How many of you are moving to DVD burners from CD Burners?

[hiflyact]

Just out of curiousity, are any of you actually moving all your video material from VCD/SVCD to DVD-R's with a DVD burner? Seems like it would be a lot of work, plus with CD's so cheap it doesn't justify it right now. I'd expect CD's to get even cheaper as the price of DVD blank media continues to drop.

[poopyhead]

there's no way i'm moving any of my SVCD collection to DVDs...that means i've basically wasted all those CD-Rs...plus, it would take a very long time to do so

i think it's easier to just get a multi-disc DVD player instead....

i basically have stopped encoding to SVCDs and switched over to DVD-Rs.

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also, CD burners are getting cheaper by the minute...i've seen deals were YOU MAKE MONEY after rebates...

i got my 32x CD-RW half a year ago for $20....they're actually cheaper than CD-ROMs now...

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you're right about CD-R media...when i first started burning.... ~ 5 - 6 years ago on my $400 HP external 2X burner, cheapo, generic, silver-topped media was $1, and i thought that was a good deal. now, even branded CD-R shouldn't be more than $0.10/each after rebates.

[g_shocker182]

Theres no point in doing so because the quality is already lost. That is, unless you are putting multiple (VCD) movies onto one DVD.

[pbhalerao]

I am going to replace my CD-RW drive with a DVD±RW drive. But I cannot imagine that I will be converting my VCD's to DVD's. What's the point any way? Waste of the CD-R's, no gain in quality, tons of time and effort ... not worth at all.

For new stuff, I will switch to DVD±R's.

[poopyhead]

I am going to replace my CD-RW drive with a DVD±RW drive.

if i were you, i would still keep the CD-RW drive. for reading/burning CDs, CD-RW still the best way to go..because you can punish/abuse them cuz they're only $20. can't quite to that with $100+ DVD-RW drive.

[pbhalerao]

I am going to replace my CD-RW drive with a DVD±RW drive.

if i were you, i would still keep the CD-RW drive. for reading/burning CDs, CD-RW still the best way to go..because you can punish/abuse them cuz they're only $20. can't quite to that with $100+ DVD-RW drive.

Point taken. But then,

1. I have a DVD-ROM that I will need for DVD rips. Can't afford to do that on a DVD writer.
2. If I don't get rid of the CD-RW then my secondary IDE channel is full. I have a slave option open on the Primary IDE channel. Do I put my DVD±RW there?

[poopyhead]

1. I have a DVD-ROM that I will need for DVD rips. Can't afford to do that on a DVD writer.
2. If I don't get rid of the CD-RW then my secondary IDE channel is full. I have a slave option open on the Primary IDE channel. Do I put my DVD±RW there?

well....for the same reason as keeping your DVD-ROM, you should keep the CD-RW to burn CD-Rs...to minimize wear-and-tear on your DVD burner to just burning DVDs and nothing else.

if you have enough bays in your case, why not... i usually have 5-6 devices in my comps (w/ the help of ATA133 controller cards)...can't get enough of those drives :P

what you can do is put the DVD burner as secondary master and DVD-ROM as secondary slave. then your hdd is your primary master and your CD burner is your primary slave.

[RabidDog]

bad idea to put any optical drive on the same channel as a hard disk slows everything right down best to get an extra channel card and stick it on their. I wont be xferring any of my svcd movies to dvdr and I am holding out on buying a dvd burner till a ) the speeds go up b) the media cost comes down c) the format wars are over. I might even skip dvd altogether and just go for a 250gb tivo. :P

[poopyhead]

bad idea to put any optical drive on the same channel as a hard disk slows everything right down

slows what down?? unless the CD-RWs being used...don't think anything will slow down.

i doubt his hdd will even be able to reach the theoretical max of ATA66...so, don't think there will be any noticeable slowdown

i suggested the CD-RW as primary slave because putting either of the DVD drives in primary IDE will be worse.

[Craig Tucker]

Hard Disk and ATAPI Device Channel Sharing: There are several reasons why optical drives (or other ATAPI devices) should not be shared on the same channel as a fast hard disk. ATAPI allows the use of the same physical channels as IDE/ATA, but it is not the same protocol; ATAPI uses a much more complicated command structure. Opticals are also generally much slower devices than hard disks, so they can slow a hard disk down when sharing a channel. Finally, some ATAPI devices cannot deal with DMA bus mastering drivers, and will cause a problem if you try to enable bus mastering for a hard disk on a channel they are using.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confPerformance-c.html

[poopyhead]

well....

in that case, then the primary slave will be basically wasted if all the "other" devices are optical

3 optical and 1 hdd....hrm.... unless the guy shells out $$ for a controller card, the best he can do is put optical on primary IDE.

i've had to do that b4 when i didn't have any controller cards and unless you have super fast hdd....dunno if the performance quality will be that noticeable...

[Craig Tucker]

well....

in that case, then the primary slave will be basically wasted if all the "other" devices are optical

Correct, unless you are prepared to accept the reducion in performance. But if you seriously into video you should really have at least 2 hard drives.

3 optical and 1 hdd....hrm.... unless the guy shells out $$ for a controller card, the best he can do is put optical on primary IDE.

Controller cards are very cheap, and most modern motherboards these days have 4 IDE channels (Usually 2 regular, 2 RAID), Enough for 8 IDE devices.

[hoyboy]

Just moved from cd-r to dvd-r with a pioneer A06. I will be keeping my cd burner though, as I have just spent the equal of 7 full days wages on it, so it is going to get looked after like nothing else.

[freak_in_cage_10k]

i will (hay) get a DVD-RW when they are:

about £150 (i bought my 24x burner for about 125) and the media is about 40p each (most movies are on 2 cdrs, costsing about 20p each!)

until then im happy with SVCDs, and changing the cd doesn;t bother me

[poopyhead]

as I have just spent the equal of 7 full days wages on it, so it is going to get looked after like nothing else.

wow...either

1) burner's really expensive

or

2) your wage is low :P

[hoyboy]

Both

[gmatov]

Craig,

Your link is a little misleading, not your part, but the gist of the site.
True, the HDD will only transfer TO the CD-R,at the rate that the CD-R's buffer can handle. If it's a 133 drive, it will fill the buffer in an instant. That is, of course, if the board's Bios will allow the transfer, without an ATA/ATAPI conflict.. The quoted matter says this..

In the inverse, the CD-R cannot slow the ATA133 drive down, as it may take a second to fill the HDD's buffer ( actually the buffer probably will never come into play ), but a "split" second to write to HDD.

So, in the instance we're discussing here, or you are discussing, there is no problem with putting the CD-R on the Primary Slave.

I personally, don't have any set up this way, as I've bought quite a few drives with ATA cards included, so haven't had to, as well as buying the cards separately. ( Hell, I wouldn't have 5 HDDs and 2 opticals in the same machine otherwise, would I? )

If it were my machine, I would set it up as poopyhead suggested at first, and, if I bought a second HDD, would put it on an ATA card, rip to it, converter on the Primary Master, output back to the new drive, full transfer rate drive to drive. Although it would never get up to needing full burst, nor sustained, transfer rate

Ah, well, my thoughts.

Cheers,

George

[Craig Tucker]

Opticals are also generally much slower devices than hard disks, so they can slow a hard disk down when sharing a channel

[Will Hay]

I bought a dvd-r/ram burner back in November and along with my MiniDV Camcorder is the best investment I made.
Previously I was using a VHS-C camcorder and converting to SVCD ~ the quality jump is imense.
Considering my subject matter (my first child, filmed every month for around fifteen to twenty minutes) it's vital I get top quality.
Those memories are impossible to replace.
Will

[energy80s]

I have just recently bought a Teac version of the Pioneer 105 DVD drive. I still have my CD Writer, but I got rid of my DVD ROM Drive as I no longer need it - I know that DVD Burners only rip at x2, but I don't mind as I don't copy that many DVD's, preferring to burn my own captured material.

I have now moved from VCD to CVD to 1/2 DVD to Full DVD in just under 2 years, and although I don't intend transferring my VCD encodes to DVDR discs, I will do it with CVD and 1/2 DVD encodes as it will get rid of a lot of CDR discs (up to 6 for a movie 12 discs for a TV series!) and give my a bit of shelf space back!!

[pixel]

Best investment I ever made going to a DVD burner, capacity wise and price wise.

If you think about it:

DVD: 4700MB, £1
CD: 703MB, 20p. Roughly 6 (well 6 and a half) CD's can fit on a DVD which means : £1.20

so DVD media is cheaper (data storage wise).

I recently managed to put the contents of around 50 CDR's on to about 3 DVD's which means no more frantically searching for CDR's.