gigs of mhz, 2 gigs of ram, scsi drives etc...I'm only looking for capture card that can capture directly in mpeg AND add a logo at the same time...

[nicolasd]

Capturing directly to MPEG is bad, as you won't be able to edit out commercials and still have sound

Wrong. I capture to mpg all the time and snip out commercial and of course I have sound. I use Tmpgenc DVD Author but Ulead Video Studio and several other programs will do it to.

Is saving time really that important to you?

Isn't saving time important to you? Do you clean your floor with toothbrush or mow your lawn one blade at a time? If you want to spend days, weeks, whatever on each video in order to get the best quality that's great. Many of us want to get hundreds of hours of home video onto DVD. If I were to capture to avi, it would take 10 or 20 times as long and much of it would never get done. Mpeg capture has come a long way. Any one who says you can't get great quality or that you can't edit mpeg doesn't know what they are talking about.

Exactly what I have been trying to explain thanks I'm very busy and got a capture lots of movies. I don't have time to waste with AVI files although I know they are better quality etc...

[pixel]

OK nicolasd, I guess your system is more than capable of doing real-time mpeg1 encoding.

I think the answer to your question is basically no. I think someone said it is possible to buy a capture card with a logo function, but you will be limited to using that logo forever.

The only real way to add logos is to re-encode AVI, where you can add your own logos.

[Cornucopia]

You guys aren't thinking outside of the box. (Actually, you should be thinking about the box...)

Check out internet video stores like B&H photo and find a "logo inserter" box. Works like this...

|Video Source| ---> |Logo Inserter Box| ----> |Capture Card|

Some will give you option of creating your own logo, others won't.

Now wasn't that easy?

Scott

[fravel]

nicolasd:
VCD is a VideoCD (mpeg1, 320x240, 41000 Khz, etc.). For more info, look to your left at the top under the "What Is" heading.
In your first post you didn't state what kind of mpeg you want add a logo to. And I told you that if it's a VCD (mpeg1) you can do it with the PV231 card.
Now, what kind of mpeg are you talking about, mpeg1 or mpeg2?

[nicolasd]

nicolasd:
VCD is a VideoCD (mpeg1, 320x240, 41000 Khz, etc.). For more info, look to your left at the top under the "What Is" heading.
In your first post you didn't state what kind of mpeg you want add a logo to. And I told you that if it's a VCD (mpeg1) you can do it with the PV231 card.
Now, what kind of mpeg are you talking about, mpeg1 or mpeg2?

Mpeg1....

have you tried it? how is the quality?

[nicolasd]

You guys aren't thinking outside of the box. (Actually, you should be thinking about the box...)

Check out internet video stores like B&H photo and find a "logo inserter" box. Works like this...

|Video Source| ---> |Logo Inserter Box| ----> |Capture Card|

Some will give you option of creating your own logo, others won't.

Now wasn't that easy?

Scott

would this thing work with an ATI AIW for instance?

[lordsmurf]

Capturing directly to MPEG is bad, as you won't be able to edit out commercials and still have sound

Not true. You can use TMPGENC or WOMBLE MPEG2VCR.

In fact, I just finished writing the MPEG splicing guides on lordsmurf.com, though I've not uploaded it yet. Trying to finish everything for the next upload.

Check out internet video stores like B&H photo and find a "logo inserter" box.

Got a direct link ? I don't see anything. I tried looking up "logo insertion", "logo insert", "logo video" and even "logo inserter", and B&H shows no results.

This looked interesting:
http://avs.kddlabs.co.jp/mpeg/mpro12/g/MPRO1.2panf-E.pdf

As does this:
http://www.keywesttechnology.com/downloads/Manuals/LogoStar%20Manual.pdf

However, the Keywest LogoSTAR Channel ID Insertion System (Part #KEYW-P001003A) costs $1,945

Hope you have some spare cash. Doesn't look cheap.

[nicolasd]

You guys aren't thinking outside of the box. (Actually, you should be thinking about the box...)

Check out internet video stores like B&H photo and find a "logo inserter" box. Works like this...

|Video Source| ---> |Logo Inserter Box| ----> |Capture Card|

Some will give you option of creating your own logo, others won't.

Now wasn't that easy?

Scott

just went to B&H photo and here are the results

"Search Results
Your search for " logo inserter " returned 0 item(s). "

Do you have any idea where I can find a logo inserter?

[fravel]

nicolasd,
PV231 is the best mpeg-1 capture card I've used. You can get more info on it at this site:

http://steve.kittelsen.com/pv231/

You can also download some register fixes for the card there. They make it work better.
Good Luck!

[nicolasd]

nicolasd,
PV231 is the best mpeg-1 capture card I've used. You can get more info on it at this site:

http://steve.kittelsen.com/pv231/

You can also download some register fixes for the card there. They make it work better.
Good Luck!

are you sure you can capture in 320x240 with this card and also add a logo?

On this site it's mentionned that it only capture in 352x240 ...and I don't see any reference to adding a logo

[nicolasd]

I searched for "logo inserter" but only found old crappy sites...do you guys know any serious company that sell up to date logo inserters?

[lordsmurf]

Just for clarification, 320x240 or even 352x240 is pretty poor resolution. I'm sure some people are happy with such low quality, mainly VCD enthusiasts, but that's a minority now with DVD on the rise. I'd be sure a capture card has AT LEAST 352x480 interlaced MPEG-2 capability. I skipped the entire VCD era because I needed something that looked as good as S-VHS, which is DVD.

At that resolution, the logo is gonna be pretty muddy or flawed quality-wise in some way.

The PV-231 is really old. I'd call that a last-ditch alternative at best.

I'm sure something exists between the old PV-231 and that $2,000 LogoStar device, but it'll be rare, so good luck on your serach. Post results if you find something good.

I wouldn't mind having something like that myself, for use on DVD logo insertion, as I capture to MPEG-2 directly when not editing, just converting. Editing just to add a logo takes too much time, and just isn't worth it.

[presto]

oops I posted something here that was meant for a different thread so I moved it.

[fravel]

nicolasd,
Yes, it can capture 320x240, but VCD is 352x240. If you want to make VCD's you must use 352x240. It was my error to write 320x240 as VCD size. I'm no longer using this card or doing VCD because I moved to DVD.
Yes, it can add a logo, even if it doesn't say at the Skittelsen's site. He is one of the most knowledgeable person on this card and some others and you may PM him. He is a member of this forum. Do a search on this forum for "PV231" and "logo". You'll find several posts regarding this matter.

[mahinda]

The PV231 capture card is a very good quality video capture card. You can capture in mpeg and also add your own logo to it .
Fravel says truth. Believe him. I also got advise from fravel . Now I can add my own Logo during the capture. Thanks again to Fravel for the great tutorial which help me to add my own Logo during the capture.

Don’t believe lordsmurf ……..

[pixel]

Don’t believe lordsmurf ……..

Why not? Technology moves on quickly, especially nowadays. I think Lordsmurf is just trying to say that if someone was looking for a capture card, they should maybe try one of the newer ones on the market instead of going for an older card.